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cassisrot 08-02-2019 11:38 AM

Can Audi, BMW, Porsche, etc survive in US without pickup trucks in their lines?
 
I recently read that by 2022 the only ford car will be the Mustang. Folks aren't buying many autos. Will European companies have to manufacture trucks?

masraum 08-02-2019 11:43 AM

as long as they are making SUVs, they'll be fine. I think there will continue to be sporty cars.

GH85Carrera 08-02-2019 12:11 PM

When the Cayenne was first mentioned Porsche faithful howled about Porsche making trucks. The Porsche SUVs have made great profits for Porsche. They don’t need a pickup. The pickup market has lots of variety. They can stick to the market they have and will have with the all electric car with the horrible name. Tycan.

WPOZZZ 08-02-2019 01:56 PM

At least Audi and Merc still sell wagons in the US.

rfloz 08-02-2019 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cassisrot (Post 10544811)
I recently read that by 2022 the only ford car will be the Mustang. Folks aren't buying many autos. Will European companies have to manufacture trucks?

I keep hearing people aren't buying sedans ny more. Is Toyota dropping the Camry? Or Honda the Civic? Even Hyundai seems fairly healthy.

Maybe Ford just can't produce a competitive product.

petrolhead611 08-02-2019 04:15 PM

They just brought out a new Focus in hatch and wagon styles

onewhippedpuppy 08-02-2019 06:03 PM

Why would they? It’s a hyper competitive market with incredibly strong brand loyalty that most import makers don’t really understand. There’s a reason why the big 3 dominate the segment. Ford discontinued their car products because they wanted to retool the plants to focus on their better selling SUVs, it was a business decision. Their cars were actually selling fairly well, but nothing compared to SUVs.

rusnak 08-02-2019 06:30 PM

People who drive everywhere with an empty steel box on the back of their car just for looks or to make a "statement", and that would be just about everyone who drives a Man Bling truck, remind me of the kid who has to wear a walkaway vest. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564799360.jpgOnly their tether line broke. And they need protective headgear like this kid:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564799393.jpg

nota 08-02-2019 06:45 PM

a better question is how do/did the euro survive with out pick ups

other then the old transporter VW or the rabbit thing I have seen very few home grown

of course they are over run with jap pickups and diesels we can't get

btw what happened to a old style 2 door ''work '' pickup simple and cheap
all most all are 4 door now loaded with extras bling-rigs

rusnak 08-02-2019 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nota (Post 10545187)
a better question is how do/did the euro survive with out pick ups

other then the old transporter VW or the rabbit thing I have seen very few home grown

of course they are over run with jap pickups and diesels we can't get

btw what happened to a old style 2 door ''work '' pickup simple and cheap
all most all are 4 door now loaded with extras bling-rigs

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Let Doug De Muro explain the "chicken tax" at 7:22

ian c2 08-02-2019 07:32 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564803135.jpg

petrolhead611 08-02-2019 11:19 PM

The Mercedes version of the Nissan Navarro pickup for folks who want to look like rich farmers rather than drive the Navarro to look like ornery farmers

petrolhead611 08-02-2019 11:24 PM

Big pickups are hell to park in Europe, and tricky to drive through the narrow streets in many European old towns and villages. Only showoffs buy them here unless they need to use them as work trucks, and most tradesmen prefer the much cheaper, more economical and more practical panel Vans which are available in a huge variety of roof heights and wheelbases to suit needs.

pavulon 08-03-2019 04:17 AM

The Honda efforts have been a styling smash hit! Audi and Porsche need only to follow that playbook.:(

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564834579.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564834630.jpg

Dantilla 08-03-2019 05:42 AM

Until they make a truck with a full eight-foot box, it is of no value to me.
I often max out my 3/4 ton. When it is empty, rusnak can laugh at me all he wants.

masraum 08-03-2019 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 10545379)
The Honda efforts have been a styling smash hit! Audi and Porsche need only to follow that playbook.:(

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

pavulon 08-03-2019 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10545461)
I just threw up in my mouth a little.

Only a little? I'm sure the Ridgelines work really well (like every Honda) but jeebus are they homely.

jcommin 08-03-2019 07:34 AM

As Toyota and Nissan have learned, it is very difficult to compete in the full size pick-up market whichis dominated by Ford, GM and Ram.

They have better opportunities in the mid size truck market but that is crowded too with GM and Ford having newer products.

That leaves the SUV market which I think they are well positioned.

The wild card is hybrid and electric vehicles - I'm uncertin about that rate of growth or what vehicles they will be in. I work for a Tier 1 company in the automotive industry and that growth has an impact on the facility I work at.

expatriot98 08-03-2019 12:44 PM

That's a Honda


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Originally Posted by ian c2 (Post 10545227)



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