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pmax 08-16-2020 11:23 AM

Forget the AC. Do you have power ?

https://www.kcra.com/article/california-blackouts-2020-pge-heat-wave-august-15/33614032#

California ISO declared a Stage 3 Electrical Emergency around 6:28 p.m. due to increased demand, as well as the loss of a 470-megawatt power plant.

They also cite the loss of nearly 1,000 megawatts of wind power.

As of 8:20 p.m., there were nearly 70,000 residents still without power, according to the California Office of Emergency Service dashboard.
At its peak, 67,401 customers in San Joaquin County experienced the outage.

pmax 08-16-2020 11:49 AM

Bay area

https://twitter.com/i/status/1294987565833965572

https://twitter.com/kayylachan/status/1294985346388594688

Out in the open.

hcoles 08-17-2020 04:38 PM

There are some new DIY mini-split systems on Amazon and I guess other places as well. Anyone have first hand experience? What if you need a leak fixed and a recharge, who will come and work on it? Thanks.

rwest 08-17-2020 06:33 PM

I have central air here in MN I would run it less except that I have a dog here; normally I would leave it off while at work, now it runs as needed.

We have a fair amount of humidity here, so to be comfortable you really need the AC or a dehumidifier.

I suppose if you wanted to be tough, but not super tough, you would really only need it a few months during the summer, we only have a few weeks were it doesn’t cool down into the low 70’s at night.

Most of us grew up without AC at home, work, school or cars, now we “demand” it everywhere.

speeder 08-17-2020 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwest (Post 10989595)
I have central air here in MN I would run it less except that I have a dog here; normally I would leave it off while at work, now it runs as needed.

We have a fair amount of humidity here, so to be comfortable you really need the AC or a dehumidifier.

I suppose if you wanted to be tough, but not super tough, you would really only need it a few months during the summer, we only have a few weeks were it doesn’t cool down into the low 70’s at night.

Most of us grew up without AC at home, work, school or cars, now we “demand” it everywhere.

You are correct, of course but it’s also getting hotter every year. Our part of the country is having a nice summer, (I’m in WI), everywhere else is getting cooked. Every year for the last 15 years or more has been the hottest year ever. Death Valley recorded 130 deg. yesterday, thought to be the hottest temp on earth since recorded weather. :eek:

Baz 08-17-2020 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcoles (Post 10989440)
There are some new DIY mini-split systems on Amazon and I guess other places as well. Anyone have first hand experience? What if you need a leak fixed and a recharge, who will come and work on it? Thanks.

I doubt you would have any problems getting a repair done by most any local HVAC company.

FWIW, I have been known to enlist the help of various HVAC techs who moonlight on the side for extra cash. They don't do it on their employer's time mind you. After hours and/or weekends. I did this a couple times and it worked out great for both parties. Obviously there are limitations in going this route.

Saadi996tt 08-17-2020 08:53 PM

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...9f35740125.png

The summers are brutal here in central California and we’re used to running the air conditioning 7-8 months out of the year. Stay cool everyone...


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look 171 08-17-2020 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcoles (Post 10989440)
There are some new DIY mini-split systems on Amazon and I guess other places as well. Anyone have first hand experience? What if you need a leak fixed and a recharge, who will come and work on it? Thanks.

Baz is correct. I want to install one for the family room where most of us gather. When I remodeled this section of the house, I was being cute and installed a whole wall full of very large windows big sliding doors and a 4'x4' sky light. Luckily, they have extremely good Low E ratings. On the extremely hot days where the temp is over 103-104, that room can use a little extra help if all of us are in there with the kids electronics in full swing. I am waiting for the solar technology to run those get a bit better in a couple years so I can add one in that room. Screw Socal Edison.

Have you seen the blower that mount between the rafters instead of the big box on the wall? Its a little more money, but it sure looks so much better.

mattdavis11 08-17-2020 09:30 PM

We dipped to 68F this evening, now it's 78F, but it was as high as 103F.

AC is a must here. Texas, east of SAT. No insulation, central air, and 3 window units. 70 inside now!

ckelly78z 08-18-2020 01:32 AM

I also have one of the LG portable A/C units that does an OK job of cooling the downstairs, but creates a large volume of water that must be dumped every few hours.

For the last 2 Summer's my wife has worked/stayed in our 32' travel trailer in our back yard (she works from home) where it is comfortably air conditioned. I have no problem with an 80* house, and actually prefer it it to A/C. I also make a daily trek to our backyard pool to cool off.

We will most likely get a wall mounted mini-split (or two) before we retire. The furnace is water baseboard heat from a boiler, but we use our woodstove almost exclusively.

red-beard 08-18-2020 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10989643)
I doubt you would have any problems getting a repair done by most any local HVAC company.

FWIW, I have been known to enlist the help of various HVAC techs who moonlight on the side for extra cash. They don't do it on their employer's time mind you. After hours and/or weekends. I did this a couple times and it worked out great for both parties. Obviously there are limitations in going this route.

We found an apartment complex "super" who moonlights as an A/C technician. He installed two condenser units for us in 2011.

I always keep spare contactor and capacitors for our units. I even salvaged them from my dead units, since some were only a month old. I also kept the fan motors.

3rd_gear_Ted 08-18-2020 05:59 AM

Here in SoCal, the San Onofre debacle is being felt.
The idiots in management, the stupid engineering group & the operations folks ran a newly replaced steam generator into a failure mode due to excess vibration.
It should be renamed the "Dolly Parton" monument.

My black plaster pool is @ 88 degrees

vash 08-18-2020 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saadi996tt (Post 10989708)
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...9f35740125.png

The summers are brutal here in central California and we’re used to running the air conditioning 7-8 months out of the year. Stay cool everyone...


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wow...i would grow rice in my armpits at those temps.

JackDidley 08-18-2020 08:03 AM

We are having a non-heatwave. Usually in the 90*s in August and we are having low 80*s this week. :D:D Probably be 100* next week.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...amingdevil.gif

Tidybuoy 08-18-2020 08:26 AM

Yes, I have A/C.

Ohh goodie, the cooling trend starts tomorrow :)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1597767908.jpg

But it's a dry heat..

Evans, Marv 08-18-2020 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tidybuoy (Post 10990238)
Yes, I have A/C.

Ohh goodie, the cooling trend starts tomorrow :)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1597767908.jpg

But it's a dry heat..

Sent the Bakersfield weather to my H.S. buddy living in Clovis, since his daughter & family live in Bakersfield. He told me about the 111 temp. today in Clovis.

Scott Douglas 08-18-2020 12:55 PM

We're sitting at 105* right now in the backyard.

Scott Douglas 08-18-2020 12:59 PM

Might have had a short power outage as I see the clock is off a little.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1597784336.JPG

Not exactly a dry heat either.:rolleyes:

red-beard 08-18-2020 01:17 PM

82F and 53% RH is a little bit high for me. I'm rocking 76 and 48% RH WITH a ceiling fan!

GH85Carrera 08-18-2020 01:28 PM

Central Oklahoma has been below normal temperatures all summer. Of course normal for this time of year is low to mid 90s. It has been very high humidity this summer.

OK, use your geezer voice: I never went to a single school with air conditioning. That includes 11 different schools from 1st to 12th grade. We did not have an air conditioned house until I was in 11th grade. End Geezer voice.

When I was looking for my first house I told the real estate agents, I had to have a garage, and central AC, don't show me anything else. This was in the early 1980s so no internet.

Scott Douglas 08-18-2020 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 10990737)
82F and 53% RH is a little bit high for me. I'm rocking 76 and 48% RH WITH a ceiling fan!

That temp gauge is located in a corner of the room that doesn't get much air circulation. Our thermostat is set for 78*, but it's way across the room from what is pictured.
Compared to outside (I was just out washing screens for when we do open up later this afternoon/evening) it is nice and cool. It's still 90* and 55% out there.:(

Racerbvd 08-18-2020 03:39 PM

Living in Florida, it is a necessity.

pmax 08-18-2020 07:43 PM

3rd world here we go !

https://i2.wp.com/www.mercurynews.co...age-lookup.jpg

Most outages are 1 to 2 hours, PG&E says. If you have recently had your power shut off as part of a rolling blackout — the last one was Friday and affected about 220,000 customers in Monterey, Santa Cruz, Stockton and other places, you are unlikely to be shut down in back-to-back events under PG&E’s system. Hence the name “rotating” blackouts. The idea is for everybody to share the pain, although there are exceptions for critical infrastructure like hospitals and police stations.

hcoles 08-19-2020 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 10989735)
Baz is correct. I want to install one for the family room where most of us gather. When I remodeled this section of the house, I was being cute and installed a whole wall full of very large windows big sliding doors and a 4'x4' sky light. Luckily, they have extremely good Low E ratings. On the extremely hot days where the temp is over 103-104, that room can use a little extra help if all of us are in there with the kids electronics in full swing. I am waiting for the solar technology to run those get a bit better in a couple years so I can add one in that room. Screw Socal Edison.

Have you seen the blower that mount between the rafters instead of the big box on the wall? Its a little more money, but it sure looks so much better.

I don't think I've seen blower-between-the-rafters type send a link or a bit more info. e.g. make and model and I'll take a look. Thanks.

red-beard 08-19-2020 05:12 AM

https://amazon.com/LG-Cassette-Ductless-Mini-Split-Inverter/dp/B07N8HXXF9/

Most of the systems with a ceiling cassette have multiple heads.

GH85Carrera 08-19-2020 05:18 AM

Whooo Hooo, it is 66 degrees here this morning, and the humidity is low again.

There was an article in the paper about how energy costs are lower this year as the price of natural gas is lower and more wind farms are coming on-line in the Southwest power pool.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1597843035.jpg

billybek 08-19-2020 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcoles (Post 10991419)
I don't think I've seen blower-between-the-rafters type send a link or a bit more info. e.g. make and model and I'll take a look. Thanks.

https://www.mitsubishicomfort.com/products/indoor-units/recessed-ceiling-cassettes-and-ceiling-suspended

3rd_gear_Ted 08-19-2020 06:04 AM

The "Desert Bar" in Parker AZ has a complete home built around a central evaporative cooling tower. The cool breeze in the place is amazing, biggest swamp cooler I've ever seen and it works

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hcoles 08-19-2020 06:05 AM

Okay, got it. In the ceiling is a clean look. Just need to get the condensate out. I think some have a pump for that. Also, I wonder about servicing - maybe they can be pulled down to see what is going on if needed. Thanks for the info. and links.

Cajundaddy 08-19-2020 06:12 AM

107F yesterday at ONT airport and the heat index was 115, ugg. Looks like temps will be at or near 100F and significant humidity for the rest of the month in the IE. Yippee! We had a pretty nice mild July but Aug is looking like a scorcher. The A/C in my house is old and inefficient but is clean, tuned and working well.

billybek 08-19-2020 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by hcoles (Post 10991557)
Okay, got it. In the ceiling is a clean look. Just need to get the condensate out. I think some have a pump for that. Also, I wonder about servicing - maybe they can be pulled down to see what is going on if needed. Thanks for the info. and links.

I wondered about condensate removal too. I remember the old Liebert ceiling space units had condensate pumps on them that required periodic cleaning and service.

Still, the ceiling "cassette" is a nice clean look. I also like the picture frame mini splits from LG. Not sure if they are still available.


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