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I don't get this about wasting the court's time. If you have a lawyer that takes care of things before even going to court, the court's time doesn't come into play. By going to court and pleading your case and trying to get a reduced charge, you are using the court's time, and possibly wasting it.
As for your father's thinking, that is probably his cop thinking coming into play, nothing to do with your Porsche habit. Now, you really need to think if going to court to plead your case with the prosecutor is worth it. You take a day off from work to do that, and if you are not successful and plead not guilty, you will need to come back another day. If you are on summer break, no problem, but if on a year round schedule, it'll cost you. That would be at least 2 days of missed work vs. hiring an attorney to take care of matters. |
I don't know about CT but in Va reckless (even by speed) is a MISDEMEANOR!
I'd say getting a lawyer is a good thing when it goes past points and a fine. |
I've had the privilege of going to court a few times in my life. You'll be amazed at the offenses which surround you while you wait to be called. The amount of DUI's (multiple offenses), driving without insurance, tags, licenses, etc. followed by the amount of lies from the defendants. I usually state that I'll plead "no contest" and pay a fine. They'll search for your record and yours sounds like it will be a blank piece of paper. I've kept my record clean but I do remember having to do 4 hours of traffic school (what a waste and racket) for one particular healthy ticket.
Your mileage may vary ;) |
Adrenaline junkie friend sent me this madness over the winter.
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If it were 85, fine take your chances, it's just a ticket.
Since this is 90/reckless, if there is even a chance of jail time, I would not F around. It could affect your job status. You have a Porsche, you have a lawyer. Get the lawyer, it will pay for itself. Make a few calls and find out who the kingpin traffic lawyer is. |
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Good luck, man...it'll work out....no worries! SmileWavy |
I've never accused a customer of wasting my time for asking me to do my friggin job.
Isn't that what "the court" is getting paid to do? Oh that's right, they're MORE IMPORTANT than us mere peons. Or at least that's how they acted when I had jury duty. End of rant. PS If i were you (and you're glad I'm not) I'd lawyer up and let him/her deal with it. As long as they don't mind you wasting their time ;) |
yep it ain't about the fine, and even the points are a temporary thing.
but the criminal charge...that's an entirely different matter! guy before us in court got 3 days in the pokey...leading into Christmas Eve! one of the 'witnesses' my co-defendant brought sees this and says 'fark this I ain't going to jail for him!'. comical yet terrifying. |
You're never wasting the court's time. If you lose, you pay court costs. If you win, then the state didn't prove their charges. No time wasted on the part of the court, and everyone in that room is on a gov't. salary, getting paid the same whether they're doodling on a pad or hearing testimony.
In VA a reckless was about the same as a DUI when I lived there - mandatory court appearance and, if you showed without a lawyer, you got a continuance and were told to come back with a lawyer. You simply had to pay the lawyer tax, no matter what. I would call to get the court date pushed out as far as you can, but then still go to court on the originally scheduled date just to watch the proceedings. Chances are the cop who got you will be there, and it will be the same judge and ADA you'll have on your date. See how all that goes. It absolutely will not be boring and you'll learn something. You may be able to speak to the ADA right then and there. You may see the cop is total boob in court, disorganized, unprepared and gets chewed out by the judge. I have seen this before. And you may see people who are 110% guilty of serious offenses skate because the judge is easy. I've seen this too. |
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In the NJ Municipal Courts, the Prosecutor deals with any attorneys first, and any pro se litigants are handled last. Thus, here in NJ an additional advantage to hiring a lawyer is the judge handles your case at the very beginning of the session and wastes less of your time.
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The system is a racket designed to transfer money from the subjects (er... "citizens") to the elite lawyer's club and the associated support structure (law enforcement community, etc.) It's a game. Welcome to it. Pay an attorney to play your role. Good luck! |
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And we can't have cities losing that revenue in exchange for safer roads. |
I got one.... 92 mph. I was stupid and plead guilty, and was given a 550$ fine and misdemeanor. Think it was criminal speeding.
Didn't effect getting a security clearance. If I was to do it again I would pay for legal representation, and get it pleaded down. |
Everybody is entitled to legal representation...
Funny aside on cop mentality...a cute waitress once said: "My daddy is a police officer and I always side with the law." This explaining why she never sat on a jury. ;) Good luck! |
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How much of a gambler are you? If you are risk adverse then ante up and get a local attorney who does tickets. |
I had a misspent youth as a prosecutor and spent a fair amount of time prosecuting traffic violations. Since then I handle traffic cases on a friends and family basis. I can tell you very certainly from both sides of the courtroom that people who do not have attorneys in this situation do not not get the best deal. This is a serious traffic charge, second in seriousness only to a DWI. In fact, it is actually a misdemeanor criminal charge, unlike your basic speed violation. This can have implications on everything from your insurance to employment and your right to enter Canada. Seriously. Canadians stop anyone with a criminal record at the border.
Anyway, a competent defense attorney will give you your best result. There is a formula for handling cases like this but it's not a do it yourself project. |
Wow, I don't doubt that the underlying premise (i.e. that "the system" is upset over a decline in revenue due to better / safer options like Uber and Lyft) is the law that you can't even go to your car to, say... retrieve something? Start the engine to keep warm / charge your phone / because your GF kicked you out? I thought "operating" a motor vehicle entailed putting it in motion on a public roadway but I'm curious to know how they busted someone for simply opening a car door whilst wasted...
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Personally I think that's BS. |
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