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recycled sixtie 12-28-2020 05:08 AM

How do you handle allergies?
 
Do you just live with them or do you go see a med specialist? I have allergies from dust from the furnace vents(I change the furnace filter often), red wine and some over the counter meds.

For those that go to a doctor for allergies does the doc give you meds? If so do they work? Or do you just avoid what gives you allergies?

Fast Freddy 944 12-28-2020 05:18 AM

Nose spray, mucinex..

wswartzwel 12-28-2020 05:23 AM

saline nasal flush kit. Comes with little salt packets and a squeeze bottle. I started flushing my sinuses once a week, and no longer have to see my doctor once a month for meds.

avi8torny 12-28-2020 05:27 AM

Changed my diet, no sugars, no grains. Food and environmental allergies went POOF! GONE!

GH85Carrera 12-28-2020 05:44 AM

I had HORRIBLE allergies as a kid, and into adulthood. Finally I went to the Oklahoma Allergy Clinic. They cured me of 99% of my allergies. I took two shots per week, for 20 years. Lots of needles, but my allergies are essentially gone.

I used to really suffer in the spring and summer when the trees were blooming and pollinating. Pecan trees were the worst. That is virtually gone. If I mow the yard in spring and the trees and plants are in full allergy mode, I might get a day of discomfort at most, but some pills and Flonase fix that. It is over the next day.

So if you can endure 2 shots per week (104 per year) x 20 years or so (over 2,000 shots for me) you too can have much better breathing.

cabmandone 12-28-2020 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 11157633)
Do you just live with them or do you go see a med specialist? I have allergies from dust from the furnace vents(I change the furnace filter often), red wine and some over the counter meds.

For those that go to a doctor for allergies does the doc give you meds? If so do they work? Or do you just avoid what gives you allergies?

I used to get shots, they never did much for me. I just switch up nasal sprays (Flonase, Nasocort etc) and take a cetirizine when my sinuses start bothering me. I was told by my allergist to change up sprays but I don't recall the reasoning behind it.

Something else I use is a saline rinse with a Navage. I used to just inhale the saltwater mixture until I could feel it running down the back of my throat. I called it waterboarding myself.

Bob Kontak 12-28-2020 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11157706)
I used to get shots, they never did much for me.

I got the shots in Anchorage. 87-92 They helped.

Now when the irritation hits I get the behind the counter stuff with the decongestant in it. Claritan D, I think.

jcommin 12-28-2020 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fast Freddy 944 (Post 11157648)
Nose spray, mucinex..

Yep - mine are mostly seasonal (late Aug, Sept, Oct). Anything earlier (May, June), I know it will be a long allergy season. I will say this year, my symptoms were mild. Not to get all stupid, I'm wondering if wearing a mask and hunkering down due to Covid actually helped.

cabmandone 12-28-2020 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 11157762)
I got the shots in Anchorage. 87-92 They helped.

Now when the irritation hits I get the behind the counter stuff with the decongestant in it. Claritan D, I think.

I used to love that stuff! Had a terrible sinus infection during hunting season. My sinuses were so jacked up my teeth hurt. Told the doc, you gotta give me something to get my head cleared up. If I pull the trigger on my shotgun, my head will explode!. He prescribed Claritin D. I swear they've weakened that stuff though. Last time I used it, it wasn't as effective at clearing the congestion.

flatbutt 12-28-2020 07:43 AM

As a kid I got epinephrine shots but I outgrew most of my allergies. Later on I got tested so now I know what triggers them and I can treat with OTC meds.

livi 12-28-2020 07:54 AM

Allergy is one of my specialities. With children of course, but same principals apply. As others have indicated immune therapy is often very successful and has been a treatment in the form of injections for a hundred years. We now have the same treatment in tablett form that you can take at home. Three years treatment and most people will get much better, some complete relief. Its now available commercially for some type of grass, birch and mite.
So if by dust you mean mite allergy I would not hesitate to ask for that at your doctors.
In my opinion a very good treatment.

GH85Carrera 12-28-2020 08:48 AM

My shots really did not do much for me the first 5 years. It was 7 or 8 years before I noticed a real change. After 20 years I was to the point of no more improvement. It was not a quick fix.

Cajundaddy 12-28-2020 08:55 AM

Never noticed allergies as a kid but over the last 10 years cat dander, some dogs, and some minor hay fever bothers me seasonally. I take loratadine as needed for symptoms and it works well. No major life threatening attacks.

livi 12-28-2020 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11157920)
My shots really did not do much for me the first 5 years. It was 7 or 8 years before I noticed a real change. After 20 years I was to the point of no more improvement. It was not a quick fix.

I venture a guess your shots were yearly cortisone. Not immune therapy. A whole different concept. The cortisone will dampen the allergic reaction over the season, but you still have your allergy. Immune therapy is based on administering the actual allergen protein you are allergic to, regularly during three years. This will basically make your immune system develop a tolerance, an acceptance if you will, of the allergen. Down regulate your sensitivity toward the allergen.

GH85Carrera 12-28-2020 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by livi (Post 11157958)
I venture a guess your shots were yearly cortisone. Not immune therapy. A whole different concept. The cortisone will dampen the allergic reaction over the season, but you still have your allergy. Immune therapy is based on administering the actual allergen protein you are allergic to, regularly during three years. This will basically make your immune system develop a tolerance, an acceptance if you will, of the allergen. Down regulate your sensitivity toward the allergen.

Nope, they were all the stuff I was allergic to. Two shots per week. I had to go in every 5 years and the would test me again. Lots of fun having little needle sticks of stuff that makes me react. It was like having my arm covered in mosquito bites, chigger bites and bee stings. They would take that result, and brew up a special dose of torture shots for me.

Right after every test, they would ramp up the amount of my allergens in the shot so it really ached for a couple of days, and then it was one day of feeling normal and then time for another shot. The last 5 or 6 years I had very little reaction to the shots. That was when we decided it was to the point of no more advantage to continue.

They usually did give me a cortisone shot after all the testing to make my arm feel better faster. I am in a textbook somewhere, or more accurately a picture of my body's reaction to pecan pollen. One of the first tests the doc scratched my arm with the allergen and within seconds said wow, turned to his nurse and told her to go get Dr. somebody, and to bring the camera. The second doc came in, looked at the spot and said oh wow! and started taking pictures. It was a "textbook, classic" severe reaction to an allergen. I don't get any royalties. ;)

livi 12-28-2020 11:26 AM

That sounds like it may have been a while ago. The method was in many ways rather primitive back then. Even now there are individuals that doesn´t seem to have a real good effect from the treatment but its rather rare. Fortunately with the substance in tablett form its also a walk in the park, basically with almost no allergic side effects.

Sooner or later 12-28-2020 11:35 AM

When I was a kid (mid 1960's) I was very allergic to poison ivy. I would have terrible cases.

It got to the point I had to get shots. My memory is foggy on the subject but at one point it seems they gave me a "preventative" shot.

Now, I am not nearly as allergic and only get very mild cases. Don't know why.

RWebb 12-28-2020 11:43 AM

livi - I thought the tablets only covered grass allergies

do they now have them for other allergies?

cabmandone 12-28-2020 01:22 PM

IDK about others but my shots were of the stuff I reacted to in the skin test.... which was about everything.

David 12-28-2020 01:46 PM

My wife is (mildly) allergic to everything. She's started taking oral drop allergy therapy which are not covered by insurance while shots are covered. I'm not going there. She just started so no results yet.

I'm just now starting to realize I have allergies deep into my middle age. I always thought my colds just lasted a long time ;)

My aunt, who's a bee keeper, says you should eat honey from within 50 miles every day to help with all the local pollens. I might try that. How is honey in a margarita?

Bob Kontak 12-28-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11158274)
IDK about others but my shots were of the stuff I reacted to in the skin test.... which was about everything.

I got a general steroid shot for allergies in Anchorage. No reaction grid tests. That was 30+ years ago. Maybe the shots I rcvd were more of a shotgun approach?

I do remember vividly (1986) the one and only time jogging outside in the late summer there when Fireweed was in full bloom. With sweat, allowing the cooties to stick, every bit of exposed skin had welts and my eyeballs had bumps on them. It was hideous and frightening.

I probably don't have as severe a reaction today as you do. Just lethargy in late spring and early summer. The Claritan D takes some of the sleepiness away.

cabmandone 12-28-2020 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 11158329)
I got a general steroid shot for allergies in Anchorage. No reaction grid tests. That was 30+ years ago. Maybe the shots I rcvd were more of a shotgun approach?

I do remember vividly (1986) the one and only time jogging outside in the late summer there when Fireweed was in full bloom. With sweat, allowing the cooties to stick, every bit of exposed skin had welts and my eyeballs had bumps on them. It was hideous and frightening.

I probably don't have as severe a reaction today as you do. Just lethargy in late spring and early summer. The Claritan D takes some of the sleepiness away.

If I'm not mistaken that's because it's loaded with Pseudoephedrine. My reaction is typically just sinus congestion. Sometimes it feels like someone is trying to poke my eyes our from the inside. But otherwise not all bad.

GH85Carrera 12-28-2020 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by livi (Post 11158134)
That sounds like it may have been a while ago. The method was in many ways rather primitive back then. Even now there are individuals that doesn´t seem to have a real good effect from the treatment but its rather rare. Fortunately with the substance in tablett form its also a walk in the park, basically with almost no allergic side effects.


Look up the Oklahoma Allergy Clinic. I would bet money they still do the shots. They are one of the large allergy clinics. They sure cured my allergies.

Crowbob 12-28-2020 05:18 PM

I pretty much was allergy-free until maybe 1977 or so. That summer began my nasal congestion almost every day since. Severe. I did every OTC drug known just to survive. Brain fog, headaches, sleepless nights, watery eyes, fatigue. You name it. I did shots...nada. I did the flush thing...nada. I could treat the symptoms enough to function but was miserable. Like suicidal miserable. Did the cortisone nasal spray to keep the inflammation almost manageable.

Then maybe four years ago...poof, gone. No meds. No symptoms, no allergies. They vanished as quickly and as suddenly as they appeared.

No changes in my diet or activities, or anything. I have no explanation for it.

wdfifteen 12-28-2020 05:37 PM

We both developed allergies when we move out here into the sticks. Dr prescribed Montelukast and it has been a godsend.

livi 12-29-2020 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 11158150)
livi - I thought the tablets only covered grass allergies

do they now have them for other allergies?

Yes. Grass came first in tablett form, some twenty years ago. Then mite a couple of years now and last winter birch.

livi 12-29-2020 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11158488)
Look up the Oklahoma Allergy Clinic. I would bet money they still do the shots. They are one of the large allergy clinics. They sure cured my allergies.

We still use shots as an alternative but much less now when we have the major allergens in tabletts. Particularly with children.

cabmandone 12-29-2020 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11158582)
We both developed allergies when we move out here into the sticks. Dr prescribed Montelukast and it has been a godsend.

Allergic to fresh country air! :D

GH85Carrera 12-29-2020 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by livi (Post 11158835)
We still use shots as an alternative but much less now when we have the major allergens in tabletts. Particularly with children.

The way they explained it to me was they do the testing and find precisely what a person is allergic to, and how much. The nurse did the small injections of allergens, and then 20 minutes later the doctor came in, and "read" the reactions and rated them from none to severe or extreme. They then concocted a shot just for me. For the first year I had to go to their office and get the injections to make sure I did not have a severe reaction. After that, my wife gave me the shots with a insulin syringe, in the arm. They would mail be a package with 5 weeks worth of shots. We kept them in the fridge.

The testing was really uncomfortable with all the injections to stuff I was allergic to. The good news for me, I was not allergic to any food. I was super allergic to pecan pollen, and I always hated pecans as a kid before I knew I was allergic to them. If I eat some pecans in a cake or cookie it is at best like getting the sniffles for a while, at worst diarrhea. I avoid pecans, but other nuts are fine.


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