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Captain Ahab Jr 02-12-2019 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 10352562)
Williams, my favorite team, that front wing, the outside uprights, ugly. Good luck!

This years livery on last years car

I wish them good luck too, got a vested interest in 3 other other teams now that I hope do well

Lots of B-spec teams in cahoots with factory works teams out there so independent teams like Williams have a huge battle ahead of them

yellowperil 02-12-2019 01:24 PM

Some beauties on this poster, even Pastor's 2012 car
 
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1550009810.jpg

yellowperil 02-13-2019 03:37 AM

IMO best looking car so far, but I guess they all have that front wing. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1550061423.jpg

javadog 02-13-2019 04:58 AM

I think the current cars are all hideous looking. Lots of other current aspects of the sport that I can't stand, I must say.

Looking back at the era from the latter 1980's into the early 1990's, I think that was a golden era, from the design of the cars to the drivers that were involved.

Each new season interests me less and less. The new TV coverage in the US contributes to that, I have to say I've been massively disappointed in it.

Ya'll have fun, I think I'm done.

yellowperil 02-13-2019 07:28 AM

The good old days
 
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1550075278.jpg

yellowperil 02-13-2019 08:54 AM

The good old days part deux Michael and (Fisichella)
 
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1550080369.jpg

Deschodt 02-13-2019 09:25 AM

New Red Bull, yuck.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1550082346.jpg

astrochex 02-13-2019 09:28 AM

That Red Bull has shock factor.

Mercedes has a nice livery. If only the halo was invisible.
https://www.sportnotizie24.com/wp-co...-Formula-1.jpg

rfuerst911sc 02-13-2019 12:25 PM

That Red Bull livery makes it look like a Lego car ! :( Wow she be ugly I hope she's good on the track . Maybe I missed it where is a Honda logo ?

yellowperil 02-13-2019 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10354303)
That Red Bull livery makes it look like a Lego car ! :( Wow she be ugly I hope she's good on the track . Maybe I missed it where is a Honda logo ?

Logo on nose and HONDA on engine cover (sides)

Tervuren 02-13-2019 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 10354056)
New Red Bull, yuck.

I'll wait until its out on track with the other cars.

Having Honda and Aston Martin on the nose cone both is a bit weird.

Captain Ahab Jr 02-13-2019 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 10353642)
IMO best looking car so far, but I guess they all have that front wing. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1550061423.jpg

I have to agree to but the Alfa Romeo Sauber might just beat it on looks

rfuerst911sc 02-13-2019 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 10354371)
Logo on nose and HONDA on engine cover (sides)

Now that you pointed them out I see them ......... I guess millions in sponsorship only gets you so much advertising real estate :rolleyes:

yellowperil 02-13-2019 05:11 PM

A Marlboro paint scheme could make anything look good
 
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1550110262.jpg

legion 02-13-2019 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10354390)
Having Honda and Aston Martin on the nose cone both is a bit weird.

It's even more ironic when you consider that Aston Martin buys its engines from Mercedes. SmileWavy

Deschodt 02-14-2019 07:39 AM

The redBull livery is for testing only, the real one will come later and likely be more conservative...

And force india is still pink... except they ran out of terrible names and opened up the box with "really crappy names", they are now "SportPesa Racing Point F1". Mouthful. I hear commentators calling them sports peas already.

450knotOffice 02-14-2019 09:27 AM

Do any of you guys have a suggestion for a F1 news website besides Planet F1? I'm getting pretty bored with their overly British take on everything. Specifically, the endless chatter about their wonder boy, Hamilton.

There have to be other sites. No?

yellowperil 02-14-2019 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 10355316)
Do any of you guys have a suggestion for a F1 news website besides Planet F1? I'm getting pretty bored with their overly British take on everything. Specifically, the endless chatter about their wonder boy, Hamilton.

There have to be other sites. No?

AutosportF1 and Crash net among many others, but I think the Brits are pretty good at it. My imo

Deschodt 02-14-2019 12:47 PM

Formula 1 News, Live Grand Prix Updates, Videos, Drivers and Results - ESPN (brit but OK)
Autosport above is good but after a few visits they shut you out...
F1.com (surprisingly)
https://www.motorsportweek.com/joesaward/ (when his seires of not so fascinating facts ends, he's on it)

CurtEgerer 02-14-2019 01:25 PM

Kimi's got new shoes ....
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1550183113.jpg

CurtEgerer 02-14-2019 01:32 PM

I like Grand Prix 24/7.

https://www.grandprix247.com/

Captain Ahab Jr 02-14-2019 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 10355316)
Do any of you guys have a suggestion for a F1 news website besides Planet F1?
There have to be other sites. No?

In order of which site has the most up to date info.

Autosport.com the live section is good for keeping track of testing times/news
Grandprix.com
Pitpass.com

I used to compile a competitor design analysis report after pouring over for days the team's test and race spy photo's. The report was distributed from the top to the bottom of the F1 team I worked at

Before everyone goes boooo hoooo that's so unfair :(, all teams do it but maybe not to the level of detail we did

Before sending out my report I'd do one final check to see if I'd missed anything by looking through this forum which has a good thread for each team's car
www.f1technical.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=15

I figured why not harness the collective eyes of a whole world of F1 fanatics, on more than one occasion a little something extra was added ;)

yellowperil 02-14-2019 03:05 PM

That can't be Kimi's car. No no no
 
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Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 10355610)

It looks like it's covered in cheap carpet, or wall paper. As a matter of fact I had a shag carpet that was better looking than that. Is it some sort of Finnish plaid?

He'll have to just stay in the pits.

astrochex 02-14-2019 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr (Post 10355659)
In order of which site has the most up to date info.

Autosport.com the live section is good for keeping track of testing times/news
Grandprix.com
Pitpass.com

I used to compile a competitor design analysis report after pouring over for days the team's test and race spy photo's. The report was distributed from the top to the bottom of the F1 team I worked at

Before everyone goes boooo hoooo that's so unfair :(, all teams do it but maybe not to the level of detail we did

Before sending out my report I'd do one final check to see if I'd missed anything by looking through this forum which has a good thread for each team's car
www.f1technical.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=15

I figured why not harness the collective eyes of a whole world of F1 fanatics, on more than one occasion a little something extra was added ;)

Thats cool and not surprising at all. How can you turn down free intel on your competitors?

stealthn 02-14-2019 04:02 PM

Looking forward to see how Force India, I mean Racing Point does as a Canadian team.

Tervuren 02-14-2019 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr (Post 10355659)
In order of which site has the most up to date info.

Autosport.com the live section is good for keeping track of testing times/news
Grandprix.com
Pitpass.com

I used to compile a competitor design analysis report after pouring over for days the team's test and race spy photo's. The report was distributed from the top to the bottom of the F1 team I worked at

Before everyone goes boooo hoooo that's so unfair :(, all teams do it but maybe not to the level of detail we did

Before sending out my report I'd do one final check to see if I'd missed anything by looking through this forum which has a good thread for each team's car
www.f1technical.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=15

I figured why not harness the collective eyes of a whole world of F1 fanatics, on more than one occasion a little something extra was added ;)

This is also why the top teams make livery reveals instead of the final version of the car reveals.

yellowperil 02-15-2019 11:42 AM

Ferrari always looks nice! IMO
 
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1550263257.jpg Flat paint?

Captain Ahab Jr 02-15-2019 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10355868)
This is also why the top teams make livery reveals instead of the final version of the car reveals.

Not quite right, main reason for not showing the real parts on the reveal is to hold off the manufacturing of the first test aero components to very last minute to allow the wind tunnel to have as much development time as possible

Most teams will be working 24 hrs a day on the final manufacturing stages and load testing/validation of next weeks test wing packages this weekend

These parts will be flown out/driven over night to hopefully make it to at least one of the days of running

rfuerst911sc 02-16-2019 04:13 AM

Captain are you close enough to the teams to get a sense of how the teams feel about Liberty taking over the sport ? Or what they think of what Liberty wants to do with the sport ? As an example I read an online report from Horner basically saying Liberty bit off more than they can chew and really haven't put on paper the " vision " of the sport moving forward . Your thoughts ?

Neilk 02-16-2019 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr (Post 10355659)

I used to compile a competitor design analysis report after pouring over for days the team's test and race spy photo's. The report was distributed from the top to the bottom of the F1 team I worked at

Do you have a very dated report that you could share to see what is going on behind the scenes?

Captain Ahab Jr 02-18-2019 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Neilk (Post 10357391)
Do you have a very dated report that you could share to see what is going on behind the scenes?

Sorry no, didn't even keep a report back for myself

When I leave a team I make sure I take with me the only thing I brought into the team when starting, which is myself :)

My thoughts on Liberty?? Like or loathe Bernie he built up F1 from nothing to everything, Liberty have bought everything and so far have done nothing

On my visa when I went to Japan with Honda, my occupation was written down as 'Entertainer', that is what F1 is about. Unfortunately most senior people within F1 forget this as they are so busy chasing their own selfish individual/team goals they tend to lose track of the the fact.

Hopefully Liberty can make the show more exciting but it will be a big challenge for them

astrochex 02-18-2019 03:14 PM

^Do you think the new aero rules will promote closer and theoretically more exciting racing?

Tervuren 02-18-2019 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr (Post 10356767)
Not quite right, main reason for not showing the real parts on the reveal is to hold off the manufacturing of the first test aero components to very last minute to allow the wind tunnel to have as much development time as possible

Most teams will be working 24 hrs a day on the final manufacturing stages and load testing/validation of next weeks test wing packages this weekend

These parts will be flown out/driven over night to hopefully make it to at least one of the days of running

I could be misremembering, but I seem to recall a period where the part of the car that had to be checked in advance, crash testing, etc, would be on display from some teams.

But the bolt ons such as the wings would still not be according to the new rule book.

Now it seems every reveal is last years car in a new wrap/livery.

sammyg2 02-20-2019 07:16 AM

I'm going on record as predicting a total collapse at Williams.
They are at least weeks behind everyone else.
While other teams are competing for fastest lap, Williams is working on seat fitment for drivers with NO test laps so far. They have not been on track yet but there are rumors that they have started the car's engine in the garage.

Either they are playing a sly cat and mouse game and have discovered the magic, or they are falling apart in front of our eyes.

I hope I am completely wrong about this.

Noah930 02-20-2019 07:25 AM

When you put it in those terms, Sammy, it reminds me of Marussia/HRT/Caterham...

yellowperil 02-20-2019 08:12 AM

Still a chance,I hope
 
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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 10362213)
I'm going on record as predicting a total collapse at Williams.
They are at least weeks behind everyone else.
While other teams are competing for fastest lap, Williams is working on seat fitment for drivers with NO test laps so far. They have not been on track yet but there are rumors that they have started the car's engine in the garage.

Either they are playing a sly cat and mouse game and have discovered the magic, or they are falling apart in front of our eyes.

I hope I am completely wrong about this.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1550682528.jpg

Maybe they need an upgraded engine, what they're using now (below) is a bit outdated IMO http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1550682724.jpg

Captain Ahab Jr 02-20-2019 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10360506)
I could be misremembering, but I seem to recall a period where the part of the car that had to be checked in advance, crash testing, etc, would be on display from some teams.

The front nose and rear impact structures only need a 300mm wide section of front main plane or rear lower wing bolted on when crash testing

New cars are only just built in time or in Williams case not built in time. Photo shoots of the real car are usually done in the early hours before everything leaves the factory for Barcelona and are considered a disruptive inconvenience to the build/transporting schedule

sammyg2 02-20-2019 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 10362308)
Maybe they need an upgraded engine, what they're using now (below) is a bit outdated IMO http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1550682724.jpg

LOL that reminds me of the movie Joe Dirt.
At the end of the movie Charlene says "do you really think that slant 6 can beat this Hemi"?
The Trans Am has a 6.6 decal on the hood scoop. And it has a magic windshield that fixes itself after getting shattered with rocks.
Besides, the slant six was a Chrysler engine!
Course, Joe's "67 hemi road runner" was wrong also.
It's a 67 GTX, road runners didn't come out until '68 and didn't look anything like the car in that movie.
And don't get me started on all the problems with his parents' rambler station wagon in the show.


I'm sorry, what were we talking about again?

yellowperil 02-20-2019 10:37 AM

...talking about Williams finally hitting the track today. Put a few laps in without issues. Drew lots of attention by the look of the crowd around their garage.

Everyone loves an underdog, hope they do well this year. A win or podium would be nice!

rfuerst911sc 02-20-2019 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 10362522)
...talking about Williams finally hitting the track today. Put a few laps in without issues. Drew lots of attention by the look of the crowd around their garage.

Everyone loves an underdog, hope they do well this year. A win or podium would be nice!

The draw for Williams this year ( in my opinion ) is not only the team being an underdog but Kubica being an underdog due to his injury . I think a LOT of folks myself included will be pulling for him . I think the expectations may be set too high for him to come out of the gate like nothing has happened . I would just like to see competitive results and the team getting better . We are not that far from the start of the season .


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