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[widebody911]

[pmax]

Anyone else seeing the irony of paying a fine to get off bribery charges...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/airbus-reaches-international-deal-over-corruption-probe-11580195579

[Mahler9th]

Perhaps of interest:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/grantmartin/2020/01/18/toyota-invests-590-million-in-electric-air-taxi-company-joby-aviation/#4c0f59e68ea0

Many things in our world are changing very, very fast.

[john70t]

Somebody well worth mentioning in the history of aeronautics:
(the pilots and entire team also deserve equal mention.)


I watched Discovery Channel "Future Flight". https://www.oldies.com/product-view/6167JD.html
They went into freaking space, on a limited shoestring budget and schedule, using nothing but duct tape and left over bailing wire.
"Looks about right. Let's do it."
The entire thing is a miracle.

John Denver crashed in his new Rutan Long-EZ because he did not check fuel before flight.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by flipper35

The the unit in the video would be a survey UAV for Mars then?

Not that exact unit...they were doing wing concept trials for the folding wing concept my partner designed.

He worked for NASA at the time.

[abisel]

https://www.airforcemag.com/air-force-starts-f-15ex-buying-process/?fbclid=IwAR2aH3PU24bGYCG0m9yFs0T6kKwHCaO9J0q9MIG5 21bZRhLdX_07Kn4eYCE

[edgemar]

Saw this yesterday while getting coffee.

[edgemar]

^^^^^Restoration Candidate????

[pavulon]

The Venom is not the Huey most remember.

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

I wish I got a pic-We had 6 black Hueys fly over a month ago, caught me by surprise as I looked.
I did not know our miliary was even using them anymore.

[edgemar]

Is that the best single seat heli?

[pavulon]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

Venom? I know no venom -inform me
I do know OD green really really well. (with all its variations)

Google UH-1Y

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

OHhhhh the twin engine ?

I am too old school to like the new stuff.

Not if you have flown it, trust me.

I have (as a CDR I worked in the Y/Z program office at Pax and was able to get a ride on a Low Rate Initial Production Y.

I have ridden in single engine Hueys, never piloted one. The difference between yesterday's Huey and the Y is astounding.

[edgemar]

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by john70t

Somebody well worth mentioning in the history of aeronautics:
(the pilots and entire team also deserve equal mention.)


I watched Discovery Channel "Future Flight". https://www.oldies.com/product-view/6167JD.html

They went into freaking space, on a limited shoestring budget and schedule, using nothing but duct tape and left over bailing wire.
"Looks about right. Let's do it."
The entire thing is a miracle.


John Denver crashed in his new Rutan EZ, only because he neglected to check remaining fuel from the day previous, before flight.

I should probably look it up, but wasn't John Denver's aircraft new to him but built by the PO and the PO had the fuel selector switch in an odd position over your shoulder?

[dlockhart]

[cairns]

With respect to Mr. Denver:

Date: 12-OCT-1997
Time: 17:28
Type: Silhouette image of generic LGEZ model; specific model in this crash may look slightly different
Rutan Long-EZ
Owner/operator: Henry John Deutschendorf Jr (stage name John Denver)
Registration: N555JD
C/n / msn: 54
Fatalities: Fatalities: 1 / Occupants: 1
Other fatalities: 0
Aircraft damage: Written off (damaged beyond repair)
Category: Accident
Location: Pacific Grove, CA - United States of America
Phase: En route
Nature: Private
Departure airport: Monterey, CA (MRY)
Destination airport:
Investigating agency: NTSB
Narrative:
The pilot had recently purchased the experimental, amateur-built Long-EZ airplane, which had a fuel system that differed from the designer's plans. The original builder had modified the fuel system by relocating the fuel selector handle from a position between the front pilot's legs to a position behind & above his (or her) left shoulder. There were no markings for the operating positions of the fuel selector handle, which were up (for off), down (for the right tank), and to the right (for the left tank). This deviation from the original design plans did not require FAA approval, nor did it require a placard to indicate such change from the original design. On 10/11/97 at Santa Maria, CA, the pilot received a 1/2-hour flight and ground checkout in the airplane by another Long-EZ pilot. The checkout pilot reported that the pilot needed a seatback cushion to be in position to reach the rudder pedals, and that he had difficulty reaching the fuel selector handle while seated with the cushion added. The pilot then departed on a 1-hour flight to his home base at Monterey with an estimated 12.5 gallons of fuel in the right tank & 6.5 gallons in the left tank. The checkout pilot estimated about 9 gallons of fuel were needed for the flight, and he noted the fuel selector was positioned to the right tank before departure. On 10/12/97 (the next day), a maintenance technician assisted the pilot in preparing for another flight. During preflight, the pilot was not observed to visually check the fuel. The technician noted that when the pilot was seated in the airplane, he had difficulty reaching the fuel selector handle. Also, he gave the pilot a mirror to look over his shoulder to see the unmarked, non-linear, fuel sight gauges, which were located in the rear cockpit. The technician estimated the available fuel and advised the pilot that the left tank indicated less than 1/4 full and that the right tank indicated less than 1/2 full. He said his estimate was based on the assumption that the gauges were accurate and linear. The pilot declined an offer for additional fuel, saying he would only be airborne about 1 hour and did not need fuel. The technician observed that before the engine was started, the fuel selector handle was in a vertical position; however, he did not note whether it was up (off) or down (right tank). As the technician went to the hangar, he heard the engine start & run for a short time, then quit. He saw the pilot turn in the seat toward the fuel selector handle, then the pilot motioned with his hand that things were all right. The technician did not observe whether the pilot had repositioned the fuel selector. The pilot restarted the engine, taxied, took off, and performed three touch-and-go landings in a span of about 26 minutes, followed by a straight-out departure to the west. Ground witnesses saw the airplane in straight and level flight about 350 to 500 feet over a residential area, then they heard a reduction of engine noise. The airplane was seen to pitch slightly nose up; then it banked sharply to the right & descended nose first into the ocean. The major structural components of the airframe were found fragmented on the ocean floor near the engine, but no preimpact part failure was found. The fuel selector valve was found in an intermediate position, about 1/3 open between the engine feed line and the right tank, and about 2-4% open to the left tank. Tests using another engine showed that the engine could be operated at full power with the selector in the as-found position; however, when the cap was removed from the left port (simulating the effect of an empty left tank), fuel pressure dropped to less than 1/2; & within a few seconds, the engine lost power. Conditions were simulated using another Long-EZ to evaluate the maneuver required to switch tanks from the front seat. The simulation revealed that 4 actions were required to change the fuel selector in flight: 1) Remove pilot's hand from the control stick; 2) Loosen shoulder harness; 3) Rotate upper body to the extreme left to reach the fuel selector handle; & 4) Rotate the handle to a non-marked (not logically oriented) position. During the evaluation, investigators noted a natural reaction for the pilot's right foot to depress the right rudder pedal when turning in the seat to reach the fuel selector handle. With the right rudder depressed in flight, the airplane would pitch up slightly & bank to the right.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by flipper35

I should probably look it up, but wasn't John Denver's aircraft new to him but built by the PO and the PO had the fuel selector switch in an odd position over your shoulder?

And it was sticking, leading to flipping over after pushing a pedal for leverage afaik. Denver was an experienced pilot and had flown it briefly the day before as an intro flight. He must have been aware of that problem and awareness of all aircraft controls were not yet instinctual. He also must have been aware of the fuel levels as well. Supposedly ground crew offered to fill it up or check it pre-flight, but he declined, thinking there was more remaining than there actually was (6gal i think). That plane was capable of holding so much more. A combination of basic mistakes from a very well liked person. I hope other pilots keep that in the back of their minds and his needless death serves a purpose.

[john70t]

The Icon A5 doesn't have power, speed, acrobatics, or range.
But it's got everything else.

[flipper35]

The Icon is also LSA so just about anyone can fly it.

[edgemar]

Just flew over. Marines fly by every afternoon towards the coast in west los angeles.