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Rawknees'Turbo 04-12-2020 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 10821429)
. . .to cater to a bunch of old folks posting that they are no longer car guys in OT.

. . .

What a concept - a car guy forum with a, "I'm not a car guy anymore" strokefest thread. Of course, this is the same car guy forum with threads about ballsack trimming and the joys of pedicures. :D

fintstone 04-12-2020 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan A (Post 10821569)
Was this explanation before or after your ill-fated attempt to impose your mores in there. You remember I’m sure, the one that ended with you having an online temper tantrum and taking your toys away when people refused to “respect your authoritah”?

Asking for a friend...

I know a lot of folks that were good customers here (and also brought a lot of "clicks" to this site) that have left due to the heavy hand of certain moderators. We have had some that recognized their own bias on issues and tried to reign it in. Others have not. A little common sense would go a long way. If one is the recipient of multiple personal attacks...and there seems to be no moderation...eventually they will respond with similar. The same is true when something held relatively sacred is attacked...one's family, religion, country, etc. In my case, repeated attacks against the U.S. military as a group (while I have friends and relatives serving/dying)...it simply presses my buttons enough that I feel obligated to respond (with as much or more). If that gets me banned for life...so be it. The company has every right to manage the site as they see fit...but the folks that run to mommy irk me to no end. If two posters here engage in a bit of insult swapping...and neither is offended enough to cry to the management...why the heck would someone else do so? It reminds me of the sixth grade tattletale. It seems one would at least make sure their own feces didn't smell first.

Sounds like "management" recognizes the real problem.

fintstone 04-12-2020 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10821600)
What a concept - a car guy forum with a, "I'm not a car guy anymore" strokefest thread. Of course, this is the same car guy forum with threads about ballsack trimming and the joys of pedicures. :D

Yep...Let's ban the car guys from the car guy forum. They might just talk a little crustier than the exchange-a-recipe crowd.

I took my '89 out today for the first time in a few months...and no doubt, I am a "car guy". That doesn't necessarily mean that I would not let you come over and change my oil while I watched TV...just sayin.

Rawknees'Turbo 04-12-2020 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 10821861)
Yep...Let's ban the car guys from the car guy forum. They might just talk a little crustier than the exchange-a-recipe crowd.

I took my '89 out today for the first time in a few months...and no doubt, I am a "car guy". That doesn't necessarily mean that I would not let you come over and change my oil while I watched TV...just sayin.

In some parts, "change your oil" is a euphemism for f***ing, ya' kinky bastage!!! :eek:

:D

KFC911 04-12-2020 05:29 PM

LOL....I missed the "PARF band" on tour...

The 'stones ....featuring Runnie on lead guitar :).

Rawknees'Turbo 04-12-2020 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 10822041)
LOL....I missed the "PARF band" on tour...

The 'stones ....featuring Runnie on lead guitar :).

Ha ha! Ya, Mr. Stone is a competitive bisch - bisch decided that no way, no how was he going to let me hog all the band! :D

fintstone 04-12-2020 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 10822041)
LOL....I missed the "PARF band" on tour...

The 'stones ....featuring Runnie on lead guitar :).

And you want to be Yoko Ono?

Rawnee doesn't have a mean bone on his body. He is genuinely funny. I could care less if he is crazy or disagrees with me on every topic.

He is banned from PARF...but for some strange reason allowed to roam free with the bluehairs in OT. Strangest thing I have ever seen here. I have no idea the reason why.

I got a bit wound up here...and should probably slink back to PARF where they intentionally post misinformation that needs correcting (folks here are just clueless). I am beginning to think they (in PARF) just like the spanking. How they run this little bit of internet is none of my business.

I just wanted to add my two cents on the stock market moves...as I have luckily nailed it in the recent past...and was frustrated that I was unable to post good advice (when I pulled out my money a month ago)...but no one would have listened anyways. I came back in at a good time (I think) and made a lot of what I lost back. Hopefully it continues...but I am ready to act quickly if not. I think/hope I will actually come out better than before this crisis.

Or I might lose everything. It is only money.

Later my friend.

fintstone 04-12-2020 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10821916)
In some parts, "change your oil" is a euphemism for f***ing, ya' kinky bastage!!! :eek:

:D

I didn't know. A lube job, huh?

I bet if you called it "making love" you would get a lot more...and not even have to pay for it. Just sayin.

Rawknees'Turbo 04-12-2020 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 10822155)
I didn't know. A lube job, huh?

I bet if you called it "making love" you would get a lot more...and not even have to pay for it. Just sayin.

Paying for it heightens the stimulatory effect, as one never knows if the next rental might be the poooolice in disguise! :eek:

Rawknees'Turbo 04-12-2020 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 10822151)
And you want to be Yoko Ono?

Rawnee doesn't have a mean bone on his body. He is genuinely funny. I could care less if he is crazy or disagrees with me on every topic.

He is banned from PARF...but for some strange reason allowed to roam free with the bluehairs in OT. Strangest thing I have ever seen here. I have no idea the reason why.

I got a bit wound up here...and should probably slink back to PARF where they intentionally post misinformation that needs correcting (folks here are just clueless). I am beginning to think they (in PARF) just like the spanking. How they run this little bit of internet is none of my business.

I just wanted to add my two cents on the stock market moves...as I have luckily nailed it in the recent past...and was frustrated that I was unable to post good advice (when I pulled out my money a month ago)...but no one would have listened anyways. I came back in at a good time (I think) and made a lot of what I lost back. Hopefully it continues...but I am ready to act quickly if not. I think/hope I will actually come out better than before this crisis.

Or I might lose everything. It is only money.

Later my friend.

I think KC would serve better as Yucko BoneO! :eek:

Appreciate the brotherly luv, FintIsStoned ***forum butt pinch***, and as far as the PARF ban(d) goes, I was punished, along with Dean and a couple others, for our rampant flinging of feces (all in good fun to me, but as you know, many forum members do not share my refined and sophisticated sense of humor :D) - it was a temporary punishment, with mine being the longest duration, since I was often the instigator of the slangin'. BUT, before the banning moderator (Chris@PelicanParts - a very easygoing guy, BTW) removed the paddle from my glutes, he apparently moved on from his Pelican duties, so I have been hanging in limbo from my gonadulars for almost two years now. Pooooooor me!!!!!!! :D

fintstone 04-12-2020 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10822290)
I think KC would serve better as Yucko BoneO! :eek:

Appreciate the brotherly luv, FintIsStoned ***forum butt pinch***, and as far as the PARF ban(d) goes, I was punished, along with Dean and a couple others, for our rampant flinging of feces (all in good fun to me, but as you know, many forum members do not share my refined and sophisticated sense of humor :D) - it was a temporary punishment, with mine being the longest duration, since I was often the instigator of the slangin'. BUT, before the banning moderator (Chris@PelicanParts - a very easygoing guy, BTW) removed the paddle from my glutes, he apparently moved on from his Pelican duties, so I have been hanging in limbo from you gonadulars for almost two years now. Pooooooor me!!!!!!! :D

I have not seen Dean (Beygon) or Tervuren around for months...after seeing them daily here for years. I guess maybe they are/were banned too.

KFC911 04-13-2020 01:16 AM

Mebbe I'll catch the fall tour of the PARF band. It'll give Fint & Runnie time to practice their "chops" and learn some new songs...like my old fav...

"Market Timer's Blues"

Is there a list of the band members these daze? It's hard to know who's playing what from afar ;)

fintstone 04-13-2020 08:39 AM

Beats me, Yoko. I have been gone for over a month.

The market is...what it is. As long as I have more money in a couple of years than I have today...I will be relatively happy. It is not like I really need any of it. Our needs are small...and we have been blessed. I play the market just for fun.

McLovin 04-13-2020 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 10822294)
I have not seen Dean (Beygon) or Tervuren around for months...after seeing them daily here for years. I guess maybe they are/were banned too.

speeder too.

We’re taking on a lot of casualties here.

KFC911 04-13-2020 08:58 AM

Noticed Tobra has been missing too.

We need a "I ain't posting here no more..." when we take a hiatus these daze, but I usually don't even know when mine start :D

Rawknees'Turbo 04-13-2020 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 10822294)
I have not seen Dean (Beygon) or Tervuren around for months...after seeing them daily here for years. I guess maybe they are/were banned too.

A couple of months ago I saw an OT post of Dean's with the "banned" wording under his username, and I've also noticed not seeing Terv posting, but have not seen an old post of his showing he is banned (would be surpriesed about that, since he mostly steered clear of the shiit slinging, unlike Dean who was always in the center of any fecal storm. :)).

sammyg2 04-14-2020 07:53 AM

I predicted a train wreck the minute I found out about the new sheriff in town and took a powder for a month or two to stay out of it, much better that way.
Nothing personal, I just figured it would end the way it did and didn't want to get any on me.


Back to the topic of buying stocks:
Fidelity sux.
Sux bad.
Nothing but parasites looking for a percentage. I would NOT recommend using fidelity.

I am transitioning seven different accounts to a different house and of course, fidelity is trying to find ways to charge me extra fees on the way out the door.




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sammyg2 04-14-2020 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 10822740)
Noticed Tobra has been missing too.

We need a "I ain't posting here no more..." when we take a hiatus these daze, but I usually don't even know when mine start :D

Always hated when people say they are taking their ball and going home, they should just do it and not say nuthin. Or do say nuthin. Or say nothin, or not say sumthin. Double negatives piss me off.

If someone leaves and they are missed, they are missed. if they are not ...... well it's all for the best

be-sides, they almost always come back. SmileWavy

I would like to see a sticky with the names of those on time-out, that would be fun.

fintstone 04-14-2020 04:05 PM

Heck...I was gone a month...and was not missed. In fact, apparently just the opposite. Oh well, I sure brought havoc to another site...that was without moderation...except a bunch of old women that were into calling people that did not believe in socialism "racists" and "white supremist". After posting here for years, their tactics did not work very well on me.

McLovin 04-15-2020 04:30 PM

With oil at an 18 year low, under $20/barrel, I have an order in for USO when the market opens tomorrow.
This is short term. I’ll have a sell order in to sell when I’ve made 20%.
Maybe I’ll use the money to buy a project car and get my Car Guy Card back :)

Rawknees'Turbo 04-15-2020 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 10824636)
Heck...I was gone a month...and was not missed. In fact, apparently just the opposite. . . .

Fake news!!!

McLovin 04-15-2020 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by McLovin (Post 10826048)
With oil at an 18 year low, under $20/barrel, I have an order in for USO when the market opens tomorrow.
This is short term. I’ll have a sell order in to sell when I’ve made 20%.
Maybe I’ll use the money to buy a project car and get my Car Guy Card back :)

Ah, changed my mind.
I don’t fully understand how the USO ETF works so I’m canceling.

KFC911 04-15-2020 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10826078)
Fake news!!!

Fint probably just used his alter-ego logon...Dipso :D.

Rawknees'Turbo 04-15-2020 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 10826228)
Fint probably just used his alter-ego logon...Dipso :D.

Ha ha - maybe!

Or perhaps Kachi is Fint's other forum handle, and the back and fourths seen between them are just staged by Fint for his personal amusement?!?!

fintstone 06-05-2020 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 10822151)
And you want to be Yoko Ono?

Rawnee doesn't have a mean bone on his body. He is genuinely funny. I could care less if he is crazy or disagrees with me on every topic.

He is banned from PARF...but for some strange reason allowed to roam free with the bluehairs in OT. Strangest thing I have ever seen here. I have no idea the reason why.

I got a bit wound up here...and should probably slink back to PARF where they intentionally post misinformation that needs correcting (folks here are just clueless). I am beginning to think they (in PARF) just like the spanking. How they run this little bit of internet is none of my business.

I just wanted to add my two cents on the stock market moves...as I have luckily nailed it in the recent past...and was frustrated that I was unable to post good advice (when I pulled out my money a month ago)...but no one would have listened anyways. I came back in at a good time (I think) and made a lot of what I lost back. Hopefully it continues...but I am ready to act quickly if not. I think/hope I will actually come out better than before this crisis.

Or I might lose everything. It is only money.

Later my friend.

I wanted to revisit this post to champion Rawnees' freedom from Ban Island again. I also wanted to revist the stock market predictions. As I started typing, I see a 1000 point move up today (hope it will continue). I hope some took my advice and reentered as it has almost been straight up (as with all my other recommendations here in the past. If so, congratulations as you have probably made any money you lost in the drop or more. well done! If not, good luck with future investment decisions.

sammyg2 06-05-2020 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 10798853)
Couldn't sit on my hands any longer, back in.
Spread out over funds based on S&P, and some blended funds that are a little more conservative. Not too aggressive, not too greedy.
Prolly early but sometimes you just gotta say what the heck.
Got out at 25k, back in at 22k, if it doesn't fall again I'm good.
Even if it does it'll eventually rebound, just take longer.

Thanks, Fint ;)

sammyg2 06-05-2020 09:09 AM

BTW, just sold off most if it about 10 minutes ago.
Short term move, might be back in Monday afternoon.

fintstone 06-05-2020 04:45 PM

Hard to fault profit taking. Especially after the largest 50-day rally in history.

pmax 06-08-2020 12:15 PM

So, did Buffett time it all wrong ?

sammyg2 06-08-2020 01:16 PM

Bought back some SPY this morning, up for the day even though I left some on the table. I'm OK with that. Still got a lot on the sidelines.
Don't much sweat a little lost opportunity when traded for security. Better to miss what could have been than lose what was.

It's run up big and fast. Maybe too much so? I can't help but think we're in for a small correction.
Almost time to switch from aggressive to more balanced, I heard that somewhere.

RWebb 06-08-2020 01:49 PM

we're always in for a small correction...

biosurfer1 06-08-2020 02:45 PM

My portfolio is officially ahead of where it was before everything started.

Back in March when I was watching my account drop 5 figures per day, I thought it was going to be a LONG time before I could say that. Crazy times for sure.

sammyg2 06-09-2020 07:50 AM

Did a great big cannonball back into SPY, VUG, F, CVX, and BA among others at opening bell.
To early to tell if it was a dumb thing to do but looks promising so far.

GG Allin 06-09-2020 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GG Allin (Post 10797928)
UPRO or TQQQ on the way back up, if you can stomach it.

I've currently got a 75% gain on UPRO, just wish I had bought a lot more.

fintstone 06-09-2020 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by biosurfer1 (Post 10897063)
My portfolio is officially ahead of where it was before everything started.

Back in March when I was watching my account drop 5 figures per day, I thought it was going to be a LONG time before I could say that. Crazy times for sure.

Me too. Pulled out after losing a bit, but summoned up my testicular fortitude and went 100% in at almost the exact bottom. Once again, better lucky than smart (in my case). You know what they say about fools and drunks.

sammyg2 06-09-2020 09:54 AM

The expense ratio for UPRO is .92%,
VUG is .04%

Most of the holdings are identical, just the percentages vary.
VUG is a little heavier in Microsoft, apple, amazon etc.
Performances are similar.

SPY (expense ratio of .09%) is also S&P based but more spread out.

I figure close to 1% is pretty big paycheck for managing a passive fund.

GG Allin 06-09-2020 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 10897992)
The expense ratio for UPRO is .92%,
VUG is .04%

Most of the holdings are identical, just the percentages vary.
VUG is a little heavier in Microsoft, apple, amazon etc.
Performances are similar.

SPY (expense ratio of .09%) is also S&P based but more spread out.

I figure close to 1% is pretty big paycheck for managing a passive fund.

UPRO is triple leveraged, not for the faint of heart. I only bought a little. I've got a friend who was pushing me to go big. He went big (several hundred thousand) on TQQQ, triple leveraged Nasdaq. Averaged around $37 per share. He made a fortune.

sammyg2 06-09-2020 10:35 AM

I did not know that. Learn something new every day.
Seems a bit more risky than I'm comfortable with in my "advanced" years but I can see how it would be advantageous last month and this month and maybe next ;)
I still have a lot more research to do. This stuff can be complicated!


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3 Triple-Leveraged ETFs, and Why You Shouldn't Buy Any of Them
It may sound like a good idea to multiply your investment dollars by three, but here's what you should know.
Jun 25, 2017 at 6:07PM


Leveraged exchange-traded funds, or ETFs, can effectively double or triple your exposure to a certain index or asset class and can be used to create a long (bull) or short (bear) position. For example, a triple-leveraged S&P 500 ETF will return three times the daily performance of that index. However, before you buy a triple-leveraged ETF, it's important to know how they work -- and the drawbacks of holding them for long periods of time.
Three examples of triple-leveraged ETFs

To illustrate what these investment vehicles are and what they might be used for, here are three examples of popular triple-leveraged ETFs. To be clear, I'm not recommending or endorsing any of these.

The Direxion Daily Financial Bull 3X Shares (NYSEMKT:FAS) tracks the Russell 1000 Financial Services Index, whose top holdings include Berkshire Hathaway, JPMorgan Chase, and Wells Fargo. The fund uses instruments that seek to produce 300% of the index's daily performance.

The ProShares UltraPro Short S&P 500 ETF (NYSEMKT:SPXU) is an inverse triple-leveraged ETF that aims to return three times the inverse of the S&P 500's daily performance. In other words, if the S&P 500 decreases by 1% today, this fund should theoretically gain 3%.

The Direxion Daily Gold Miners Index Bull 3X Shares (NYSEMKT:NUGT) amplifies the daily performance of the NYSE Arca Gold Miners Index, which includes companies that primarily mine for gold.

Leveraged ETFs tend to have above-average expense ratios (fees), and that is certainly the case with the ETFs I mentioned above, although I wouldn't necessarily call the fees excessive. Besides, the fees aren't the reason most investors should avoid leveraged ETFs.

Here's the problem. Notice the key word "daily" that appears in all three fund descriptions. Triple-leveraged ETFs typically produce triple the daily return of the underlying index/investment. You might think that this would produce triple the return of the index over long periods of time, but mathematically, this is simply not the case.

Consider this simplified example. Let's say that a certain stock index that starts at $100 falls by 20% on the first day (now $80), rallies by 20% on the second day (now $96), and then falls by 25% on the third day (now $72). Overall, this produces a net loss of 28% for the three-day period.

A triple-leveraged ETF tracking the same index would fall by 60% on the first day (now $40), rise by 60% on the second day (now $64), and drop by 75% on the third day (now $16). This translates to a three-day loss of 84%, which is exactly three times the loss of the index. No big surprise yet.

The problem is what these loss percentages mean. In the first case, the non-leveraged ETF would have to rise by 39% to get you back to even. On the other hand, the leveraged ETF would have to rally by a staggering 525% just to break even.

Again, this is a simplified example, but mathematically, the point is that declines in the index have a more devastating effect on the long-term performance of leveraged ETFs, essentially creating a negative bias over time (unless the index goes straight up forever). In other words, these funds rarely, if ever, match triple their index's performance over long time periods.
Examples

Take a look at the performance stats in the table. As an example, the triple-leveraged financial sector ETF averaged a 45.9% annualized total return over the past five years, which sounds excellent at first. One-third of this would be 15.3%. However, the financial sector has generated total annualized returns of 17.5%, on average, over the same time period. So if the leveraged ETF had returned triple the index's return each year, the annualized return should have been a much greater 52.5%.

On the other hand, consider the example of the triple-short S&P 500 ETF. If you had simply shorted the S&P 500 over the past five years, you would have lost 54.6% of your investment. So a $10,000 investment would have turned into $4,540. Not great performance by any definition. However, if you had purchased the triple-leveraged short S&P 500 ETF, you would be down 92.1%. Your $10,000 investment would now be worth just $790.

The takeaway is this: If the underlying index moves favorably, triple-leveraged funds can certainly go up, but they tend not to actually produce three times the underlying index's performance. On the other hand, when the underlying index isn't moving in your favor, triple-leveraged ETFs can be absolutely dangerous.
The Foolish bottom line

To be perfectly clear, leveraged ETFs like those I discussed here certainly serve a purpose. For example, professional traders can use them as a hedge against big market moves.

Rather, I'm saying that these make lousy long-term investments and should therefore be avoided by investors who have a long-term focus. In other words, if you want to bet on the S&P 500, buy a standard S&P 500 index fund like the Vanguard S&P 500 ETF (NYSEMKT:VOO). Leave the leveraged ETF versions of this investment alone.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/06/25/3-triple-leveraged-etfs-and-why-you-shouldnt-buy-a.aspx

island911 06-09-2020 08:55 PM

Did anyone say gun and glass manufacturers?

Seems they are doing great.

sammyg2 06-10-2020 12:19 PM

VUG vs. S&P

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