That's a sweet thing to say. Bless her.

Thanks Mr Bill. She's also made it abundantly clear to EVERYONE that my car belongs to her when I depart this Earth... LOL :D

Lol

She also promised to park it in front of the church at my funeral... LOL ;)

You can't say she is not thoughtful...

I'd describe her as "adorably manipulative" and I'm sure most fathers with daughters can relate. :D

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Well, I have to admit, when I drive my wife’s ‘88 targa and no one is looking, I crack a big smile. It sure is a fine running machine!

Speedsters are too much fun. Enjoy!

the PCA here is a old mans joke of a club.

there are plenty of motorsports specific clubs worth your membership, just not PCA here. SCCA, MAC, IIRA, CWSCC, etc.

How old are you?
Buying a nearly new 911 as your 4th car puts you at age 30. minimum.
So, you're over 80? 90?

Many car guys who are arrogant know-it-all types.
They are constantly insulting people with the "wrong" car.

None of my other interests are filled so many with bitter, judgmental and critical people with massive chips on their shoulders

• Corvettes suck, Mustangs suck, Camaros suck.
• 70s cars suck. 80s cars suck. 90s cars suck. All modern cars suck.
• Porsche AG sucks. BMW AG sucks.
• Automatic cars all suck. PDK sucks. SMG sucks.
• EV sucks. Elon sucks.
• Magnus sucks
• Driving fast sucks. Driving slow sucks.
• Turbo sucks. 4-cyl sucks. V8 sucks.
• Front engine sucks. Mid engine sucks. Rear engine sucks.
• FWD sucks. RWD sucks. AWD sucks. 4WD sucks.
• Honda sucks. Nissan sucks. Subaru sucks. Ford sucks. GM sucks. Benz sucks. BMW sucks. Hyundai sucks.
• Stealerships suck. Your indy sucks.
• Hot hatch sucks. Land barge sucks. Lotus sucks for DD.
• DIY sucks. People who don't DIY suck.
• Yellow cars suck. Brown cars suck. 70s colors suck.
• Modern car colors suck. All 4 of them.
• Miatas are for hairdressers, Boxsters are for secretaries,
• BMW sucks. Old BMW suck. New BMW suck.
• GTI sucks. Focus RS sucks. Golf R sucks. BRZ sucks. New Supra sucks.
• Japanese cars all suck. WRX STI sucks. Ricers suck.
• Camber Tuner Modders Stance bros all suck
• Snowflakes suck. Millennials all suck. Anyone younger than me sucks.
• Everything sucks, except me and my car!

He's in his 70s.

yup. i tend to stick to motorsport specific clubs, and even then, im a part of 3 or 4 at any time, cause i dont even like my motorsports siloed. i am a part of clubs for autocross, HPDE, teaching, ice racing, wheel to wheel ... i kinda do it all. id rather be a part of many ponds than the king of any.

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Hey sunshine

Maybe you should try some
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Who cares. Who are we fooling?
We are collecting 30-50 year old cars.
Under 5% of this forum is actually dropping $120k on a new 911.

God and Ferry Porsche rested in 1974.

I can’t argue with you, but boy if I had a different experience. I have found that most of the car guys I know are very good sorts, eager to share with them know, and eager to learn about much of what they don’t know.

My $.02 anyways.

Hey, that was me - thanks. That’s one I never heard of before. Sidenote: last time I was at the Lit festival in LA I saw a very battered speedster I was told it was Jerry‘s (Who was there and VERY willing to chat - about cars!) and it, too, had a New York license plate, so that tracks.

I describe myself as an air-cooled Porsche guy. But I really do love the new water pumpers too. Especially anything with the last initial being "S", "GT" or "GTS". If people want to draw conclusions that I'm a snob, or whatever, fine. I don't do anything to merit that assessment.

I'm hosting a local Volkswagon club. I'm giving them 20 highly coveted parking spaces in late October for free. I'm posting their advertising in spaces that I could easily charge for. It's because they are planning a Halloween Trunk or Treat for kids. It's a good cause, and involving good people. I can't wait to see the cars. Maybe it'll turn into a regular car club gathering. Are Porsche guys exclusive and snobby? Maybe, I don't know. I don't think about it.

I haven't run into any yet.

Some of them are grumpy though.

The American Roadster shown in the video - probably Jerry’s and apparently 1 of 13:

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WHY OH WHY DOESN’T SOMEONE MAKE SOMETHING THIS BEAUTIFUL TODAY??

^That is gorgeous.

I have been in PCA for the majority of my life. I joined in 1976. I have meet hundreds of great PCA member and have many life long friends form PCA. The only real jerks I met were during some of the oil booms. The gold chain guys that wanted something more expensive and better than the Corvettes of the 80s. They ALL vanished when the oil bust came.

I have seen countless times of fellow PCA members helping other members and teaching and sharing. I know many people are not the club type, and all I can say is you are just missing out, but that is your choice.

Sure, every club has a few grumpy old men, but that is part of men getting old. We have had a few that started complaining about how something was done. We asked them to show us how it should be done, and a few took on the challenge, and made a better event, and got them involved and working to make a better club.

I agree with Glen and I’m part of Sugars 5%, even though my current 911 is 12 years old.

I joined the PCA a solid year or two before attending anything. I had a vision in mind of people that drove their brand new cars and wouldn't have the time nor the desire to welcome a working college kid driving an old 1966 912 that was deep in the process of restoration.

But I was wrong. And Glen was one of the friendliest people in the club. He, and others, made me feel very welcome regardless of my own personal views of myself or my Porsche. In fact that experience is what influenced me in how I treated new attendees to any event. I went out of my way to be friendly and talk to them.

Not an S/T but I like it

Great to revisit this thread. It should be an annual event.

A seven speed manual transmission? It seems to me that it's a very poor engine that has such a narrow power band that it needs 7 gears. Unless I'm on the track I often skip 4th on my 5 speed 911.

I had to laugh at Leno saying his Carrera 2 hunkers down at 100 mph. My coupe feel like it's about at V1 at that speed. It must be the weight of all those extra cams in Jay's car. :D

Another guy said Porsches are, "...built to last." Until they started dipping the bodies, I would say, "Porsches are built to rust." I've probably parted out half of dozen five and six year old 356s and 912s because the bodies were rusted away.

Serious question: can't air cooled and water cooled passions coexist ? We are all supposed to be car guys/gals . It's fine if you enjoy the air cooled . It's fine if you enjoy the water cooled . They are just time stamps from a great car manufacturer .

My passion started with my brothers 1969 912 . When I was able to purchase my first was a 74 911S targa . Then a 87 944S . Then built a 914/6 GT clone . Then a 83 911 SC . Then a 02 986 S . And now a 996 C4 .

I enjoyed owning/driving/wrenching on all of them . I had a passion for all of them . I wave to any Porsche I see when driving . I am a member of PCA . I don't look up or down to any Porsche model . Maybe I am just an oddball 😋

Certainly. Much like the SC vs Carrera bickering, mostly done in fun and not a serious argument. My first Porsche was a 1974 914 2.0 that I ordered to my specs. I drove it as my only car until I bought my 86 El Camino in 1991. The 914 was a weekend toy, but not air conditioned. My wife insisted I get a car with AC for her to want to ride in. So I bought the 85 911 in 1995, and sold my 914.

In 2017 my wife wanted a Macan. She went to the Porsche web site a "built" her car with the options and colors she wanted. So in 2017, it was delivered. My name is on the title, but it is her daily driver. It is a great car and like a space ship conspired to my old 80s cars.

I have never had anyone put down my cars, and usually they come and admire them. Both are conversation starters.

I suppose so.
I admire, and feel camaraderie with, people who wrench on their own cars. That's not hard to understand given my past with the cars. That's the dividing line for me. To a person, the Porsche owners I know who wrench on their own cars own older air cooled cars, so it's a sort of natural selection.

I don't have any interest in Porsche sedans and station wagons. To me that looks like paying the Porsche tax for a car that does what a Toyota or Chevy would do, which comes across as badge snobbery to me.

Bottom line - it's complicated.

That was a good video!

I’m on my 6th Porsche now of almost all versions (started with an 83 944), I think the biggest attractions are fun driving and build quality. I am always happy jumping in my 06 Cayman S, and always happy when I get out. We get winter here so every spring it’s like a new gift to uncover the car and go for a drive!

I like some of the new ones but can’t justify the costs, so I’m always looking at older models and if taken care of, I know they will last a long time.

Happy holidays Pelicans!

Great video, great seeing this again. Myself, 3 air-cooled Porsches over many years, belonged to PCA for a while in the 90's but couldn't seem to penetrate the club scene. Our daughter took her driver road test in the 84' Carrera (passed first time) and one son took it to his Sr Prom., went all over the eastern US in those cars. The only failure we ever had was the A/C switch shorted out in the console in Charleston, SC which I fixed with a bit of sandpaper. The most dependable old cars out there. We still have the 993 which doesn't get enough road time anymore, but it sure is still willing to go! I have had lots of seat time in a Boxster S and a 997S, loved them both but never moved beyond the 993 in ownership.
To me the whole Porsche thing was and is a great, dependable driver's car that needs little maintenance beyond what the book clearly tells the owner to do to keep them running in fine shape. I could go one a long time about the steering, seat position, suspension, the solid feel of the entirety, etc. but there are books full of that.

I could not be bothered to watch that entire thing. Snore. I have owned 4 Porsche in my life, the most recent my newly acquired 2014 Cayman S. I have driven an absurd number of cars in my life. Porsche makes excellent automobiles. The sound, the handling, it is a fantastic experience driving one. I don't own any Porsche gear, but I see nothing wrong with them making money off their brand. I don't see anyone claiming their wares are junk. And I disagree with the comparison with Harley. I don't feel like they have over exposed their brand, or that their products are not relevant to young people. My daughters 20 year old ex boyfriend (still friends) is a car guy, the Porsche brand still has great value with their age bracket, definitely halo cars.

Just watched the vid. I am working on a house right off that road (Palos Verdes) along the beach so I am there few times a week. There are lots of Porsches there.

No need for me to talk about the Porsche magic because all know it well. I think it was Noah that said the Porsche crowd had changed an I agree with him 100%. I have never joint any car clubs but do go to our local meets once or twice a year. Most of the guys are great and simple people. Not the large car meets, that's a different crowd. I suppose I know most of the guys that show up at our local meet up so they go easy on me but the large shows, they seem to be a bit snobbish. I still have three air cool cars that I must force myself to drive when possible. I get to the point that I don't take the 993TT out due to people who always have BS to say. I have a factory Turbo S aero tail. Someone will always tell me that's the wrong tail for my car and the next question is always, " is that a real Turbo, can I see the intercooler"? Sick of having to answer to all that. For the most part, they leave me alone on the 930. I noticed the pattern. Most of these guys are in the late 30 to about late 40ish. Weird, I found.

Talk about a different crown. I was invited to a Ferrari unavailing of the Roma in the Torrance dealership. Oh boy, talk about the wine and cheese crowd. These guys were something else. First off, we have to be in our monkey suits. I listen to some of their conversations. They talk of their other f cars and their Aston Martin are so plush that nothing comes close to their performance or comfort. I mentioned the big benz or BMWs are good coupes and they corrected me fast. Do not enjoy that and I think Porsche and their newer owners are headed that way. Still, I drive the wheels off my Cayman S. In the back of my mind, I am still thinking about buying a modern turbo before I start driving like an old man.