? About Emissions Canister on R1200S

[Reformed Squid]

Please don't call Al Gore on me, but am I going to run into engine performance issues if I remove the emissions canister that blocks access to the front shock? Making adjustments would be so much easier if it were removed. If anyone has removed it, could you let me know which vacuum lines need to be plugged/vented to atmosphere or re-routed so as not to freak out the ECU. Thanks.

[cageyar]

F**k Al Gore.
Let's help a brother out-did you search the forum for any posts on the subject?
I know there are numerous ones about removing the R1100S canister but I don't recall any on the R12S.

[tomn]

IIRC there is one hose from tank to a valve with electrical connect, that's a vent, anything down stream can be removed for adjusting the shock. I left the vent hose open, the electrical valve wired but nothing plugged,

[shreddr]

i pulled the solenoid as well, its all pretty straight forward if you look it over. I ended up using the tubing connector at the headstock and one of the longer hose pieces to complete the routing. 10 goes to the left throttle body 11 is the overflow hose routed to the swingarm and 12/13/14 goes to the tank fill neck overflow, Hook 12 to 11, and hook the solenoid end of 10 to the other throttle body. everything else you can take off, simple

[cageyar]

What about eliminating 10 all together and just getting another fitting cover like on the right throttle body?

[shreddr]

Originally Posted by cageyar

What about eliminating 10 all together and just getting another fitting cover like on the right throttle body?

you can do that too, but i didn't have the plugs, so i just connected the 2 intake ports with the one piece of tubing.

[Reformed Squid]

Just the info I needed. Shreddr, thanks for the diagram...pictures always help mechanically challenged person such as myself.

[Rick Lee]

Is there any change in performance by doing this or is it strictly for better access to the front shock?

[markjenn]

Rather than Tab A into Slot A instructions, just reason out what you're doing. You want to vent the tank to atmosphere rather than the canister, and you want to block off the intake spigots so they're not getting fumes from the canister. Everything else (canister, solenoid valve, hoses, etc.) goes bye-bye.

- Mark

[shreddr]

Originally Posted by markjenn

Rather than Tab A into Slot A instructions, just reason out what you're doing. You want to vent the tank to atmosphere rather than the canister, and you want to block off the intake spigots so they're not getting fumes from the canister. Everything else (canister, solenoid valve, hoses, etc.) goes bye-bye.

- Mark

thats what i did the first time, the Tab A into Slot B instruction set was for those who didn't want to spend the time to figure out where the tubes all came from and went to

[cageyar]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

Is there any change in performance by doing this or is it strictly for better access to the front shock?

I'm doing it strictly to stick to Al F***ing Gore and the rest of his Tax-In-Trade carbon credit cabal. One day, people will figure out how all his promotion of "global warming" and end of the world scenarios are designed soley to enrichen him and his investors. A truer piece of cr*p there never existed.
How's that for self-delusion!

This is Al F***ing Gore:
This is Al F***ing Gore in my dreams:

[Rick Lee]

I just pour all vehicle fluids down my drain and litter every chance I get. But I do wonder about the perf. benefits of removing my canister. I'm already running with no cat.

[cageyar]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

I just pour all vehicle fluids down my drain and litter every chance I get. But I do wonder about the perf. benefits of removing my canister. I'm already running with no cat.

The canister is a meaningless contrivance to collect fuel vapors from the tank. More unburned hydro-carbons are released when you move the fuel nozzle from the pump to your tank with each filling and back then are captured by the canister.
Remove at will and rejoice in sticking it to Al.

[geothepencil]

Pelican Parts: Outlaw Biker Forum. Next thing you know the History Channel will interviewing everybody.

geo

[tm1100s]

Hey. Give algore credit for picking a scam that could require 500-1000 years to validate or invalidate.

We'll never know.

[markjenn]

Originally Posted by cageyar

More unburned hydro-carbons are released when you move the fuel nozzle from the pump to your tank with each filling and back then are captured by the canister.

That's not really true, but don't let that get in the way of your story.

- Mark

[Rixster]

Originally Posted by cageyar

I'm doing it strictly to stick to Al F***ing Gore and the rest of his Tax-In-Trade carbon credit cabal. One day, people will figure out how all his promotion of "global warming" and end of the world scenarios are designed soley to enrichen him and his investors. A truer piece of cr*p there never existed.
How's that for self-delusion!

This is Al F***ing Gore:
This is Al F***ing Gore in my dreams:

I'm with you

[cageyar]

Originally Posted by markjenn

That's not really true, but don't let that get in the way of your story.

- Mark

That data for the canister's ability to trap unburned hydro-carbons that I have worked with at Honda, Nissan and Hyundai shows that the volume of fuel in a car tank and it's related surface area emits a fair amount of unburned HC. The data also showed that the smaller the tank, the lower the amount of unburned hydro-carbons released. By the time you get to a motorcycle tank with 4-5 gallons, the amount would be even less, but still present, although I've not viewed any data on that point. In many states, they don't use the vapor collecting fuel nozzels that we have here in NJ-I don't know about WA. But in states like PA that still use unrestricted nozzles, the release of those unburned HC is visible but I've never seen data that measures them. If you have any data to support that the surface area of 5 gallons of fuel produces more unburned HC than 4-5 minutes of unrestricted fueling, I'd be interested in seeing it, unless you're just drinking Al's koolaid (no offense).
By the way, have you ever seen the Al F***ing Gore Doomsday clock-he said about 3 1/2 years ago that the world had ten years before the use of fossil fuels would result in irreversable damage that would threaten the existence of the planet-6 1/2 years to go :

http://motls.blogspot.com/2004/10/al-gores-doomsday-countdown.html

[2wheelmike]

Hey Shreddr,
How much bodywork did you remove to re-plumb? Thanks-

[shreddr]

Originally Posted by 2wheelmike

Hey Shreddr,
How much bodywork did you remove to re-plumb? Thanks-

i think i did it without pulling any of the body panels, but if you pull the side panles and tank center strip it would be very easy to get to everything.