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javadog 04-04-2021 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11284579)
Yeah I used to watch WWE.

Well, that explains a lot. Not something I'd be proud of...

cabmandone 04-04-2021 08:36 AM

Yeah and most of what you write is nothing I'd be proud of so....

Let's try a different approach. You say it's a "false positive" if there is no live virus detected. If there are markers of the virus detected they were indeed positive. Are they infectious? Nope.. but they were indeed positive because they have or have had the virus. You also make the assumption that a person who tests positive at or near 40 isn't a real positive case which is simply wrong. That person could be either in the beginning stages with low viral load or at the ending stages of fighting the virus. Either way, a positive is a positive.

But rage on bro! It's all a big conspiracy!

javadog 04-04-2021 08:46 AM

As I have said before, if I get a test I’m interested in knowing whether or not I have sufficient live virus in my system to cause me to suffer from an active viral infection.

I couldn’t give two ****s if I don’t have any live virus present within me but I have some quantity of dead virus or virus fragments.

To remind you of the context, we were talking about a person who had been vaccinated, who had no symptoms and who had a positive test that was followed by a subsequent negative test.

I will add that there was no mention of a previous Covid illness in this person, which I assume would have been mentioned had it been relevant.

javadog 04-04-2021 08:52 AM

One question you might want to research is whether or not you can ingest a sufficient quantity of virus fragments that cause you to test positive in a PCR test from someone who has previously had the disease and still shedding virus.

I don’t recall seeing anything definitive on that, although I suspect it is possible.

Tobra 04-04-2021 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11284566)
It's not a false positive by any technical definition of the term. It might be an irrelevant positive, but it's not false.

That is a distinction without a difference in this case. Reported as positive is positive. If it is an irrelevant positive, how is that different in any real respect from a false positive?

cabmandone 04-04-2021 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 11284764)
That is a distinction without a difference in this case. Reported as positive is positive. If it is an irrelevant positive, how is that different in any real respect from a false positive?

A false positive means you were never actually infected. In the case of a positive where only signatures and not culturable virus was found, you still had the virus which means you were a positive test.

cabmandone 04-09-2021 03:17 PM

Might tell your friend to contact the CDC?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cdc-ramps-up-scrutiny-of-rare-post-vaccination-breakthrough-infections/ar-BB1fubGl?li=BBnb7Kz


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