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pmax 04-07-2021 12:04 PM

Do you like nice lens?
 
Seems good for the astro stuff.

Nikon P1000
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617825799.jpg

masraum 04-07-2021 12:46 PM

3000mm, wow, that's crazy.

Is there something special that makes it good for astro, or why do you say that?

Anyone with that thing had better have a REALLY sturdy tripod. Don't try to use it on a deck or anything other than very solid ground. And they'd better have a remote shutter release. And hope that there's no wind.

Eric Hahl 04-07-2021 01:12 PM

I do! 900mm focal length, 150mm diameter Russian LZOS triplet lens with Fluorite element...F6!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617829904.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617829922.jpg

Eric Hahl 04-07-2021 01:25 PM

Front end of my Takahashi FSQ-106 telescope.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617830674.jpg

pmax 04-07-2021 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11288382)
3000mm, wow, that's crazy.

Is there something special that makes it good for astro, or why do you say that?

Ran into an article about it while looking for conjunction pics. Seems easy to use and multipurpose too.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617832560.jpg

Eric Hahl 04-07-2021 01:57 PM

A few more from the collection...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617832591.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617832591.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617832591.jpg

masraum 04-07-2021 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Hahl (Post 11288444)
I do! 900mm focal length, 150mm diameter Russian LZOS triplet lens with Fluorite element...F6!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617829904.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617829922.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Hahl (Post 11288470)
Front end of my Takahashi FSQ-106 telescope.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617830674.jpg


I'm guessing that set you back about $83, and then another $27.50 for the mount! :D

masraum 04-07-2021 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Hahl (Post 11288525)

I'd really like the 50mm, but I could probably get by with the 1.4 vs the 1.2L.
I'd also like a 70-200 f2.8L

My only L
https://www.juzaphoto.com/shared_fil...-400-large.jpg

Eric Hahl 04-07-2021 02:33 PM

Had the 70-200 2.8L for a while. Absolutely one of the best out there! I switched over to primes for astro-photos...haven't really used them yet...Doh!

kimlangley7 04-07-2021 03:26 PM

the old 105mm Nikon SLR lens > best portrait lens ever!!

Gus Berges 04-07-2021 03:43 PM

Currently in use with my 1D Mark IV are: 50mm 1.8 (yes that plastic POS that outperforms 99% of the other lenses out there), 17-40 f4 L, 24-70 f2/8 L, and by far my favorite: 70-200 f2.8 IS L

pmax 04-07-2021 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Hahl (Post 11288444)
I do! 900mm focal length, 150mm diameter Russian LZOS triplet lens with Fluorite element...F6!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617829904.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617829922.jpg

That's some serious setup. Russian ?

masraum 04-07-2021 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gus Berges (Post 11288660)
Currently in use with my 1D Mark IV are: 50mm 1.8 (yes that plastic POS that outperforms 99% of the other lenses out there), 17-40 f4 L, 24-70 f2/8 L, and by far my favorite: 70-200 f2.8 IS L

the nifty 50 is a great lens, but I'd like to have the USM version which I think is at least as good.

Eric Hahl 04-07-2021 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmax (Post 11288689)
That's some serious setup. Russian ?

Just the lens and lens cell. Made by LZOS. The remainder of the scope was made by APM telescopes in germany.
The mount is U.S.A. built by software bisque.

MBAtarga 04-07-2021 07:12 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617851555.jpg

Steve Carlton 04-07-2021 07:43 PM

Impressive!

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LWJ 04-07-2021 07:49 PM

I (my wife) have the 50mm 1.2 and 135 2.0. Both amazing.

But, I call the 135 the magic lens. EVERYTHING looks fantastic when shot with that lens. Coming back from a photo shoot, I ohh and ahh on some shots. The 135 is usually the lens I am excited about, and, I don’t know which lens took which pic.

GH85Carrera 04-08-2021 06:20 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617891321.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617891321.jpg

This is just the lens from our our aerial film camera. The camera was a Wild RC-30 (pronounced Vildt) that cost just $495,000. The lens alone is 150 pounds. The film was 10 inches wide, and 500 feet long. It shot a 10x10 frame of film.

It was 150 MM (6 inch) focal length yet it covered the entire 10x10 frame. We had to send the lens and the camera to USGS every three years and spend 20 grand to have it calibrated to do work for the DOT of any state.

The camera and the lens combination was almost 400 pounds.

No it is a door stop for someone.

Steve Carlton 04-08-2021 06:25 AM

Wow! What kind of aircraft was flying around with that? What is being used now?

GH85Carrera 04-08-2021 06:55 AM

It was a Cessna 206 that was ordered new with a 24 inch hole in the floor. The camera mount had gyros to help keep it level and pointing down at all times.

That 206 wore out 14 engines and is very high time airframe.

Steve Carlton 04-08-2021 07:04 AM

How many hours per engine? What camera are you using now?

masraum 04-08-2021 07:12 AM

Very cool stuff, Glenn. Yes, more info like Steve C asked for would make this whole thread worth it. You're work/business is fascinating.

Eric Hahl 04-08-2021 07:29 AM

Very cool indeed!

APM telescopes photo of 510mm (20") APO triplet lens made by LZOS.
A little about LZOS if you are so inclined to read.
https://www.professional-telescopes.com/Product-Line/Apochromates/LZOS-Company

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617895644.jpg

Can't imagine what this one would cost.

GH85Carrera 04-08-2021 08:57 AM

The engines have to be replaced after a certain number of hours as determined by the manufacturer, or sooner if the certified mechanic says it has an issue. It can be rebuilt, but that takes months, and we always had a rebuilt by the manufacturer engine on the shelf waiting for the old one to time out, or have an issue.

We did careful maintenance and never ran the engine hard. The 206 was a 1967 model that was only 17 grand brand new. It has over 14,000 hours on the airframe. It was just a work truck to us, and it was not pretty, very faded paint and interior. But mechanically 100% sound. It was owned by the company where I worked.
That company closed and my business partner and I started from scratch and can do better work in less time with more profit with digital.


http://www.aerialviewpoint.com/mapping_cameras.htmo

This is a web site that some other aerial company has. We have nothing to do with them, they just have a good description of the RC-30. NASA still uses them. We went to a digital sensor years ago. Far cheaper, and lots easier and faster to get imagery to the client.

We have a Cessna 2004 182T now with the Garman 1000 panel.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617900198.jpg

This is our current airplane.


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That was all done with vertical photography, and we make 3D model that can be rotated, or looked at from any angle. We do regular vertical photography of course as the main part of our business.

911 Rod 04-08-2021 09:06 AM

I would think these days you just use a drone?

GH85Carrera 04-08-2021 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 11289464)
I would think these days you just use a drone?

Drones are fine for small areas. Lots of our customers are drone companies that get a client that want 5 square miles flown and their eyes bug out and they realize it will take 300 batteries and a few weeks for them to fly it. We can do that in an hour.

We recently flew several different intersections and overpasses on one road that was 300 miles long. Easy for an airplane. Drones or UAVs certainly have a place, but aerials from an aircraft are here to stay.

Most of our projects are for engineering companies or surveyors. They put down targets and provide a precise coordinates for each target. We fly over, and tell the computer that spot on the ground is precisely X, Y and Z position on the Earth and the surveyor is accurate to sub millimeter accuracy. That ties our imagery to the Earth, and with the 3D data we can provide contours over areas full of ravines, chiggers, mosquitoes, rattlesnakes and mean cattle and the surveyor only has to get to a few points to place the targets. We can do in 30 minutes what he would spend weeks on the ground to do. We sell him the data, and he checks the accuracy and puts his stamp on it.

Most drones have a camera the size of a tennis ball or even a golf ball. They are not very accurate. Fine for pretty pictures, but no real accuracy.

GH85Carrera 04-08-2021 03:24 PM

It was a Cessna 206 that was ordered new with a 24 inch hole in the floor. The camera mount had gyros to help keep it level and pointing down at all times.

That 206 wore out 14 engines and is very high time airframe.

masraum 04-08-2021 03:42 PM

You need a drone!
https://www.sandboxx.us/wp-content/u...s-1000x558.jpg

GH85Carrera 04-08-2021 03:55 PM

Those are a bit pricy, and I think only the military gets to have them. Our 182 is a lot cheaper.

Fast Freddy 944 04-09-2021 12:39 AM

I have an old Jason style Telescope, it worked ok, or maybe I didnt know how to correctly operate it. I found the moon easy enough..

Geneman 04-09-2021 04:49 PM

Glen. thats really amazing imagery ... had no idea that aerial surveying could be so exact over so long a distance. very cool

GH85Carrera 04-09-2021 07:14 PM

We often fly projects with a 2 or 3 inch pixel resolution. So objects that are a few inches across are identified.


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