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masraum 11-01-2022 05:18 PM

Exercise buffs - proper squats form
 
I've done some exercising over the years including some weights work. I've never injured myself doing it. I've heard in the past that when doing squats you either didn't want your knees to go past 90º or you didn't want your thighs to go past parallel to the floor (which I think is probably 75-80º max). IE, don't go too low. These days when I see videos of people working out (facebook and youtube are always throwing stuff at me) most of the folks, especially women (that's what they send me mostly. I don't complain) are squatting way, way, way down. This seems like a bad idea to me.

I didn't listen to this video, so I'm not sure what they are saying about how low to go, but I see that she's going way down. I had the clip start to show how low they've got her going. You may want to rewind back to ~0:14secs for a small jiggly thrill. She's a cutey for sure.

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stomachmonkey 11-01-2022 07:18 PM

If you're not ****ting yourself, you're doing it wrong.

I think the majority of the Asian community would not have a problem with her posture.

#asiansquat

masraum 11-01-2022 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11836779)
If you're not ****ting yourself, you're doing it wrong.

I think the majority of the Asian community would not have a problem with her posture.

#asiansquat

Yep, I'm familiar with the Asian squat and do it myself sometimes. It's easier than the standard American squat.
But there's a difference between squatting down to look at something or rest and doing squats with weights. Or maybe there's not. That's what I'm curious about.

In other videos I'm seeing folks get really low like that with bars full of plates. I could maybe see doing it with body weight or low weight, but doing it with a lot of extra weight seems like a bad idea.

cantdrv55 11-01-2022 07:27 PM

I like her squat and that’s all I’m going to say

herr_oberst 11-01-2022 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cantdrv55 (Post 11836786)
I like her squat and that’s all I’m going to say

She's smokin' hot.

Jeff Higgins 11-01-2022 08:11 PM

As a former competitive powerlifter, I can tell you this much: a legal squat, in competition, requires that your femur break parallel to the ground. Is that a "healthy" squat? I'm not sure there is any such thing.

"Ass to grass" is a common term in squatting circles. Going that deep, well below a legal competitive squat, seems to be some sort of a "badge of honor" to some. The potential for injury for most people, however, is very, very real.

Lots of controversy surrounding the squat. Tom Platz had the biggest legs ever seen in bodybuilding, and he saw the squat rack as his "temple". On the other hand, Vasily Alekseyev, who in setting 80 world Olympic Lifting records in the snatch and clean and jerk, never squatted. He preferred step-ups.

Squats are an ego thing. But they can hurt you. I'm missing two discs in my lower back and had my right hip replaced, all attributable to damage done in the squat rack. I would advise against them.

masraum 11-02-2022 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 11836801)
As a former competitive powerlifter, I can tell you this much: a legal squat, in competition, requires that your femur break parallel to the ground. Is that a "healthy" squat? I'm not sure there is any such thing.

"Ass to grass" is a common term in squatting circles. Going that deep, well below a legal competitive squat, seems to be some sort of a "badge of honor" to some. The potential for injury for most people, however, is very, very real.

Lots of controversy surrounding the squat. Tom Platz had the biggest legs ever seen in bodybuilding, and he saw the squat rack as his "temple". On the other hand, Vasily Alekseyev, who in setting 80 world Olympic Lifting records in the snatch and clean and jerk, never squatted. He preferred step-ups.

Squats are an ego thing. But they can hurt you. I'm missing two discs in my lower back and had my right hip replaced, all attributable to damage done in the squat rack. I would advise against them.

OK, that all makes sense to me. I've seen videos of crazy squat accidents. I can see "break parallel" but only just. To me "ass to grass" seems like a bad thing unless you're doing pretty close to body weight/relatively low weight.

I'm not doing that sort of workout these days.

masraum 11-02-2022 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cantdrv55 (Post 11836786)
I like her squat and that’s all I’m going to say

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11836794)
She's smokin' hot.

Absolutely, smokin figure and great face too (those dimples)!

I just checked out a couple of secs of audio. She's 6' tall! I think she's dating the dude in the video.

Tobra 11-02-2022 08:34 AM

If you are going past 90* at the knee when doing squats, you will trash your knees pretty fast

The video is an excellent example of how to hurt yourself.

Paul T 11-02-2022 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by tobra (Post 11837110)
if you are going past 90* at the knee when doing squats, you will trash your knees pretty fast

the video is an excellent example of how to hurt yourself.

+1

2.7RS 11-02-2022 10:10 AM

The video is hurting me in several other ways

matthewb0051 11-02-2022 10:13 AM

Is this thread about exercising OR her? Dang!

masraum 11-02-2022 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 11837248)
Is this thread about exercising OR her? Dang!

Does it matter?

herr_oberst 11-02-2022 01:27 PM

I think the woman is practicing Asian squats, not power squats. There are myriad benefits to people who can comfortably do this with good technique.

Her use of the kettlebell, I believe, is to strengthen her lower back, and core, in order to improve posture while in the deep 'Asian squat" position.

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epbrown 11-05-2022 05:48 PM

If you're doing straight up weight training, there's no need to go below parallel. I've done Asian squats and other variants when I was running track, as they're supposed to help with exploding from the blocks when you're doing shorter distances, and some jumps. But since all you're moving in competition is your own bodyweight for those sports, you're not doing seriously heavy weights. I usually trained with bodyweight or less going that deep, whereas my target for squats to parallel is 2X bodyweight or more.

This goes back to my old man complaint about working out in these days of information overload. Amateurs have access to all sorts of workout routines for specific sports, movements, and muscles, and adopt all sorts of specialized training techniques that don't apply to them, so you see someone with 13" biceps focusing on their traps or forearms because they saw a bodybuilder doing it on Tik-tok once. It's like tilting your head during reps because you saw Usain Bolt doing it, and not knowing he does it because he's 6'5" and used to hit his head working out in his parent's basement or something.

wildthing 11-05-2022 08:24 PM

Without weight, sure, squat low... With weight, thighs parallel to the floor, maybe even higher, knees not passing my toes. Stance just a little bit wider than shoulder or even shoulder width, with toes pointing a little bit out.

Bill Douglas 11-05-2022 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildthing (Post 11840202)
Without weight, sure, squat low... With weight, thighs parallel to the floor, maybe even higher, knees not passing my toes. Stance just a little bit wider than shoulder or even shoulder width, with toes pointing a little bit out.

Sounds like you have met my ex, Rosina.

masraum 11-06-2022 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildthing (Post 11840202)
Without weight, sure, squat low... With weight, thighs parallel to the floor, maybe even higher, knees not passing my toes. Stance just a little bit wider than shoulder or even shoulder width, with toes pointing a little bit out.

That's how I've always done it in the past.


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