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Charlie V 11-18-2010 08:08 PM

Winter Projects
 
What are your plans??

Mine are:

1. new shocks front and rear - Bilstein sports.
2. replace the front suspension bushings and mono balls - Elephant Racing products.
3. picked up a rebuilt steering rack that I will put in while the front suspension is apart.
4. spacers for rear wheels - lower priority.
5. lower the car just a little.
6. check the clutch. Got some 50,000 kms on the clutch and it has a really soft pedal feel starting this summer. I adjusted it to spec, but no change in feel (cable, fork, bearings all new when clutch replaced). I will check the return spring and pedal cluster this winter. If I find nothing, I will run it until she slips.
5. usual maintenance stuff - oil, valve adjust, check brakes and flush fluid, adjust front wheel bearings, check all under carriage bolts for tightness and inspect tub for possible cracks.
6. if I have time and the weather is OK, power wash the underside of the vehicle.

And, home reno projects - foyer, dining room and living room this winter.

Hmmmm......I can honestly say I prefer getting P-car grease under my nails!!

haycait911 11-19-2010 12:55 AM

- paint blue car silver.
- build 2.4 for yellow car
- tune 3.0 in blue/silver car

maybe.....
- paint red car green
- build 3.2 for blue/silver car -put 3.0 in yellow car- 2.4 into red/green car

seems like a short list ;)

billybek 11-19-2010 04:18 AM

I like the colour of the blue car now. There is something about it that is just right...
I also really like silver on a 911, what paint are you using for this? Factory colour?

I have lots to do, but too little time.

Gunter 11-19-2010 12:31 PM

I did everything necessary that needed doing before the cold sets in, I hope. :confused:

Winter Project:

My annual trip to Waikiki for an open-air gathering of sun-worshippers and Atheists.
On Sunday Mornings, some self-appointed Prophets have somehow obtained permission to put up loudspeakers near the beach so the non-believers have to endure an open-air performance of local bible-freaks spouting nonsense about the afterlife, hell and damnation for the sinners. While these Gurus cite nebulous scriptures and claiming a direct link to fictitious Gods and Saviors, several volleyball clubs are active on the beach and bring their own music to purposely drown out the BS from the soul-savers.

It’s funny and we laugh a lot. :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1290196732.jpg

Kevin Weidlich 11-19-2010 01:36 PM

First finish house reno's so I can sell the house next year!
As for the car.
1) Front hood and rear deck lid shocks
2) Front bumper turbo S ducts
3) Clear turn signal markers
4) Muffler bypass pipes
5) Pollen filters

and if I am feeling adventurous....

6) Spark plugs
7) Fuel and air filters
8) V-belts
9) Front diff. and transmission oil change (a lift would help)
Might wait till spring for these to get some help from fellow Pelicans:).

Charlie V 11-19-2010 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunter (Post 5682386)
My annual trip to Waikiki for an open-air gathering of sun-worshippers and Atheists.
On Sunday Mornings, some self-appointed Prophets have somehow obtained permission to put up loudspeakers near the beach so the non-believers have to endure an open-air performance of local bible-freaks spouting nonsense about the afterlife, hell and damnation for the sinners. While these Gurus cite nebulous scriptures and claiming a direct link to fictitious Gods and Saviors, several volleyball clubs are active on the beach and bring their own music to purposely drown out the BS from the soul-savers.

Holy s h ! t Gunter, you seem a little stressed this afternoon. Is there something you need to get off your chest?? :eek:

Gunter 11-20-2010 07:52 AM

I was holding back, Charlie, because I was in a good mood. :D

The Assembly of the Sacred Palm also sells coconuts and pineapples blessed with clorinated holy water. Let me know if you want one.

That is a long list of projects, Charlie, especially for the suspension. A lot of work, BTDT.
Keep in mind that new gas shocks tend to push the height up about 3/4" in the rear without any other adjustment. There is a little trick to installing. Keep them compressed until in situ and the lower bolt is in.
I'd check and make sure there is lots of Moly grease in the rebuilt S. Rack.
After everything is installed, where are you planning to go for alignment and cornerbalance?

Gunter 11-20-2010 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Weidlich (Post 5682495)
First finish house reno's so I can sell the house next year!
As for the car.
1) Front hood and rear deck lid shocks
2) Front bumper turbo S ducts
3) Clear turn signal markers
4) Muffler bypass pipes
5) Pollen filters

and if I am feeling adventurous....

6) Spark plugs
7) Fuel and air filters
8) V-belts
9) Front diff. and transmission oil change (a lift would help)
Might wait till spring for these to get some help from fellow Pelicans:).

Kevin:
I found it relatively easy to use a hand pump with a 1/2"? nylon line that came with it to get new Mobil 1 Delvac 75W90 into the G50.

Engine oil and filters: Impossible to do without the correct filter wrench.

Plugs are a real adventure. :rolleyes:

Where are you getting the Pollen filters from?

Charlie V 11-20-2010 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunter (Post 5683630)
Keep in mind that new gas shocks tend to push the height up about 3/4" in the rear without any other adjustment.

where are you planning to go for alignment and cornerbalance?

I understand new shocks tend to bring the car up a little.

I have talked Al into assisting (requires food and beer) with ride height, string alignment and corner balance. I will go to a local shop in Langley for the final alignment. Alignment will be to Anderson recommended specs.

Gunter 11-20-2010 09:54 AM

That's a lot of work for just Food and Beer. :D

Tried a few different settings until I was happy with height etc. Took a few years.

What does Anderson recommend for:
Camber front & rear?
Toe front & rear?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1290275535.jpg

Traveller 11-20-2010 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie V (Post 5681330)
What are your plans??

Nothing major, but to name a few...
  • Disassemble, clean and inspect distributor and replace caps and rotors if necessary.
  • Install new distributor drive belt.
  • install new ignition wires that I will be making up using Beru parts.
  • Install new clutch master cylinder, clean pedal cluster and lubricate as necessary.
  • Install new clutch slave cylinder and hydraulic hose.
  • Flush brake and clutch fluid.
  • Replace fuel filter.
  • Perform some basic repairs to my motorcycles.

Charlie V 11-20-2010 02:35 PM

Euro ride heigth is 25" at rear fender lip and 25.5" at the front lip. This gives a slight nose-down attitude. I'm slightly higher than this right now so the plan is to get to these number and maybe 1/4 to 3/8" lower. I can't go too low because of my steep driveway.

As for alignment settings.....Bruce Anderson recommends:

Front
camber 0 degrees negative +/- 10 min
caster at 6 degress 5 min +/- 15 min
toe-in +15 min +/- 5 min not pressed or 0 deg pressed

Rear
camber 1 degree negative +/- 10 min
toe-in +10 min

My last alignment was close to these but the strut brace limited adjustment. I will be modifing the brace to allow more adjustment.

Traveller 11-20-2010 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunter (Post 5683638)
Where are you getting the Pollen filters from?

Pelican, as I do with all my Mahle brand filters (both oil, air, fuel and cabin air). They are the same units as the ones from Porsche.

As for an oil filter wrench, the one from BMW for oilhead motorcycles fits perfectly...which I already happened to have.

Canada Kev 11-20-2010 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunter (Post 5682386)
My annual trip to Waikiki for an open-air gathering of sun-worshippers and Atheists.
On Sunday Mornings, some self-appointed Prophets have somehow obtained permission to put up loudspeakers near the beach so the non-believers have to endure an open-air performance of local bible-freaks spouting nonsense about the afterlife, hell and damnation for the sinners. While these Gurus cite nebulous scriptures and claiming a direct link to fictitious Gods and Saviors, several volleyball clubs are active on the beach and bring their own music to purposely drown out the BS from the soul-savers.

Hallelujah and amen, brother... :D

Mark Henry 11-21-2010 07:27 AM

Finish my 914 3.0 coversion, build the 3.0 with 9.7cr RSR spec malhe pistons.

Finish my 67 bug, all ready and I have 99% of the parts, but needs full assembly.

Gunter 11-21-2010 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie V (Post 5684165)
Euro ride heigth is 25" at rear fender lip and 25.5" at the front lip. This gives a slight nose-down attitude. I'm slightly higher than this right now so the plan is to get to these number and maybe 1/4 to 3/8" lower. I can't go too low because of my steep driveway.

As for alignment settings.....Bruce Anderson recommends:

Front
camber 0 degrees negative +/- 10 min
caster at 6 degress 5 min +/- 15 min
toe-in +15 min +/- 5 min not pressed or 0 deg pressed

O deg Camber didn't do it for me when cornering; ended up with a good 1/2 deg neg and a little toe-in

Rear
camber 1 degree negative +/- 10 min
toe-in +10 min

Yep, at least a full deg but O toe for me

My last alignment was close to these but the strut brace limited adjustment. I will be modifing the brace to allow more adjustment.

Anderson's recommendation sounds like a Euro setting?
Your driveway restricts your height. Otherwise you may want to go 1/2" lower overall with the bump-steer spacers installed.
I found that a 1/2 - 3/4 deg negative Camber front and 1 - 1.5 deg rear makes the car slide equally in the curves; almost a 50/50 distribution, very nice. :)

Kevin Weidlich 11-21-2010 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunter (Post 5683638)
Kevin:
I found it relatively easy to use a hand pump with a 1/2"? nylon line that came with it to get new Mobil 1 Delvac 75W90 into the G50.

Engine oil and filters: Impossible to do without the correct filter wrench.

Plugs are a real adventure. :rolleyes:

Where are you getting the Pollen filters from?

Gunter, does your 993 have LSD? I am on the fence about using Mobil 1 Delvac, I have heard lots of positive comments about it but also some negative. Mobil said it is not for LSD diff. I might just stick with regular Mobil 1 75w90 or try Redline.

Engine oil and brake fluid were done before storage.

I heard plugs were knuckle busters!

The pollen filters are either coming from Pelican or ********az. I have a friend who lives in Arizona and is coming north for Christmas so she might bring some goodies from ******** for me. Did you want a set of pollen filters?

Gunter 11-22-2010 08:13 AM

Yes, I have LSD.

Here are some answers from the experts:

Transmission oil question for 993 - Rennlist Discussion Forums

It seems that Delvac is alright but it also appears that some people report better results with other oils.

993's can have Dino or Synthetic 75W90 according to the driver's manual.
Would love to hear from someone who tried both and found one or the other better or worse for smooth shifting?

Trial and error?

Thanks for the offer. Pelican sells the pollen filter for $20.- ea.
What puzzles me is the cost of ignition rotors: $31.75 ea. ????

I notice Pelican blocks out competitors on your reply. :)

Traveller 11-22-2010 03:51 PM

Strange that one gear lube would work so well in one owner's 993 and not so well in another owner's 993. :confused:

B-Man100 11-27-2010 05:10 PM

If my 928S4 5spd was up and going I'd be on a WInter Gt. but guess not this year with work.

avt007 11-29-2010 08:43 PM

Charlie, if you want to practice ride height and alignment, drop by my place. The yellow beast is wildly out of whack!

andrew15 11-30-2010 07:58 PM

I'm going to rebuild the engine in my recently purchased 86 930 Slant Nose :

Car :)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1291175832.jpg


Engine :(

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1291175875.jpg

haycait911 11-30-2010 09:28 PM

A SLANTNOSE!! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...s/pukeface.gif

if you want an RX7, just buy one. :rolleyes:

ps. that CAN'T be your garage.

andrew15 11-30-2010 09:41 PM

Don't make me come out there and drag race you!

JJ 911SC 12-01-2010 01:26 AM

Welcome to the SN Club
 
Very nice.

Forgive them Andrew for they know not what they should appreciated :):D:)

wideRSR 12-01-2010 09:12 PM

Andrew I could set you up with some proper fenders... Sad about the engine but at least it found it's way to you.

Traveller 12-02-2010 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ 911SC (Post 5702481)
Very nice.

Forgive them Andrew for they know not what they should appreciated :):D:)

What years did Porsche offer slant nose models, or was that style only offered by a company like RUF?

Were those fenders metal or fiberglass?

andrew15 12-02-2010 09:40 AM

wideRSR - I see BC is filled with comedians!

Traveller - Porsche offered the slope nose option through their special wishes department in the mid 80's, then offered it as an actual option code (505) for 87-89 model years.

Tuners also did conversions on cars with either steel or fiberglass components - this particular car is all steel.

This car aparently had the conversion work done in Germany before it was brought to California in early 86. I need to still do some research to find out when and who did it.

Regards,
Andrew M

JJ 911SC 12-02-2010 09:44 AM

[QUOTE=Traveller;5704603]What years did Porsche offer slant nose models, or was that style only offered by a company like RUF?

Back in 87, the Turbo was offered as a Cabriolet for $76,500 and the optionnal "slant nose" look was $23,500 making it the 1st Porsche production car (not special wishes) to break the $100,000 barrier.

I'm doing the number from memory but I'll confirm tonigh when I get home.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1291311675.jpg

Traveller 12-02-2010 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew15 (Post 5704892)
wideRSR - I see BC is filled with comedians!

Must be the weed. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew15 (Post 5704892)
Traveller - Porsche offered the slope nose option through their special wishes department in the mid 80's, then offered it as an actual option code (505) for 87-89 model years.

Do the factory Porsche "slant nose" models all use steel fenders?

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew15 (Post 5704892)
Tuners also did conversions on cars with either steel or fiberglass components - this particular car is all steel.

JJ, is your 911 slant nose, a tuner conversion using fiberglass?

JJ 911SC 12-02-2010 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traveller (Post 5704955)
Must be the weed. ;)



Do the factory Porsche "slant nose" models all use steel fenders?



JJ, is your 911 slant nose, a tuner conversion using fiberglass?

As you seen, its exactly like the one on the cover... except it it's not The Real McCoy (Deutsch Version) nor its Turbo. Fiberglass front and back.

Back to the magazine, there was about 200 allocated for the US market in 87. The price was $83,310 (Turbo Cab) and $27,864 (Slantnose option package.

Kevin Weidlich 12-02-2010 03:17 PM

[QUOTE=JJ 911SC;5704902]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Traveller (Post 5704603)
What years did Porsche offer slant nose models, or was that style only offered by a company like RUF?

Back in 87, the Turbo was offered as a Cabriolet for $76,500 and the optionnal "slant nose" look was $23,500 making it the 1st Porsche production car (not special wishes) to break the $100,000 barrier.

I'm doing the number from memory but I'll confirm tonigh when I get home.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1291311675.jpg


Cool!!..... I remember getting my mother to buy that magazine for me me when I was 10. I eventually cut it up to make a collage out of all the pictures (quaker state indy, baja 911)

JJ 911SC 12-02-2010 05:18 PM

Kevin

This was a Road & Track Porsche 1988 Special Edition.

It was given to me from a Pelican friend (Stu in CA), earlyer this year, after he saw Das Babe in my PP garage.

He also give me the Christophorus Speciall Edition celebrating the 1,000,000 Porsche produced.

The center fold was a poster of all the cars produced to date; much better then any Playboy, Penthouse and others that I have seen except maybe for the Caligula special... Nah, the movie was much better :D:eek::D

I got the poster laminated at Costco and as I was finishing shopping, every body ask me; which aisle did get it...

It's now proudly display in the garage.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1291338582.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1291338726.jpg

Jim2 12-07-2010 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haycait911 (Post 5702311)
A SLANTNOSE!! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...s/pukeface.gif

ps. that CAN'T be your garage.

Correct Don, not Andrew's garage. However Andrew's garage looks EXACTLY like this one:


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1291338726.jpg[/QUOTE]

haycait911 12-08-2010 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim2 (Post 5715157)
Correct Don, not Andrew's garage. However Andrew's garage looks EXACTLY like this one:


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1291338726.jpg

[/QUOTE]

really :rolleyes:. let's see a few more pics. look here, I even started a thread just for that. D.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/canada/579236-lets-see-your-canadian-garage-pics.html#post5715525

JJ 911SC 12-08-2010 09:05 AM

Don

I got a few more pics and will post them on your thread later today.

JJ


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