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pwd72s 10-29-2019 10:50 AM

Now one can...
 
Crash into the cars and coffee crowd faster than ever before. ;)

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/10/29/ford-mustang-shelby-gt500-0-60-acceleration-time/

GH85Carrera 10-29-2019 11:29 AM

That is crazy fast for a street car. I guess they are all back into HP wars and this time the cars all get decent mileage.

And if you factor in the inflation and get out of California, gas is really about the same price as 1970 gas. And those original muscle cars are slug slow compared to modern cars.

KFC911 10-29-2019 11:42 AM

I bet now ya don't crash leaving....it's on the way in :)

rattlsnak 10-29-2019 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10639947)
That is crazy fast for a street car.

?? All of the top tier street cars have been turning those times for a few years now..

Bill Douglas 10-29-2019 11:45 AM

They say, these days, it's not how you crash - it's how well you crash.

GH85Carrera 10-29-2019 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rattlsnak (Post 10639972)
?? All of the top tier street cars have been turning those times for a few years now..

And it is just crazy fast. Yea, lots of cars are near or even under a 10 second 1/4 mile. That is still faster than all but drag racers only from a few years back.

At most tracks they require a full roll cage to run under 10 second times.

Dmitry at Pelican Parts 10-29-2019 12:10 PM

Would be fun / funny to see it go against a Tesla Model 3 Performance since they both have the same 0-60 times.

Jeff Higgins 10-29-2019 04:56 PM

Sub 11's on street tires? In a 4,200+ pound package? Holy smokes. My various bracket cars of the late '70's and early '80's had to be on slicks to do that, and they all weighed under 3,000 pounds.

I would be interested to see one of these things at a local bracket race. I would be willing to bet not a one actually breaks 12 seconds on its issue street tires. Horsepower alone won't do it, especially in a car that heavy. It's all about the launch and the first couple hundred feet when it comes to those kinds of ET's. That's where street tires fail...

rattlsnak 10-29-2019 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 10640334)
Sub 11's on street tires? In a 4,200+ pound package? Holy smokes. My various bracket cars of the late '70's and early '80's had to be on slicks to do that, and they all weighed under 3,000 pounds.

I would be interested to see one of these things at a local bracket race. I would be willing to bet not a one actually breaks 12 seconds on its issue street tires. Horsepower alone won't do it, especially in a car that heavy. It's all about the launch and the first couple hundred feet when it comes to those kinds of ET's. That's where street tires fail...

Have you ever driven a newer Porsche with Launch control? They will easily do that all day long.. on street tires.. and it's bullet proof... and this was 5 years ago..

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71T Targa 10-29-2019 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmitry at Pelican Parts (Post 10640010)
Would be fun / funny to see it go against a Tesla Model 3 Performance since they both have the same 0-60 times.

Not the Mustang, but...
<iframe width="683" height="384" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/zFiw3_uXyyQ" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

svandamme 10-30-2019 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 10639973)
They say, these days, it's not how you crash - it's how well you crash.

No no; it's not how well you crash
it's how deep into the crowd can you plow !

They should bring out a Ford Mustang Juggernaut edition

svandamme 10-30-2019 01:01 AM

holy sjit there already is such a monstrocity !!!

https://juggernautpower.com/

masraum 10-30-2019 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rattlsnak (Post 10639972)
?? All of the top tier street cars have been turning those times for a few years now..

Camaros, mustangs and chargers?

Or are you talking about Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini and McLaren?

rattlsnak 10-30-2019 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10640637)
Camaros, mustangs and chargers?

Or are you talking about Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini and McLaren?

Porsche is absolutely a normal street car class.. The others, I would consider exotics/rare/etc..

svandamme 10-30-2019 10:22 AM

riiiiight

Dmitry at Pelican Parts 10-30-2019 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71T Targa (Post 10640544)
Not the Mustang, but...
<iframe width="683" height="384" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/zFiw3_uXyyQ" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

That car is stupid fast and has ridiculous handles too - we took a pretty sharp turn getting on a fwy on ramp at like 80 and the car didn't make a sound.

legion 10-30-2019 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 10640334)
Sub 11's on street tires? In a 4,200+ pound package? Holy smokes. My various bracket cars of the late '70's and early '80's had to be on slicks to do that, and they all weighed under 3,000 pounds.

I would be interested to see one of these things at a local bracket race. I would be willing to bet not a one actually breaks 12 seconds on its issue street tires. Horsepower alone won't do it, especially in a car that heavy. It's all about the launch and the first couple hundred feet when it comes to those kinds of ET's. That's where street tires fail...

Every Mustang from 2015+ has a line lock and a launch mode. I've never used either feature myself.

legion 10-30-2019 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmitry at Pelican Parts (Post 10640010)
Would be fun / funny to see it go against a Tesla Model 3 Performance since they both have the same 0-60 times.

My friend has a Model S. He can beat my Mustang in a drag race. The key difference, is after the drag race, I can drive 150 miles to Chicago whereas he has to go back to the charger.

john70t 10-30-2019 02:01 PM

When you get to a certain HP/lbs ratio plateau...isn't 4WD a requirement?

I never understood stoplight racing.
Still don't.

Jeff Higgins 10-30-2019 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rattlsnak (Post 10640503)
Have you ever driven a newer Porsche with Launch control? They will easily do that all day long.. on street tires.. and it's bullet proof... and this was 5 years ago..

No, I have never had the pleasure. Aren't those Turbos shown in those two videos 4WD? And about 1,000 lbs lighter than this Mustang?

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion (Post 10641271)
Every Mustang from 2015+ has a line lock and a launch mode. I've never used either feature myself.

The line lock is (or was in my day) only used to keep the car stationary during the burnout.

Launch control limits the throttle and/or feathers the clutch to avoid wheelspin, right? There still has to be a certain level of mechanical grip.

Back in my day, sub-11 second cars ran on slicks. There was no "launch control", but there was plenty of traction. The four speed cars were launched by sitting on the line as the Christmas Tree counted down with the motor turning 6,000-7,000 rpm. Timing this to when we thought the light was going to turn green (looking for that hole shot), we simply stepped off the clutch pedal. Anyone who has ever done this knows just how utterly violent the ensuing mayhem really is - it sounds like you smacked a manhole cover with a sledgehammer. That's what it took to get into the tens.

Maybe they make it up with horsepower now, with the cars accelerating much more aggressively in the top half of the track. I've watched many of the undoubtedly countless videos of these cars supposedly running in the tens, and I just don't see the violent launches that characterized those E.T.'s back when I was playing the game.


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