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tight as a bull's ass 03-17-2003 05:46 PM

War
 
i suppose it has come down to this....

after many months of "negotiations", it seems the US (and allies) is finally ready to go in and remove the Saddam regime and "liberate" the people of Iraq.

Although I'm not a big BUsh supporter, I did agree with most of the things he said in his speech tonight. It's better to act now, remove an imposing threat, than have to deal with a bigger threat down the road.

If we go into Baghad, it's likely many US soldiers and allies will get killed. That will have a negative impact on public opinion....so it should be executed fast and precise.....hopefully moden technology can minimize death...

Tonight, i came home after work, it was such a nice day, I just had to wash and do some detailing work on my 911...i appreciate the many freedoms this country has given me and I hope the oppressed Iraqi people can experience some of those freedoms as well.....


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pwd72s 03-17-2003 05:55 PM

The U.N. "mission" has ended...the USA's mission may soon begin. I'm hoping the best for our troops. Because of their efforts, past as well as now, we enjoy our liberty to mouth off...in this country, even Louie Farrahkan (sp?) and David Duke are allowed to express their opinions.

dougcl 03-17-2003 06:10 PM

There are a lot of things to be afraid of in this world, and personally, I consider GW Inc. a greater threat than Saddam Hussein or anyone else. They've got the power, and they're willing to abuse it. They've got the weapons, and they're willing to use them. A question for those who fear Saddam: do you fear everything the authorities tell you to fear? This administration has been all about fear since 9/11. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Do you support the troops? Bring them home now.

Doug
75 911S

Emission 03-17-2003 06:13 PM

I support the President, and I support the Troops. I enjoy the freedom they have both provided me.

If I didn't, I don't deserve to live in the United States.

ccandgc 03-17-2003 06:17 PM

good job doug!

doofdog 03-17-2003 06:22 PM

The president back in Sept. 2001 said it would be a long war on terrorism. He would find it wherever it was and go after anyone who supports it. Saddam fits the bill. You go George! I think people are getting complacent (SP). Its time to support or troops and Commander in Chief.

Axeman 03-17-2003 06:25 PM

How many more countries will the US go demolish after Iraq? Where will they stop, until the entire planet has a McDonald's and a Mickey Mouse at each corner? Bush clean the mess this country is first. I'm tired of not being able to go out at night because of of gangmembers and murderers.

Tim Walsh 03-17-2003 06:26 PM

I don't belive saddam is that much of a threat that it requires that many soldier's lives. To me this seems like a "I have to be better than daddy" thing, but that's me.

If we're gonna go, then for all you troops out there. Start kickin' some ass and come home safely. We're all behind you.

ccandgc 03-17-2003 06:26 PM

I support our troops 100%....not the village idiot.

pwd72s 03-17-2003 06:27 PM

For some educational interest to other parts of the USA here, Oregon is a divided state. There is the state's one huge population center, the Portland area. This is also known as "Moscow by the Willamette". Then there is the rest of the state. Other than a pair of university towns, Eugene and Corvallis, it's pretty conservative. "Moscow by the Willamette" outrules the rest of the state in voting power. Especially in Multnomah county, where I suspect vote hanky-panky. So, many of us are prisoners in paradise, even if we were born here, like my wife. My apologies to Doug, but he doesn't reflect the opinion of all who live in Oregon...

Matt Smith 03-17-2003 06:27 PM

A lot of people on this planet don't want a war.

doofdog 03-17-2003 06:28 PM

I am sorry you feel that way but the rest of the world must come first. As the leader of the free world we have certain obligations. I don't think he wants a McD's in Iraq. If the people of Iraq do then good for them let them decide.

Typical Fish 03-17-2003 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by l33t9eek
I don't belive saddam is that much of a threat that it requires that many soldier's lives. To me this seems like a "I have to be better than daddy" thing, but that's me.

If we're gonna go, then for all you troops out there. Start kickin' some ass and come home safely. We're all behind you.

I agree. Regardless of your take on the situation, let's try to remember that those guys are over there putting their lives on the line for our country.

carreradpt 03-17-2003 06:33 PM

I just returned from flying missions in the region and will be back out shortly. Our troops deserve our support, they are dedicated and have a tough job ahead of them. The leadership of Iraq is a great threat to this country and now is the time to put that to bed. They brought this on not us and they will now reap their just rewards. War is terrible but sometimes it is the right thing to do.

ccandgc 03-17-2003 06:33 PM

:eek: Most people here in Hawaii dont want war either....I live within 2 minutes of a major Marine base....and less that half an hour from Pearl Harbor and some other bases....Bush is so fosused on Saddam Insane, there are other "axis of evil" countries out there.....are they on the back burner untill Iraq is a glass ash tray?? Its unnerving to know the N. Koreans have nukes that can reach us here in HI as well as the west coast!

pwd72s 03-17-2003 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by carreradpt
I just returned from flying missions in the region and will be back out shortly. Our troops deserve our support, they are dedicated and have a tough job ahead of them. The leadership of Iraq is a great threat to this country and now is the time to put that to bed. They brought this on not us and they will now reap their just rewards. War is terrible but sometimes it is the right thing to do.
Dan? Godspeed! I think our commander in chief explained things well in his 15 minute speech. I do believe he has more inside info than we who watch Peter Jennings...My best to you and those near you. Paul SmileWavy

jyl 03-17-2003 06:44 PM

This is OT, but as long as others are jumping in . . . I have a pretty conflicted view.

1. I am intensely opposed to the Bush Administration. From the economy to the environment, from personal liberties to foreign policy, even to the approach taken against terrorism, I disagree with just about everything that Bush, Cheney, et al do. I think this is the most ideologically extreme administration since Reagan.

2. I reluctantly feel that Saddam has to be removed and that the UN inspections will never succeed, hence a war is the only way. I don't necessarily think Saddam is a threat today, but in 5 years he'll have nuclear weapons and be the de facto leader of the radical Islamic world in the midst of the most unstable region of the world. We can't deal with North Korea now - imagine North Korea with oil money. So I'm in the unhappy position of supporting Bush's war while opposing Bush's Presidency.

3. Once the war starts, it is in everyone's interest that it be fast and decisive. Whether you support or oppose the war or the Administration, it's a fact that the longer the war, it more will cost in every dimension - US/Allied lives, Iraqi lives, civilian and soldiers, economic destruction here and abroad, etc. Including possibly some Pelican members. So I'm rooting for our troops to win a crushing victory. It's not war-mongering, it's not supporting the President - it is painful logic.

doofdog 03-17-2003 06:44 PM

Carreradpt.. Be safe and God Bless. and oh. Give em HELL!!!

pwd72s 03-17-2003 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Smith
A lot of people on this planet don't want a war.
NONE off the people on this planet want a war...the debate is about when a fight is called for.

redducati750 03-17-2003 06:51 PM

I had the privlage of mooning about 300 protesters last night. My fealing is that if you are ignorant enough to think that Sadam would not drop a bomb on your head without blinking go over to Iraq and find out. I promise that nobody in the US is going to miss you. I will say that the "human sheilds" were funny, im SO suprised they split once that sheild thing came into play. If i was in charge id ask them to hold some homing beacons for the bombs or, at least wear bulleyes. Flaming liberas are one of the few more significant threats than Iraq and Al-Quada.


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