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3rd_gear_Ted 12-28-2020 09:09 AM

NO tip after $15,000,000 payout
 
I was there, the 27 year old dude didn't give any tip to anyone. Got a check for $600K and split town. Most times big winners get a suggestion to pay employees for a day off.
First time that $1.00 machine hit in 21 years.
I always ask which mega buck hasn't paid in a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68cTknOcoEQ

Baz 12-28-2020 09:14 AM

His call.

Eventually Karma catches up to everyone......

sammyg2 12-28-2020 09:22 AM

No tips is right.
I don't understand the mentality of some people who think that the first thing you must do when you come into large sums of money, is to GET RID OF IT.

Porsche-O-Phile 12-28-2020 09:32 AM

The expectation of tips is ridiculous. They should be considered a rare and special gift if and when they’re ever bestowed on someone.

This is one of the many reasons I love spending time in Europe - they “get it”. Service jobs pay real, fair wages and tips are not expected at all - even considered a bit gauche.

If we paid service people what they were really worth for doing their jobs then there’d be no need to tip - or to get them to agree to basically slave labor wages with the promise that “oh you’ll make it up in tips” (from someone else - meaning “I’m too cheap to pay you and / or don’t value you at all”).

The system in the USA is bass-ackwards and reinforces this silliness.

That said, I get really annoyed that EVERYONE has a tip jar on their counter nowadays. Sorry and maybe I’m a cheapskate but NO!!! I’m not tipping you for just doing your job. If you are genuinely exceptional or in feeling charitable, sure... but it’s a big turn-off to me as a customer seeing people EXPECT it just for doing their jobs.

tabs 12-28-2020 10:23 AM

If u are playing poker for a profit you can not afford to tip a dealer every time you win a pot. They do not share in your losses.

Ronbo 12-28-2020 10:31 AM

If I won that jackpot it honestly would never occur to me that I should tip anybody.


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Seahawk 12-28-2020 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabs (Post 11158038)
If u are playing poker for a profit you can not afford to tip a dealer every time you win a pot. They do not share in your losses.

Perfect.

If the video is correct, is he supposed to tip the f'ing machine?

That said, having worked for tips, I am a bit too generous. I tip at the drive thru for the LOG.

biosurfer1 12-28-2020 10:45 AM

I worked for tips all through college and I still think they make no sense and wish they would go away.

Tip a casino worker after a large win...for what? And how many? Every worker within eye shot of the win? Every employee at the casino? Does everyone get the same amount? How much should they get (answer: doesnt matter, it won't be enough)

All of these questions are great examples and what a stupid system tipping is.

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Originally Posted by 3rd_gear_Ted (Post 11157940)
Most times big winners get a suggestion to pay employees for a day off.

This is my favorite...suggested by who? Let me guess, the people who want to be paid for a day off that had NOTHING to do with the win?

masraum 12-28-2020 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronbo (Post 11158051)
If I won that jackpot it honestly would never occur to me that I should tip anybody.


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It would not normally occur to me either. It would DEFINITELY not occur to me if I was as amped up as I imagine I would be if I won 15 MILLION dollars.

If I won 15 million dollars, I think I'd be in shock and unlikely to remember lots of stuff.

Zeke 12-28-2020 10:58 AM

Depends. I worked in LV for a short year and met some guys that had day jobs but gambled for profit at night and on weekends. First thing they would do is find one of those slot machine carousels with a change girl in the ring. They'd hand her a 20 when they first got there and she'd direct them from that point on as long as they 'tithed' the winnings at about 10%.

These guys were not inexperienced. They told me of regular trips to Reno when they were in their 20's (that would put the date in the 70's) where they stopped at every little corner business that had slots. While one distracted a clerk or employee within viewing distance the other would use a "dangler," a quarter tied to a thin wire to continuously trip the machine for another pull. As soon as they made a payout they would quietly book out of there. Some pots were pretty good and some were a few bucks. But they never lost so it adds up.

The machines got smarter and game over. These out-of-the-way businesses usually had older slots. The casino slots went digital at the same time games like Atari cane out. And the coin receivers were much improved.

One way to get your ass kicked real good is to try some siht in a casino. So they just 'bought' the info on hot slots. They're out there.

I believe NV gaming laws prevent slots to be linked in a network which is easily possible. But manual adjustments are legal. I was once in a casino in the morning just before a "slot tournament" and they began to rope off a section of slots. Next in was a tech who opened each machine and changed out the EPROM. This was in '94.

biosurfer1 12-28-2020 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11158090)

I believe NV gaming laws prevent slots to be linked in a network which is easily possible.

Megabucks is a Nevada state-wide slot jackpot network that is owned and run by the slot machine company, International Game Technology (IGT)

stevej37 12-28-2020 11:14 AM

If it was me...I would only have one thing on my mind.
gtfo of there with my money and life.

3rd_gear_Ted 12-28-2020 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by biosurfer1 (Post 11158072)
I worked for tips all through college and I still think they make no sense and wish they would go away.

Tip a casino worker after a large win...for what? And how many? Every worker within eye shot of the win? Every employee at the casino? Does everyone get the same amount? How much should they get (answer: doesnt matter, it won't be enough)

All of these questions are great examples and what a stupid system tipping is.



This is my favorite...suggested by who? Let me guess, the people who want to be paid for a day off that had NOTHING to do with the win?

The Attorney & Accountant you just had to hire would advise doing so as a deduction for the cost of business. (more in your cheap pocket BTW) Not to mention the goodwill your face would have in in the future instead of a world class douche bag.

Vegas was built on "tips" in more ways than one. If you don't understand that, stay home.

BTW,
The European gratuity cultures are based on a personal network connection being established in exchange for a service or commodity in short supply. This is a reflection of lack of supply in the supply / demand equation.
This grey aspect of the culture is what causes the corruption & patrimony in all those countries.

But since it seems socialistic , you don't like it

Norm K 12-28-2020 11:44 AM

For what would he have been tipping?

Did someone assist him in some way?

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biosurfer1 12-28-2020 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3rd_gear_Ted (Post 11158122)
The Attorney & Accountant you just had to hire would advise doing so as a deduction for the cost of business. (more in your cheap pocket BTW) Not to mention the goodwill your face would have in in the future instead of a world class douche bag.

No, attorney's and accountants do not advise giving away money for nothing. If yours does, fire them immediately. Maybe a charity write off, but handing over money to some guy who happened to be working near you when you won money? GTFO.

LOL... funny you mention this person's "face" having goodwill. Did you even look at the photo he took? I guess faceless "Kevin" wont have all that goodwill you talk about.

I notice you can't answer any of the questions I posed...wonder why?

Sooner or later 12-28-2020 12:06 PM

Kevin, whose identity was being protected for safety reasons, said he divides his time between Las Vegas and Alaska.

He told Boyd Gaming that he intends to use his winnings to support his business and "pay it forward."

Zeke 12-28-2020 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biosurfer1 (Post 11158104)
Megabucks is a Nevada state-wide slot jackpot network that is owned and run by the slot machine company, International Game Technology (IGT)

That's not the same as having all the floor slots all controlled by a server. And since my last post I have been reading about linked slots. It's complicated for sure. Different states, Indian reservations and statewide or states-wide linking.

The old random number generator controlled machines are all but gone. However, casino wide control by a central computer has its red flags. Apparently the people who control the payout real time are actually capable of reducing a single machine's payout if a whale is playing. That WILL bring trouble from the gaming commision.

And it goes on....

So, I stand corrected that slots are not linked. They are, by groups, by more than one casino, or the state itself. High and low payout limits are changed hourly to weekly.

stevej37 12-28-2020 12:33 PM

I play Megabucks every morning on my laptop.

herr_oberst 12-28-2020 01:47 PM

If anyone deserves a tip it would be whoever was playing that machine before "Kevin" sat down

Baz 12-28-2020 01:48 PM

I tip my g-men every year. (garbage men)

I give them tips throughout the year plus a card and tip this time of year.

I wouldn't do this if they didn't take care of me - which they do. This includes solid waste & yard waste - which for a gardener like me amounts to a LOT throughout the year.

I was chatting with a client and when this subject came up he said "I never would have thought of that."

Now in this case - the thread subject - I'm sure at some point someone at the casino must have helped this chap in some way. If so, I would happily give him a tip. Doesn't have to be a million dollars.....even $20 would at least be better than nothing I guess.

Another story..... My late Aunt Bobbie when asked to donate to a particular cause would always give $5. No more - no less. $5. Her policy. Gotta love it.....


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