They said there was a 8" fuel line leaking . An 8" fuel line!

Yes, as I understand it:
They believe the seal in the fuel line coupling didn't seat properly, and instead of simply disconnecting/reconnecting it, they will replace the entire line. They just don't do things like we do with our cars. :)

They're using bits of Shuttle technology.

This launch uses four Shuttle engines and the boosters are Shuttle with a segment added.

Thats the first stage. I'm not sure what second stage uses.

In addition to the improved rocket technology itself, there has been a good amount of residential/business development around what was undeveloped land surrounding Cape Canaveral since the Apollo program ended. So, using a less efficient (1960s design) Saturn V rocket would result in earthquake-like damage to the new communities.

Having said that, if you are anywhere near Cape Canaveral, interested, and even somewhat patriotic, by all means take the tour and see what the US accomplished at the peak of space competition. It will blow you away. I went with my dad, who was only mildly interested, and we both came away with new pride and respect for the sheer magnitude of the project.

Things on our cars don't go from ambient to
minus 423 degrees Fahrenheit in 2 seconds.
But I'm sure it's nothing that several million dollars can't fix

So apparently just getting a bigger Crescent wrench and giving that fitting one more 1/4 turn didn't do it? :cool:

Opinion | The Last Gasp of 20th-Century NASA

As private companies compete and drive down costs, the agency tries to use expensive refurbished rockets from the space-shuttle program to go to the moon.

Read in The Wall Street Journal: https://apple.news/ANNsaK7T0Rla9KO42pVhW4g

$240 to every taxpayer for this rocket. $960 for this household.

We should at least get a moonrock.

Thank-you, I really appreciate it. You can rightly be proud of what you've accomplished. Sincerely, please pass my thanks on to everyone in your household who has contributed.

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When you put it that way, it kind of sounds like a bargain. We’ll get moon rocks, but more importantly we’ll establish a permanent presence similar to the ISS. Why, you ask? In addition to continued science and exploration:

1. Let’s start with China. When it serves them to follow international space treaty, they will use it against us and the other space-faring nations (although mostly they don’t abide). They plan to have their own permanent presence, which will then allow them to occupy, then “own” portions of the moon, complete with drilling and mineral rights. Not to mention the security aspects of a foe nation having a vantage point over us.

2. To create a launching point for Mars missions. It’s much easier to start a trip to Mars from the reduced gravity of the moon then to launch direct from Earth. The plan is to launch pre-fabricated pieces of a future Mars spacecraft from Earth, then assemble them on the moon.

If 1 and 2 sound absolutely crazy, or at the very least make you say “What the heck for?” then there’s a lot more to talk about. But in the meantime, watch a few episodes of Steve Carell’s comedy “Space Force” on Netflix. It addresses the situation pretty well for a silly comedy.

Didn't mean to be negative, perhaps a little sarcastic, sorry. When I see large numbers, I put it in perspective. But I would love a moon rock. Or a tiny pebble. Hell, I'd settle for a spec of dust.

Considering we're 30ish billion into Artemis, (1/10 adjusted Apollo) this seems like a bargain.....

SpaceX just shot another off.....51 more satellites!

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Also an additional orbital payload too!
It was awesome as always to see. Plus the 1st stage coming back to land on the ocean pad. Kool!
I tried to take pix. Sadly they are of a quality such that I'd be accused of one or more of the following:
-the guy who photographs samsquanch sitings.
-the guy who photographs ufos.
-the guy who bought byrons old cell phone on craigslist.....

If it were a good idea, they could fund it
with donations and voluntary contributions.
But it isn't.

They also found a 10 mm socket that had rolled under the rocket.....

:):):);)

Haha, good one.

I know, huh?
Very few people would be willing to do that.

The correlation between voluntary donations and something being a good idea doesn’t exist. You couldn’t get the masses to effectively donate enough to end hunger in the world.

yes, I could
if it were possible

https://fortune.com/2022/02/15/elon-musk-5-7-billion-donation-weeks-after-asking-un-world-hunger/

Wonderful. I was expecting that one, so you're equating the general normal public taxpayer to the world's top richest people. One of whom can't decide if he wants to buy Twitter for altruistic purposes.

In the meantime, we're going (back) to the moon. Love it!

I like Musk, but what is he going to do, buy everyone a Happy Meal? Hunger is a geopolitical problem that can't be solved by writing a check. The money rarely gets past those in charge and to its intended target for one thing. Maybe he'll buy our way to world peace next :D :rolleyes: Stick with rockets and cars Elon.

So it now looks like we're at T minus October and holding for the Artemis ....

The problem with world hunger lies in the difference between giving a man a fish, and teaching him how to fish.

As someone who actually lives in third world Africa, I can factually add another complication to that:

Once you have given a man in Africa a fish, he will outright refuse to learn to fish, and instead make you responsible for not only providing him and his extended family fish for in perpetuity, but also hold you accountable for their whole socio-economic standing.

Musk is from here too, and I can guarantee you he understands it in exactly the same way I do.

Now THAT is hilarious!
:):):)

It was interesting last night that you could see the Artemis lit up on the launch pad in the background when the SpaceX Falcon 9 launched.

After the Challenger disaster and fiasco NASA can't be too careful.

Relax.
No one is going to take away your golden meal ticket.
NASA can suck on that magic teat forever.

SmileWavy

It ran when it was parked.

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Sold - you will deliver it for free right?

The last Blue Origin launch didn't go so well.

I don't have anything to do with NASA, or any company/entity/person involved. Just a patriot. You?

Never mind.

I adore Musk - for a variety of reasons and accomplishments. A true visionary, and the occasional weirdness that goes along with it. :)

You mean since you retired?

We have de-volved back to the 60's with our "space program". After the shuttle we were supposed to be kicking arse with new and exciting concepts, yet we seem to keep on going backwards, r-tards harkening back to the 30's bucky rogers me thinks. Oh well there still is the dream.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1663115912.jpg
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The launch window for Artemis I opens at 1:04 a.m. EST on Wednesday, Nov. 16. We’ll see.
https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-sets-new-coverage-for-artemis-i-moon-mission-launch/

Night launch!

Thanks, Big Dave! SmileWavy

I worked on the Orion program on and off for 14 years. That's the capsule for Artemis. Also worked the SLS rocket. Wouldn't trade this work for anything.

So a lot of work goes into these things. We all have something we have been working for 14 years!

Yes they returned to the old school rocket, because we know it is safer. Shuttle was a little more risky on paper.

The banter seems a little out-of-place. Not really a big deal if it's made by Lockheed, Northrop, or SpaceX. It's all the low level people working the program that makes it successful. Many of us have had several employers. How can you be a fan of just one company? Have fun!

I've been working on part of a manned station for lunar orbit for the last year:
https://www.nasa.gov/gateway

Gateway is made by Northrop BTW, so you can have a go at that!

Hi Mike. What's going on with the Tomcat? It's back? I'm a big fan of it.
John