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BReif61 04-06-2023 08:30 AM

Simple question that may be answered earlier, but I didn’t see:

A Chinook flew overhead at work yesterday, with a slight yaw angle relative to direction of travel. Is this due to torque? Weathervaning?

billybek 04-06-2023 04:41 PM

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The Big EZ? ;)
Looks pretty cool.

Zeke 04-06-2023 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BReif61 (Post 11966098)
Simple question that may be answered earlier, but I didn’t see:

A Chinook flew overhead at work yesterday, with a slight yaw angle relative to direction of travel. Is this due to torque? Weathervaning?

Cross wind. I'm not even a pilot.

rattlsnak 04-06-2023 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BReif61 (Post 11966098)
Simple question that may be answered earlier, but I didn’t see:

A Chinook flew overhead at work yesterday, with a slight yaw angle relative to direction of travel. Is this due to torque? Weathervaning?

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11966594)
Cross wind. I'm not even a pilot.

Not necessarily…. You can certainly keep it straight in a cross wind but then the body will be tilted into the wind… Just a matter of technique. You could also fly “crooked“ with no wind… Again, technique, lazy pilot, etc..

Dantilla 04-06-2023 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by billybek (Post 11966551)
The Big EZ? ;)

Velocity.

Another kit airplane. Different versions available- Fixed gear, retractable, the most common, like this one, and also a twin-engine version.
Large, comfortable cabin.

Dantilla 04-06-2023 06:35 PM

Twin Velocity:

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fanaudical 04-06-2023 10:35 PM

Snake on a plane:

https://news.sky.com/story/snake-on-a-plane-highly-venomous-cobra-found-under-seat-12851486

bugstrider 04-07-2023 08:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by billybek (Post 11966551)
The Big EZ? ;)
Looks pretty cool.


Yerp, it’s a local Velocity. Kinda falls into the rich guys canard. Have seen some with seriously pimped out custom interiors with Italian leather and wood trim.

The factory in Florida is impressive. There is a video of the twin doing a fly by, sounds verrrryyyyy sexy.


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svandamme 04-08-2023 04:39 AM

I wonder how those twin velocities fly on 1 engine
the push prop sits way in the back

vs normal twin to the front.. how does that affect single engine behavior

oldE 04-08-2023 05:19 AM

I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn last night, but since the engines are so close to the center line I would think the off center thrust would be diminished.
Hoping someone with experience can give us the real answer.

Best
Les

bugstrider 04-08-2023 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by oldE (Post 11967789)
I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn last night, but since the engines are so close to the center line I would think the off center thrust would be diminished.
Hoping someone with experience can give us the real answer.

Best
Les


Mornin Les,

You are pretty much on target with your thoughts regarding centerline thrust on one engine. Here is a link that better explains some of your questions in single engine performance in the twin Velocity.

https://youtu.be/8MrSBaxHwYg

As you can see, with the twin engine design, they lost the traditional vertical winglets and went with a traditional vertical stabilizer. I “thought” I read something about them even playing around with turban engines, but not 100% on that. Beachcraft designed and built the Starship. Just to bad the idea never gained traction.

Cheers
Bugs


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bugstrider 04-08-2023 09:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11967773)
I wonder how those twin velocities fly on 1 engine
the push prop sits way in the back

vs normal twin to the front.. how does that affect single engine behavior


They perform surprisingly well on a single engine. I attached a link from the AOPA with a short flight review.

That said, I personally have no one on one experience in the Twin Velocity……..yet[emoji6]
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Got this in the mail yesterday….
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oldE 04-08-2023 10:09 AM

Thanks, Bugs. That sure is a pretty airplane. I had no idea it even existed.
One thing puzzled me. In the video, he said the airplane was controllable below stall speed. Since stall speed in my understanding is the speed at which the aerodynamic surfaces no longer generate lift, I am wondering if he meant the airplane could be recovered in that case.

Best
Les

Dantilla 04-08-2023 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bugstrider (Post 11967980)
Beechcraft designed and built the Starship. Just to bad the idea never gained traction.

The FAA was unfamiliar with composite construction when Beech had the Starship certified.
Being that it's difficult to examine composite construction for hidden flaws, the FAA's requirements for structural redundancy added so much weight from the original design that the final product had limited payload, and didn't offer the much higher performance over the King Air that was expected.

Though the King Air is among the slower turboprops, it's easy to fly, is stable, and offers a large, comfortable cabin.
Pilots enjoy flying hot rods, but when the CEO, who is riding in the back picks out the airplane, he votes for the big, comfortable cabin.
Beechcraft has sold a ton of them.

Dantilla 04-08-2023 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by oldE (Post 11967999)
... the airplane was controllable below stall speed. Since stall speed in my understanding is the speed at which the aerodynamic surfaces no longer generate lift, I am wondering if he meant the airplane could be recovered in that case.

Twin engine airplanes have a "Minimum Controllable Airspeed" which is typically a bit higher than stall speed.
With one engine out, the other at full throttle, below this speed, full rudder will no longer keep the airplane flying straight.
Without immediately reducing throttle and shoving the nose down, the asymmetric torque from the operating engine out on the wing will cause the airplane to begin turning towards the dead engine, and begin to roll over on its back.

It happens quicker than reading about it.

Among all the colored markings on an Airspeed Indicator, twin engine airplanes have the Blue Line, marking Minimum controllable Airspeed.

It is imperative when flying a twin to always remain above Blue Line.

oldE 04-08-2023 10:51 AM

In one of the videos, factory tour, the pilot demonstrated the aircraft's response to a stall.. The nose dropped,(hands off) it recovered airspeed, nose went up again, but not as far. The aircraft went through two or three oscillations before resuming level flight at the power setting selected. Not quite idiot proof, but impressive.
Thanks again for the guidance and links. I'm just a tech junkie. :D

Best
Les

bugstrider 04-08-2023 08:48 PM

I love this……

Folks WAYYYYYYY smarter than me interjecting their experiences and expertise. It a win win for everyone.

Thanks for everyone’s input. Keep it rollin, or flyin [emoji3][emoji6]

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glewis80SC 04-10-2023 05:34 PM

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