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Cheap, fun, reliable daily.... under $10K

I am always thinking about my next car, and like to see what others favor. So here goes. So I was thinking, instead of a $500 a month note, why not entertain paying cash and investing the $500 a month.

Must be under $10k Or real near.
Must be a Manual
Must be ridiculously reliable
Must be fun
NOT a 2 seater
Nothing German, See number 3

My initial list looks like:

Mini R53 JCW if possible (shockingly they are reliable)
Honda Civic Si hatchback
Acura RSX Type S
Lexus IS300
FRS/BRZ
Fiesta ST
Acura TL SH



I am thinking NEXT YEAR OR TWO! Should have said that sorry.


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I'd personally do frs or fiesta st

May have to pay closer to 12k for a low enough milage example to meet your ultra reliable requirement, just because of used market craziness

fit maybe qualifies as fun 500 abarths are really cheap, reliability maybe sketchy but you will end up with a newer one than the other candidtes for less monies.
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Man that’s going to be tough right now. Cars that used to be 8-9k are 12 right now.

I don’t think you will find an FRS in that range. M
I’d be looking for the fiesta ST or focus ST. Strikes a good balance of fun and driving like a European car, but is closer to the Asian cars for reliability
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Does a Mazda 3 fit into that list/mold?

I've heard that Minis are like BMW, a crap shoot. You either get a good one or a bad one. I believe there are folks here on the board that have said "never had a problem" and other folks that have said "would never have one again." Or is the R53 JCW the unicorn mini that's guaranteed to be great?

Civic Si, might not be bad if you can get one at that price that hasn't been used and abused by some kid.
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My understanding of the Mini is that the R53 in non-S for is a bit of a trouble maker. The S gets a different engine and trans. The F series are quite terrible according to my local Mini specialist.

I had an Abarth 500, LOVED that silly little car, but I think the long term reliability is questionable. That said my 500 was way better than my Alfa Guilia Ti lol go figure.
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After you're done laughing...think about it a bit. Corvair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II1uoBn6whw&t=1179s
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After you're done laughing...think about it a bit. Corvair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II1uoBn6whw&t=1179s
Is he selling that for under $10K?

And the OP's list of eliminators knocks out anything that comes to mind from me.
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Man that’s going to be tough right now. Cars that used to be 8-9k are 12 right now.

I don’t think you will find an FRS in that range. M
I’d be looking for the fiesta ST or focus ST. Strikes a good balance of fun and driving like a European car, but is closer to the Asian cars for reliability
Agree - with used car prices. My youngest just bought a 2012 Toyota Camry, 42K mile car for $14.5K Normally it is an under $10K car. He walked away from cars that were $4K-$8K cars.
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Does a Mazda 3 fit into that list/mold?

I've heard that Minis are like BMW, a crap shoot. You either get a good one or a bad one. I believe there are folks here on the board that have said "never had a problem" and other folks that have said "would never have one again." Or is the R53 JCW the unicorn mini that's guaranteed to be great?

Civic Si, might not be bad if you can get one at that price that hasn't been used and abused by some kid.
I've had 5 Minis, and no problems with them except for a plugged sunroof drain on the R56, and a leaky coolant tank on the R53. I'm not sure a R53 JCW is worth it. IIRC, it was pretty much a smaller pulley, exhaust and tune. Lots of R53 have those installed, but they are aftermarket.
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I doubt you will find an Acura TL SH for $10K. Comps for my 2007 TLS are in the 9-12K range. It was declared a total loss today.

Even though it was an auto, it was still fun, maybe more fun because you can drive it similarly to a stick, or throw it in D and chill if you hit traffic.
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I don’t think I’d suggest a 9-3 or 9-5. Neither is “ridiculously reliable.”

I’d second the suggestion to look at a Mazda 3, either a regular one or a turbo.

Saabaru (9-2) is marginal - better choice than a 9-3 or 9-5 but not quite ridiculously reliable, especially if high mileage.
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Isuzu Amigo I picked up last year for $1000. Everything works, including AC. Been reliable so far. Fun to drive (IMHO)

Leaves $9k in the budget for hookers and blow.
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Isuzu Amigo I picked up last year for $1000. Everything works, including AC. Been reliable so far. Fun to drive (IMHO)

Leaves $9k in the budget for hookers and blow.
I almost bought an Isuzu pick-up many years ago (25-30). Parts weren't cheap, but everyone that I spoke to said that they'd been extremely reliable. It was the parts availability that held me back, I think.
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why not a 2 seater?

miata is always the answer.
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MINI is a BMW sub-brand so it doesn't meet the OP's 3rd and 6th requirements.

As the owner of a MINI, I can attest to the dismal quality and reliability. I just had it towed last Friday due to an electrical issue. But hey, it was cheap, 6-speed manual and AWD. Plus, it gets a ton of compliments and looks good.

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My understanding of the Mini is that the R53 in non-S for is a bit of a trouble maker. The S gets a different engine and trans. The F series are quite terrible according to my local Mini specialist.

I had an Abarth 500, LOVED that silly little car, but I think the long term reliability is questionable. That said my 500 was way better than my Alfa Guilia Ti lol go figure.

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