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LWJ 05-14-2019 02:12 PM

What’s the deal with Iran?
 
I see what the US is doing and saying. The reported reasons are not specific.

This makes me very wary.

We ran into war in Iraq for all the wrong reasons. I have not been given any reasons for the saber rattling regarding Iran.

Can we have a civil and educational discussion on this?

Thanks.

Tervuren 05-14-2019 02:33 PM

Have you ever payed any attention to what their leaders have said publicly?

island911 05-14-2019 03:01 PM

Death to America
Death to America
Death to America
Death to America
Death to America
Death to America
Death to America

- Iran

rfuerst911sc 05-14-2019 03:15 PM

My opinion is no US troops should set foot in Iran. They hate us and all we stand for . Always have . Ratchet up sanctions and let it be . We have MUCH bigger issues at home to try and solve . As an example I'm waiting for affordable health care . We need massive infrastructure building/rebuilding . The list is endless .

Bugsinrugs 05-14-2019 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10458893)
My opinion is no US troops should set foot in Iran. They hate us and all we stand for . Always have . Ratchet up sanctions and let it be . We have MUCH bigger issues at home to try and solve . As an example I'm waiting for affordable health care . We need massive infrastructure building/rebuilding . The list is endless .

I totally agree but just to mention. The people of Iran don’t hate us. The leaders are the problem. I guess just like every country.

rfuerst911sc 05-14-2019 03:30 PM

Bugs good point and I agree .

Tervuren 05-14-2019 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10458893)
My opinion is no US troops should set foot in Iran. They hate us and all we stand for . Always have . Ratchet up sanctions and let it be . We have MUCH bigger issues at home to try and solve . As an example I'm waiting for affordable health care . We need massive infrastructure building/rebuilding . The list is endless .

Affordable healthcare, what does this mean?

This is like saying, affordable cars.

You get affordable cars by cutting down on features and options.

The same applies to the cost of healthcare.

rfuerst911sc 05-14-2019 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10458929)
Affordable healthcare, what does this mean?

This is like saying, affordable cars.

You get affordable cars by cutting down on features and options.

The same applies to the cost of healthcare.

I suggest you ask that question to the president , he campaigned on " affordable " health care . If I remember correctly it was going to be easy to implement . His words not mine .

My personal situation on health care . Between my wife and I we worked 85 years . Saved like crazy and retired at 60 . We pay $1400.00 per month for health care not my idea of affordable . But we are fortunate , we both had good jobs and with the help of a financial planner we hit our financial goals .

There are so many people that can't afford any health care , in a country as wealthy as the US this is unacceptable . End of rant sorry for the long winded reply .

Tobra 05-14-2019 04:33 PM

So by "healthcare" you mean "insurance." I am younger than you, my wife is younger than me, and I wish my insurance premiums were as low as yours.

Persians generally like Americans. Their leadership is the problem.

RKDinOKC 05-14-2019 04:38 PM

Local pizza joint is owned and run by some immigrant Iranians. They are very nice. Told me everyone iincluding a lot of relatives of theirs hate America. But they want the money they make, but don't want to work for it like they have.

rfuerst911sc 05-14-2019 04:48 PM

Whether it is called healthcare or insurance to me that's symantecs . Not trying to argue with you to me they are the same thing . You go to a doctor for an ailment that cost needs to be paid for . I really think there should be a portion of your pay check every week that goes into a health fund . Kind of like social security . Not sure if it should be a government fund or private . Is that socialized medicine ? Maybe or maybe some hybrid socialized medicine . I admit I'm not smart enough to solve the healthcare crisis in our country , but I am smart enough to realize that what we have now isn't working for everyone . And maybe it can never work for everyone .

Tervuren 05-14-2019 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RKDinOKC (Post 10458965)
Local pizza joint is owned and run by some immigrant Iranians. They are very nice. Told me everyone iincluding a lot of relatives of theirs hate America. But they want the money they make, but don't want to work for it like they have.

Over the years have met and often worked with several Iranian religious/political refugees.

All of them, universally, are thankful to be here where they no longer fear being taken, and tortured, executed or both.

We fail to realize just how good we have it here.

It takes work and resistance to keep over here from becoming over there.

Bill Douglas 05-14-2019 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RKDinOKC (Post 10458965)
They are very nice.

Yes they are very nice, but are loyal only to A11ah, and if the instruction comes to wreak havoc...

BRPORSCHE 05-14-2019 07:05 PM

The issue is that there aren't enough Persian chicks that live in my neighborhood.

KFC911 05-14-2019 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LWJ (Post 10458838)
I see what the US is doing and saying. The reported reasons are not specific.

This makes me very wary.

We ran into war in Iraq for all the wrong reasons. I have not been given any reasons for the saber rattling regarding Iran.

Can we have a civil and educational discussion on this?

Thanks.

Talk is cheap...both sides imo. Where does it lead?

Aa far as being a REAL tangible threat to the USA?

Russia, China, Iran...puleeze :(....

Unintended consequences...

onewhippedpuppy 05-14-2019 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10458893)
My opinion is no US troops should set foot in Iran. They hate us and all we stand for . Always have . Ratchet up sanctions and let it be . We have MUCH bigger issues at home to try and solve . As an example I'm waiting for affordable health care . We need massive infrastructure building/rebuilding . The list is endless .

I'm self employed. Come to my house and tell me about affordable health care and I'll stab you to death with a spoon.:cool:

Fly Mach .86 05-14-2019 07:51 PM

We need to invade Iran and Venezuela to protect our oil. :DSmileWavy

Fly Mach .86 05-14-2019 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 10458878)
Death to America
Death to America
Death to America
Death to America
Death to America
Death to America
Death to America

- Iran

Which doesn't literally mean "death to America" but if you took some time to study other cultures you might know that.

pavulon 05-14-2019 08:10 PM

The history of the US and Iran is overflowing with cloak and dagger.

RSBob 05-14-2019 08:10 PM

A better question might be What’s the deal with the President walking away from the Iranian Nuclear Agreement and potentially getting us into another Iraq-like conflict when he originally promised us to get all our troops out of the Middle East? If he had staid the course none of this would be happening, just like Iraq.


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