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scottmandue 02-21-2019 10:01 AM

School me on VPN
 
I am a computer tech but my job focuses more on hardware and keeping ancient computers running with bubble gum and bailing wire.

We got high speed internet a few months ago at home and a few people (and a few websites) are suggesting I set up a VPN.

A quick search and it appears this is a service you have to pay for?

I get that a VPN makes out internet connection super safe, but for a casual home user is it really necessary?

TIA

dennis in se pa 02-21-2019 10:02 AM

not necessary

stomachmonkey 02-21-2019 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 10363927)
....but for a casual home user is it really necessary?

TIA

Depends.

How paranoid are you?

Do you want to access content that may be geofenced?

I use Nord.

I need to access backend systems at MSFT, Sony and Nintendo and that access is based on IP whitelisting which kind of restricts you to one or two locations, my office, home.

Using a VPN I can give them an IP address to whitelist that I can access from anywhere.

VPN will slow things down a bit but not something you'd generally notice.

Plus it's cheap as hell, currently Nord is $36 a year with a 3 year commit.

id10t 02-21-2019 10:12 AM

VPNs are useful if you travel or connect to unknown or untrusted wireless access points, etc. Basically all traffic is encrypted and tunneled over the VPN and exits to "the world" from the other end point of the VPN.

I'm too lazy to do it, so when I need that functionality, I use a SSH tunnel and either create a SOCKS4/5 proxy or simply forward X11 over the SSH tunnel.

KFC911 02-21-2019 10:17 AM

In an ancient past life...had at least 2k sales folks around the world, and many others VPN'd into "our" secure Intranet daily...solves a lot of issues.

T-Rex ;)

scottmandue 02-21-2019 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 10363940)

Do you want to access content that may be geofenced?

I use Nord.

I need to access backend systems at MSFT, Sony and Nintendo and that access is based on IP whitelisting which kind of restricts you to one or two locations, my office, home.

Using a VPN I can give them an IP address to whitelist that I can access from anywhere.

VPN will slow things down a bit but not something you'd generally notice.

Plus it's cheap as hell, currently Nord is $36 a year with a 3 year commit.

Yes, this is RE: my thread about internet video streaming and me thinking of signing up for HULU/Sling to get sports but after research they may block some games due to my location. A pelican suggested a VPN is a workaround for that.

dennis in se pa 02-21-2019 10:29 AM

He said " a casual home user". Don't you people read a post before responding? A casual home user does not need a VPN. Unless he becomes a non-casual home user who wants to access websites that disallow the IP from his actual locale.

biosurfer1 02-21-2019 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 10363927)

I get that a VPN makes out internet connection super safe, but for a casual home user is it really necessary?

TIA

I wouldn't say it makes it "super safe", I'd say marginally more safe. VPN's won't stop you from downloading malware, or buying things online so your identity info is out there.

If you travel a lot, they can be great since you don't have to worry about fake hotspots, network sniffers, etc but for home use, there isn't a huge benefit (except for geofencing like mentioned above)

stomachmonkey 02-21-2019 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 10363980)
Yes, this is RE: my thread about internet video streaming and me thinking of signing up for HULU/Sling to get sports but after research they may block some games due to my location. A pelican suggested a VPN is a workaround for that.

Correct, geofenced content.

When you visit a site you get on the internet from your IPS's entrance ramp.

It's a known IP range and it's geographic location is known so it can be blocked.

When you use a VPN tunnel you can pick the entrance ramp you appear to be getting on from.

So if you wanted to access content that was geofenced for let's say Germany only you pick a server located in Germany and it spits you out there so it appears that's where you are located.

stomachmonkey 02-21-2019 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dennis in se pa (Post 10363981)
He said " a casual home user". Don't you people read a post before responding? A casual home user does not need a VPN. Unless he becomes a non-casual home user who wants to access websites that disallow the IP from his actual locale.

With the prevalence of cord cutting and retaining access to content the casual home user is the largest target market for point n click VPN services.

KFC911 02-21-2019 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dennis in se pa (Post 10363981)
He said " a casual home user". Don't you people read a post before responding? A casual home user does not need a VPN. ...

I don't read my own posts....you expect me to read others' ;)?

Yer right...

flipper35 02-21-2019 10:52 AM

Funny, when I clicked I thought he meant VPN to connect to work with.

KFC911 02-21-2019 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 10364013)
Funny, when I clicked I thought he meant VPN to connect to work with.

That's where I went too.....

Eric at Pelican Parts 02-21-2019 11:24 AM

I just use the Opera browser, you can enable VPN natively for free, and basically gives you an IP from a different country of your choosing. It will solve your geoblocked content, but i'm not 100% sure if it'd work with hulu/netflix.

Eric at Pelican Parts 02-21-2019 11:39 AM

I've used it for the past few years to watch sportscar racing and shows in the UK and Asia- it hasn't let me down. There was a free Le Mans stream with audio only which was pretty darn awesome.

Doesn't hurt to give it a shot on the side to see if it suits your needs!

stomachmonkey 02-21-2019 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric at Pelican Parts (Post 10364059)
I just use the Opera browser, you can enable VPN natively for free, and basically gives you an IP from a different country of your choosing. It will solve your geoblocked content, but i'm not 100% sure if it'd work with hulu/netflix.

Works fine if browser traffic is all you need to deal with.

A VPN Service like Nord will handle everything going through the pipe from your device.

They have solutions for Windows, OSX, Linux, iOS, Android and Android TV's, as well as browsers.

The iOS and Android stuff is useful for mobile devices on public WIFI.

David 02-21-2019 12:22 PM

I access my company network programs, my LAN folders, my building's A/C and security systems through VPN at home. So sitting at home VPN connected to the company's network is virtually the same as being at my company computer in the office.

widebody911 02-21-2019 12:41 PM

I too use Nord; at home when I'm downloading and on my phone when I'm travelling.


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