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stevej37 08-19-2021 09:33 AM

1990C4S "And if he wasn't mocking, what exactly was he doing? Entertaining us?"

If he were mocking...he wouldn't be complimenting him.

masraum 08-19-2021 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11430199)
^^^ I don't think there was any 'mocking' done. He just was trying to imitate his talking.
I'd like to hear what Ohtani thought of it....

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11430201)
And there's the problem. You don't think he was mocking.

Of several million viewers some will be insulted, fairly, or not.

So MLB can't allow it.

And if he wasn't mocking, what exactly was he doing? Entertaining us?

That's exactly it. It didn't sound like he was being malicious or denigrating to the Japanese player to me, but then what was the purpose? Was it funny? I'm all for a joke, but it didn't seem funny to me. It didn't seem particularly offensive, but I can see how it absolutely would give a lot of folks pause and cause many to instantly be offended.

And, especially when you 1 don't personally know someone and their values and 2 only hear their voice, but can't see them and their body language, what are the odds that everyone listening got the right meaning of his speech.

We have green text here for a reason, and it's because in written word, it's hard to know what one person means. We have had many misunderstandings over the years based on written text. Spoken word is a little better because you can hear how they are presenting it, but even then, with a large audience, you're going to get a wide range of interpretations.

Bob Kontak 08-19-2021 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11430199)
^^^ I don't think there was any 'mocking' done. He just was trying to imitate his talking.

There's no tolerance anymore. That's all there is to it.

I ain't sayin' I like it as it cuts down on my freedom of expression, but it is what it is and it has teeth.

Tervuren 08-19-2021 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11430202)
And if you are the face/representative of a company or entity, and you want to remain in that position, don't put yourself in the position for the company to have to worry about "is he making us look bad or should that have been fine?"

I would agree, but that would also apply to disciplinary action.
What if the response to an incident by the company results in a larger negative involving more people than what the employee originally said?

I already do not make effort to watch major TV sports expressly because of the fake atmosphere that I observed in increasing enforcement.
It's been nearly ten years since I went somewhere expressly to watch a NASCAR race on TV.
They lost me with the enforcement of what was said during the broadcasts into a hollow and fake world.
Now I watch amateur racing where a colorful world with variety still exists.

I would still expect some boundries for broadcast, but this is too tight.
In a case where an obvious positive take away exists let it go that way.

stevej37 08-19-2021 09:57 AM

On a side, sad note to this.....Bill Freehan died today. 11 time All-Star
79 years old. Catcher for the Tigers. I clearly remember watching him on b&w tv...settling in under the final out in the 68 world series.

Bob Gibson and the Cards took it to 7 games. Pitcher Mickey Lolich won 3 of the 4 games for Detroit.

Joe Bob 08-19-2021 10:47 AM

If he followed it up with "we're hunting Wabbits", he woulda gotta a pass.

pwd72s 08-19-2021 10:50 AM

'Anybody notice how some politicians can change accents while on the campaign trail? Hillary was a master at this.

PC and the cancel culture...making everybody afraid to speak...pretty sick...

I quit watching sports now that they've become "woke"...which puts me to sleep.

Chocaholic 08-19-2021 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11429910)
Ridiculous.

Tell the truth...you wanted to say “Ridicurous”.

stevej37 08-19-2021 10:55 AM

I hardly ever watch MLB anymore. I just happened to hear his apology while watching the Tiger game. Miguel Cabrera has 499 HR's and the place was standing for all his at bats.

Chocaholic 08-19-2021 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11430238)
On a side, sad note to this.....Bill Freehan died today. 11 time All-Star
79 years old. Catcher for the Tigers. I clearly remember watching him on b&w tv...settling in under the final out in the 68 world series.

Bob Gibson and the Cards took it to 7 games. Pitcher Mickey Lolich won 3 of the 4 games for Detroit.

The 68 World Series was a highlight of my childhood. I still remember the experience of being glued to every game...following every player....I would have been 9.

Bill Freehan, Mickey Lolich, Willie Horton, Al Kaline, Denny McLain, Norm Cash, Dick McAuliffe, Mickey Stanley, and the list goes on. Like it was yesterday.

RIP Mr. Freehan.

stevej37 08-19-2021 11:05 AM

^^^ I was at Tiger Stadium for McLains 30th win of the season.
My father, grandfather, and me.

I remember looking out the car window on the ride to the stadium and seeing all the burnt-out buildings after the 68 riots.

What Lolich did in that series was incredible.

javadog 08-19-2021 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 11430307)
Tell the truth...you wanted to say “Ridicurous”.

Lidicurous would probably be closer. I have many Japanese acquaintances and friends and have flirted with the idea of picking up a little Japanese, so as not to be so useless on a future trip to Japan. They can pronounce L’s and R’s just fine, but phonetically their words are broken up into 50 or 60 syllables and there are a lot of English words that don’t lend themselves to speech patterns using those same syllables. It’s complicated.

Zeke 08-19-2021 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11430168)
Click on the fooking pause symbol. :)

Where is that button? I right clicked it to stop it.

javadog 08-19-2021 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11430346)
Where is that button? I right clicked it to stop it.

In the very bottom left, two vertical bars. They aren’t there constantly, you have to tap the video to bring them up.

Zeke 08-19-2021 11:24 AM

Nevermind, I saw the bar pop up at the bottom after starting the clip with the main blue button. Don't know how I missed that. Not very observant.

stevej37 08-19-2021 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11430346)
Where is that button? I right clicked it to stop it.


Hover your mouse over the bottom of the video....it will appear.

javadog 08-19-2021 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11430358)
Nevermind, I saw the bar pop up at the bottom after starting the clip with the main blue button. Don't know how I missed that. Not very observant.

It’s not you. It doesn’t pop up when you first push play and if you hit the screen and make it pop up again, it will disappear after a couple seconds anyway.

Seahawk 08-19-2021 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11430326)
^^^ I was at Tiger Stadium for McLains 30th win of the season. My father, grandfather, and me.

Wow.

The Age of Baseball. I was and remain a Giants fan but the Tigers of that era were special.

Oh, pics or it didn't happen:D

stevej37 08-19-2021 11:40 AM

^^^ No pics of that game..I was only 15 and didn't own a camera.
I do have numerous pics of the 84 series. We attended the final winning game for Det. over San Diego.
I have a pic of Gibson's 1st homer of the game coming off his bat. His second one landed about 15 seat rows from us.

stevej37 08-19-2021 11:48 AM

If you look close...you can see the baseball in the air from Kirk Gibsons bat. Goose Gossage is the pitcher.
Not bad...$15 for a WS final game ticket!

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