Yep, only the Soviets soft landed a probe on Venus. The probe lasted 127 minutes.

The EU has done several neat missions. Non sent remote vehicles to Mars successfully. NASA has failed more than once. Mars is hard.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/oct/20/total-recall-of-unsuccessful-mars-lander-schiaparelli-exomars

Multiple probes.

Surface temperature 867F, pressure ~70 bar, atmosphere mostly carbon dioxide, with clouds of sulfuric acid droplets. Really nice place.

And you think a straight concrete built dam, can deform like that, as if it was made out of rubber?

These rumors started already in 2019, you're just looking at the 2020 edition
But the dam is still there.


I'de take it way more seriously if anybody could show me 1 picture of the dam overpass, looking at the crossing.

IF it's that bad as the satelite would lead us to belive.. it would have long collapsed
AND it would be plain visible at ground level that the bloody thing shifted

So show me the picture of the buckled dam
Surely that's not an unreasonable thing to ask ?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1607524908.jpg


Or maybe this Corona was designed to prevent people from wanting to go there and snap up the picture that would prove the buckling claim?

beagle 2 succesfully landed.. confirmed
it just didn't deploy it's stuff after landing to communicate back home and report the landing

I don't know why the sent a damn beagle. They are hard headed and rarely respond to commands. A shepherd would have been a better choice.

+1
or a Border Collie
they will run all day and are smart as a tack
if it finds any Martians , it will herd em around whatever obstacle

So it made it to the ground and died. Or did it just smash into the surface and make an new impact crater.

I love the fact that the EU, China and Russia, Japan and Israel are sending scientific probes to other off world locations. It does not need to be all USA. It is much like the F1 racing in recent years, Mercedes is the clear and undisputed leader. No other team is close to the same level. Budget, and hiring the top engineers is the only real difference. No magic, just the best engineering.

If you go to the Smithsonian and look at the inside of the Apollo space craft now 50+ years later you can see how crude and low tech they are, yet at the time they were the literal peak of engineering. The very first user programmable computer that accepted push button commands and so many technologies invented just for the task at hand.

Russia is not doing a ****. But SU did some very impressive things, landing on surface of Venus is one of them. EU is also mostly building probes, as launch capability is getting much cheaper nowadays thanks to SpaceX.

Ariane project should be closed and restarted.

it landed , did not crash.
just didn't deploy it's comms and solar array

Respectfully,
Even if you could get far enough out to be free from any gravitational forces whatsoever, building a craft that could house a smelter to make the bearings, and getting it out there, and bringing the bearings back, would result in them costing several $ bazillion each.
I am curious how they would perfectly control the finished diameter of the solidified blob, and how a zero G environment would affect making a bearing race, inner or outer.
I must be missing something.


BTW, chuck fina.

They have to do SOMETHING with all that technology they stole.

sounds like Texas

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https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/07/20/floods-force-china-blow-up-dam-protect-worlds-largest-hydroelectric-plant/

I am not sure what I just saw. I was watching the Space x launch live. It launched fine. Engines shut off. It started to fall back down and tipped over and started to glide back in. As it prepared to land it stood back up on end and then crashed with a HUGE explosion. It looked to me it waited too late to start landing procedure. When the smoke cleared there was nothing left. The flight control guy said something like. "Good flight."

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It blowed up! It blowed up Real Good!

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as long as they don't mess up the state park

Amazing, even the roads ON LAND are deformed. (bottom left)
and Dam pushed in when there's land behind it (top right)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1607592119.jpg

Show me 1 picture at ground level, if the deformation is that big, surely it's visible with the naked eye at ground level
Until I see the deformation at ground level, I'm calling that chitty satelite picture BS and you can take the chitty wok to the chitty wall and tell the chitty mongolians to get bent
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1607592443.jpg

Maybe the japs sent Godzilla over to push things around belows the water.

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So if it can't relay and information due to no communication and they get no data from the surface because the solar cells did not deploy, it is a point of pride that it did not just auger in and smash to bits.

https://www.cnet.com/news/dogged-beagle-2-probe-found-on-mars-after-a-decade-of-mystery/

NASA has pictures of Beagle2 on the surface from orbit.