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GH85Carrera 11-11-2022 11:46 AM

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Inside a home in, 1942, photo by John Collier.

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Another job for the SdKfz 9/1 of Hamburg Fire Brigade after the war

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The Oxford Arms Inn in London was originally built in the 16th century and rebuilt following the Great Fire of 1666. It was still occupied when photographed here in 1875 but was threatened by demolition.
It was pulled down three years later, making way for a range of new houses.
Britain was slow to create a state-sponsored programme to protect and record the historic environment. In the 19th century, concerned individuals and groups helped to fill the gap.
The pressure they brought to bear encouraged the gradual evolution of nationwide programmes to record and care for historical monuments and to build up our remarkable collections, which now serve to document the nation's past.
An early group was the Society for Photographing Relics of Old London. It was formed in 1875 to record historic buildings threatened by development and made copies of its photographs available to subscribers. Photographers Alfred and John Bool captured the Oxford Arms Inn for the Society.

Steve Carlton 11-11-2022 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11845500)
8x10 film and a tripod mounted camera. HUGE film stock and the image is not enlarged, it is reduced. The color is likely new from this century, but the image quality of old film cameras was amazing.

That had to have been shot at 1/60th of a second or less to stop the motion, right? Did they have color film that fast in 1903 (unless it was staged)? I really don't know, but that seems like the best color shot I've ever seen in that era.

flatbutt 11-11-2022 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11845543)
That had to have been shot at 1/60th of a second or less to stop the motion, right? Did they have color film that fast in 1903 (unless it was staged)? I really don't know, but that seems like the best color shot I've ever seen in that era.

I'd guess it was colorized later, much later.

GH85Carrera 11-11-2022 12:42 PM

It was likely shot in B&W and colorized in recent years. They can do amazing colorization now.

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Steve Carlton 11-11-2022 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 11845547)
I'd guess it was colorized later, much later.

I'm certain you're right. The colorization in this is exquisite. I don't think the shutter speed was much faster than 1/60th. You can see the motion blur in this large B&W version.

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GH85Carrera 11-11-2022 01:34 PM

Large format 8x10 film is just hard to understand how much detail is captured unless you have worked with it. I used to shoot 8x10 transparencies of oil paintings so they could be scanned and reproduced. I would spend all day to get just one "perfect" transparency of a large paintings. To eliminate all the reflections, and have the color dead nuts was a challenge.

It is the equivalent of a digital camera with a several gigabyte file.

All of that is just not done now, it is "good enough" for a happy snap of poor quality.

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In early 1930, Allison manager N. H. Gilman sketched a design for a 559 kW (750-hp), 12-cylinder engine that would incorporate high-temperature glycol cooling and a turbosupercharger. The U.S. Navy contracted with Allison to supply the engine (known as the V-1710-A) for use on its airships. Originally known for modified Liberty engines and developing propeller reduction gears, this was the first of Allison’s own engines. Two years later the Army ordered a modified, more powerful version; redesigned during development and reintroduced in 1936 as the V-1710-C6.
Allison built more than 47,000 V-1710s in 57 versions. During World War II they powered various models of the Lockheed P-38, Curtiss P-40, Bell P-39 and P-63, and North American P-51. This artifact was the first Allison V-1710 engine to be flown. The Army Air Corps bought it in 1936 and flew it for 300 hours in the Consolidated XA-11A attack aircraft.

daepp 11-11-2022 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11843038)

Somebody call HeavyD!

masraum 11-11-2022 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 11844340)
Coney Island, New York City, photographed in 1903.

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11845451)
The quality of that image seems too good for 1903 to me.

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11845500)
8x10 film and a tripod mounted camera. HUGE film stock and the image is not enlarged, it is reduced. The color is likely new from this century, but the image quality of old film cameras was amazing.

Exactly what Glenn (lifetime photographer) said.

Most of the film that most of us have dealt with is 35mm. So the image is recorded on a spot not much bigger than a postage stamp. Most of the cameras back then used a piece of glass the size of a piece of notebook paper. The amount of detail in a photo with good light and no motion was amazing.

Go to https://www.shorpy.com/

Great site full of scans of historic negatives, many, these huge glass plates.

check out the detail in this one. Once you pull up the page, you can click the image and that should make it full size.


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random pics of rusty old tools and things in a "cave" in France.
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rockfan4 11-11-2022 03:30 PM

Film is remarkable, we gave up so much going to digital photos. I have a 4x5 of my mother sitting in a wheelchair, with a person standing behind her. Using a jeweler's loupe, I can read that woman's nametag.

This woman is obviously using a cell phone. Explain that.

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URY914 11-11-2022 03:51 PM

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masraum 11-11-2022 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 11845701)

Sheesh, stay outta NV!

Seems maybe nukes are bad for your health.

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GH85Carrera 11-11-2022 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rockfan4 (Post 11845668)
Film is remarkable, we gave up so much going to digital photos. I have a 4x5 of my mother sitting in a wheelchair, with a person standing behind her. Using a jeweler's loupe, I can read that woman's nametag.

This woman is obviously using a cell phone. Explain that.

Large format film can have remarkable detail, but it is cumbersome to carry around, and 20 years ago it was about 15 bucks per exposure! Every click of the shutter was crazy expensive when buying the film right from Kodak with a dealer's price and the processing done in house.

I wonder what a box of 10 sheets of 8x10 color transparency or negative film costs now? And then you have to pay for processing. And have a way to print it. We had two 10x10 enlargers. One was for up to 30x40 prints, the other was for up to 12 foot wide prints.

GH85Carrera 11-11-2022 06:35 PM

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Residents of the small town of Nethers, Virginia hanging out at the post office / general store. Photographed 1935 by Arthur Rothstein for the Farm Security Administration.

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jcwade 11-11-2022 08:28 PM

This woman is obviously using a cell phone. Explain that.

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I have recently seen several old pictures that were labeled to show people using cell phones or even a Roman burial carving claiming to show a woman using a laptop.
This is claimed as evidence for time travel.

But If I take my cell phone or computer out into the middle of nowhere, there is no service.

The Romans or Victorians did not have the infrastructure to support modern technology.
Stupid is as stupid does.

Evans, Marv 11-11-2022 09:29 PM

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In the early fifties, I lived in a small California town named Tehachapi - elevation 4K ft. During that time, they would announce nuclear tests and they happened usually around 6:00 AM. A couple of times I went out in the front yard and sat on the lawn to wait for the test to occur. When it happened, it would be a sharp, piercing, heavy sounding bang. It wasn't a clap, & didn't echoe. I as amazed I could hear it all that way from Nevada.

svandamme 11-11-2022 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 11845330)

I guess looking bored, is a look these days




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craigster59 11-12-2022 07:01 AM

The photo was taken from a FB page History In Color. Lots of cool recently colorized photos there. There's also a website...

People continue to browse Holland House Library after it was badly damaged during a German air raid on London, England. Photograph taken on the 23 October 1940.

Credit: color_byangelina on Instagram
historycolored.com


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Geronimo '74 11-12-2022 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11845871)
I guess looking bored, is a look these days

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Who cares?
She’d probably look great pinching out a loaf.
Besides do you smile constantly?

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svandamme 11-12-2022 09:08 AM

No I don't but I'm not a model either.

I just think that "serious" look as you call it, really doesn't do much for her.
Doesn't look serious to me , as in thinking serious or concerned or whatever , just looks bored to me..

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masraum 11-12-2022 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 11845330)

Beautiful young lady. My guess is that she's about 14 years old.
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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11845871)
I guess looking bored, is a look these days

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Whatever look the photographer asked for is the look she did, I'm sure.
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Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 11846094)
Who cares?
She’d probably look great pinching out a loaf.
Besides do you smile constantly?

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11846105)
No I don't but I'm not a model either.

I'm sure it's what the photographer wanted.

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the files are IN the computer!
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Tervuren 11-12-2022 09:20 AM

Some people neither dance, drink, or smoke.

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flatbutt 11-12-2022 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 11845330)

She does have a purdy mouth.

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Geronimo '74 11-12-2022 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11846115)
Beautiful young lady. My guess is that she's about 14 years old.]

Estelle Yves, born in 1993. Not 14 anymore.




Not so random
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craigster59 11-13-2022 06:58 AM

Women removing lice from children at Mangskogs socken, Värmland, Sweden 1912.

Credit: julius.colorization

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craigster59 11-13-2022 06:59 AM

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Jolly Amaranto 11-13-2022 12:40 PM

Prior to WWI in Imperial Russia, a photographer named Sergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii developed a process to take color images. He built a camera that could expose three black and white images simultaneously onto glass plates.
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Each image was exposed through a different filter, yellow, magenta and cyan.

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The resultant developed images could then be projected as slides through the same color filters and registered together on a screen to produce a color image. With modern computer technology these old images can be colorized and joined together to produce color images of century old scenes.
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Jolly Amaranto 11-13-2022 12:50 PM

A few of Sergei's photos.
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Jbabl 11-14-2022 09:31 AM

1975 Karmann Guia TC from Brazil:

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red 928 11-14-2022 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 11846133)
Estelle Yves, born in 1993. Not 14 anymore.

That pic is not of Madeleine Sofie?
hmm.

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Jbabl 11-14-2022 11:25 AM

Alexander Lippisch, and the Delta Wings
Many more German scientists came to the US as the exploitation program called "Project Paperclip" finally came to be implemented after a lot of red tape-
"War booty" as they called it included many supersonic wind tunnels brought to the US

Siegfried Gunther was a german designer who along with many more(about 6000)scientists, designers, engineers and technicians went to work in the Soviet Union instead. Some were offered more lucrative contracts, Gunther designed the Mig-15


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masraum 11-14-2022 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jbabl (Post 11847038)
Alexander Lippisch, and the Delta Wings
Many more German scientists came to the US as the exploitation program called "Project Paperclip" finally came to be implemented after a lot of red tape-
"War booty" as they called it included many supersonic wind tunnels brought to the US

Siegfried Gunther was a german designer who along with many more(about 6000)scientists, designers, engineers and technicians went to work in the Soviet Union instead. Some were offered more lucrative contracts, Gunther designed the Mig-15


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I wonder about how many of the 6k that went to Russia later thought that they'd have been better off in the US.

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What might be even worse is that we, for the most part, gave immunity to the people associated with Japanese Unit 731 in exchange for the results of their "research."

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GH85Carrera 11-14-2022 12:44 PM

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That is a contractor that certainly does NOT cut corners.

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TimBer 11-14-2022 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Evans, Marv (Post 11845842)
In the early fifties, I lived in a small California town named Tehachapi - elevation 4K ft. During that time, they would announce nuclear tests and they happened usually around 6:00 AM. A couple of times I went out in the front yard and sat on the lawn to wait for the test to occur. When it happened, it would be a sharp, piercing, heavy sounding bang. It wasn't a clap, & didn't echoe. I as amazed I could hear it all that way from Nevada.

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GH85Carrera 11-14-2022 01:20 PM

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masraum 11-14-2022 02:59 PM

Soba noodle delivery man Japan post WWII
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impressive oven
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1903 school in Texas in a German settlement
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5 old wooden hand planes
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Miss Hollywood checking out Jane Mansfield 1957
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weird pink goo in my birdbath.
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masraum 11-14-2022 03:01 PM

Some dude on facebook made this axe and auctioned it off to raise money for his buddy that has cancer. I think it went for $1200.

Yes, according to him, he made the whole axe, used S7 steel for the head and then a combination of things to make the handle.
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masraum 11-14-2022 03:14 PM

Houston around '69-71, I assume.
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masraum 11-14-2022 03:49 PM

Bring on the zombies! nearly 14" and 8#. Although I think it's more suited to turning round timber into square timber.
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hung my first axe. sharp enough to shave the hair on your arm or severe it.
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I had this one for about 3 weeks, but it's on its way back to England.
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In exchange the guy that wanted ^that^ one, is sending me this one (the one in the middle)
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and this one (sans handle).
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