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Bob Kontak 01-27-2021 10:59 AM

Iridium spark plugs - Change a little early or not?
 
2014 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L naturally aspirated engine.

95k miles on clock but plug change interval is 105k.

If all else is ok, will I gain anything by changing early?

$16 each retail price at Advance Auto so it is a wee bit of coin for her plus my beer money to change out (sister in law-way hawt)

fastfredracing 01-27-2021 11:02 AM

It will save you from having to do it in 8 months. Sure cannot hurt. I think its always nice to catch them before they start causing missfires, and early coil failure .
We need pictures to be sure though .

Nostril Cheese 01-27-2021 11:18 AM

As fred said, it wont hurt. The main benefit to iridium plugs is longevity.

One thing you may want to research is using a different type of plug with a slightly larger gap. I had a Ranger with the Duratec engine.. used iridium plugs rom the factory. $20 per plug.

I ended up trying a copper core and gapped it a bit larger. There was a noticeable difference in pickup and no change in MPG. Might be something to look into. Only downside is having to change them every 10K miles.

Bob Kontak 01-27-2021 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese (Post 11200127)
I ended up trying a copper core and gapped it a bit larger. There was a noticeable difference in pickup and no change in MPG. Might be something to look into. Only downside is having to change them every 10K miles.

Funny you should mention that. Slight idle roughness on a 2014 Honda CR-V on Monday. Got my search on and forum guys were bee-otching about how the gap from the factory was a few thousandths smaller than the recommended 0.044". Opening them up to 0.045" from 0.042" made a difference they said AND the difference noted was exactly as you said. Performance up, fuel mileage static.

I did that and it noticeably smoothed out and owner agreed. I did clean off the MAF as well so I can't quite take that to the bank as a certainty but I am now aware.

Bob Kontak 01-27-2021 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 11200102)
We need pictures to be sure though .

If I'm lyin, I'm dyin'. You have to guess, tho. :) 55-ish in the pic and she's the youngest.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1611781301.jpg

sammyg2 01-27-2021 12:30 PM

They last a really long time.
Prolly won't notice a bit of difference.
Iridium plugs I mean, Not women.

cabmandone 01-27-2021 12:39 PM

Changed them out on my Rav4 at 97000 and they still gapped the same as the new. Same thing on my 2010 Ford Fusion. But it can't hurt.

If she's a Browns fan... charge her double! :D

Bob Kontak 01-27-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 11200242)
They last a really long time.
Prolly won't notice a bit of difference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11200252)
Changed them out on my Rav4 at 97000 and they still gapped the same as the new. Same thing on my 2010 Ford Fusion. But it can't hurt.

Agree. The gaps remain virtually unchanged with those plugs. What FF says about stressing coil packs as the plugs age makes sense.

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11200252)
If she's a Browns fan... charge her double! :D

I won't charge her a dime for labor. She hangs at the shop while I do the wrenching. Let's just call it select friends and family pricing.

cabmandone 01-27-2021 01:34 PM

I went too long on my Taurus X and you could definitely tell. Amazes me the computer never registered a misfire. The car would chug like the transmission was searching for a gear. I changed plugs and BAM! problem solved. You could see one cylinder was misfiring.

What's it take to make this select group? I've got an engine drop/ trans swap coming up on the 911.

Bob Kontak 01-27-2021 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11200334)
What's it take to make this select group? I've got an engine drop/ trans swap coming up on the 911.

Beer for Ohio PP members. :)

cabmandone 01-27-2021 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 11200357)
Beer for Ohio PP members. :)

Gotcha covered! I'll brew up the beer of your choice and put you up in the heated part of the barn. Nice cozy couch and you can play PacMan on the arcade size game out there till ya get sleepy! Or if we time it right, I'll have the new 70" TV out there and you can play PacMan and watch tv till ya get sleepy. But the beer doesn't start... in full.. till the engine is out. Till then we have to act like "professionals" and just sip on them.

Bob Kontak 01-27-2021 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11200372)
Till then we have to act like "professionals" and just sip on them.

No problemo. I'm there and I'm serious.

rusnak 01-27-2021 03:34 PM

Sorry Bobby, but no. She will just have to come back in 10,000 miles won't she? Her airbag lights are on too

Bob Kontak 01-27-2021 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 11200476)
Sorry Bobby, but no. She will just have to come back in 10,000 miles won't she? Her airbag lights are on too

She's at the shop every two months for something or other. 43 years I've know her.

Her brother and my sister are married and live near Charlotte.

Airbag lights. +0.85
Rear bumper +0.973

Footnote: Greater Metropolitan Akron, Ohio standards. ;)

Nostril Cheese 01-27-2021 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 11200708)
Footnote: Greater Metropolitan Akron, Ohio standards. ;)

Tires, Zeppelins and Devo. good standards..

Bill Douglas 01-27-2021 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 11200097)
2014 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L naturally aspirated engine.

It's only a Hyundai ;) Why not just give them a wire brush clean and put them back in.

wdfifteen 01-27-2021 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 11200357)
Beer for Ohio PP members. :)

SmileWavy

cabmandone 01-28-2021 03:44 AM

Hey Patrick! We need to put together some kind of package deal here. I get him for 2 days. You come up here and we get my projects done. Then we all go to your place and work on projects for 2 days.

WPOZZZ 01-28-2021 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 11200320)
Agree. The gaps remain virtually unchanged with those plugs. What FF says about stressing coil packs as the plugs age makes sense.

You might have to do coil packs, too. My X3 has a stumble here and there and at 80k, I better get of my arse and check some things. The gf took my 535i and gave me back the X3. Needed new Vanos bolts (BMW did under warranty extension, whew!) Got a new expansion tank I have to put in, replaced a sticky door handle, and ordered new headlights because they have microfractures, and the rt lens has a lot of condensation in it. Gotta love women that just "drive" cars.

Bob Kontak 01-28-2021 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WPOZZZ (Post 11200935)
You might have to do coil packs, too. My X3 has a stumble here and there and at 80k, I better get of my arse and check some things. The gf took my 535i and gave me back the X3. Needed new Vanos bolts (BMW did under warranty extension, whew!)

Double Vanos? Just watched a vid. Lots of work compared to the 2014 CR-V cam phaser I changed last week which was easy.

As to failing coil packs, BMW and VW's are the notorious ones but I don't see all types of cars. I do know cars that have leaking valve cover gaskets and allow the coil pack to swim in oil (e.g., Subaru/Focus) will promote failure.


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