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fintstone 08-23-2023 03:26 PM

The fact that they did not use violent crime rate tells you everything you need to know.

fintstone 08-23-2023 03:31 PM

"Boston sees 655 violent crimes per 100,000, making the city less safe than 83 percent of US cities"

rwest 08-23-2023 05:49 PM

My question about all these surveys is: aren’t you just getting opinions from the sort of people who are willing to answer their phone and spend 10-20 minutes talking to someone they don’t know?

That has to be a very specific demographic and therefore not representative of the public at whole. Pretty much every phone survey is just the opinions of one type of person- probably a very lonely person!

masraum 08-23-2023 06:02 PM

From wikipedia (sorted by "violent crime" "total") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

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KFC911 08-23-2023 06:55 PM

Tomorrow's Gallup poll .... Rank your favorite food from these 15 items that you've never had?

Enquiring minds don't give a rat's behind....

But some do :D

Shaun @ Tru6 08-23-2023 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12074491)



Thanks for posting Steve. Boston isn't even on the list. It is really safe here I think.

KFC911 08-24-2023 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12074537)
Thanks for posting Steve. Boston isn't even on the list. It is really safe here I think.

Camden didn't make that list either ;)

masraum 08-24-2023 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12074537)
Thanks for posting Steve. Boston isn't even on the list. It is really safe here I think.

#45 when sorted by "total violent crimes" column
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1692881064.jpg

Shaun @ Tru6 08-24-2023 04:42 AM

I'll take it. :)

Going to the movies as much as I do and many times getting out very late at night, while it's a decent part of town, there are plenty of elements on the street late at night. I have never felt ill at ease EXCEPT just after COVID ended and opened up. It was then that I saw a lot of folks you would not want to meet at 12am with no one else around. It lasted about a week and then there were police on every frickin corner for a month and they were gone.

masraum 08-24-2023 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12074627)
I'll take it. :)

Updated, the first time that I posted @ #56, I had the sorting upside down. It's really #45 (from the top). New, correct screenshot posted.

Shaun @ Tru6 08-24-2023 04:47 AM

That works too and still gels with what I just posted above

2.7RS 08-25-2023 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12073874)
I'm not surprised Boston is ranked 2nd but the percentages of a few others is shocking.

Boston ranked one of America's safest cities

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Hey Shawn.

Mass and Cass or Dorchester not part of Boston?

Shaun @ Tru6 08-25-2023 08:59 AM

Mass and Cass is part of Boston, have driven by a few times.

Posted 13 minutes ago

Mayor Wu announces plan to remove tents, address ongoing crisis at Mass. and Cass

I am not optimistic but it's been a major focus for the last year.

dw1 08-25-2023 12:56 PM

Bogus poll. Too few folks in each city, and the question is about "feeling" safe, not actual crime stats.

dw1 08-25-2023 01:17 PM

The table posted above not only does not include Boston but also New York City!!!!

Not to get all PARFy, but it is interesting to note how many cities in, say, Texas and Florida are less safe than NYC, according to the objective data listed.

masraum 08-25-2023 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12073951)
I thought it was a small sample as well Steve but checking it out, it's not people in each city, it's 1000 people all over the U.S (which is still a small sample IMHO). It's just a perception survey. Here's the methodology, I thought it was an interesting survey that, if anything, could spark serious analysis:

Results for this Gallup poll are based on telephone interviews conducted July 3-27, 2023, with a random sample of 1,015 adults, aged 18 and older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia.

Each city was rated by a random half-sample of approximately 500 adults.

For results based on these samples of national adults, the margin of sampling error is ±5 percentage points at the 95% confidence level.

Each sample of national adults includes a minimum quota of 80% cellphone respondents and 20% landline respondents, with additional minimum quotas by time zone within region. Landline and cellular telephone numbers are selected using random-digit-dial methods.

In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12074032)
Weird, so they spoke to 1000+ random folks and asked "what do you think" and it's possible that none or all of the folks polled lived in any of the cities in the poll. It's just a perception poll, and no idea where the folks polled were. Kind of weird.

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12074491)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dw1
Bogus poll. Too few folks in each city, and the question is about "feeling" safe, not actual crime stats.

The table posted above not only does not include Boston but also New York City!!!!

Not to get all PARFy, but it is interesting to note how many cities in, say, Texas and Florida are less safe than NYC, according to the objective data listed.

Yep, we went over the weirdness of the poll, the fact that it was random people that could have been anywhere in the US, and not necessarily folks IN any of those cities and based on what those random folks "thought" which could have all of the validity of a $3 bill or a wooden nickel.

But then I did post some actual crime stats (and the results were a little surprising to me).

fintstone 08-25-2023 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12075804)
Yep, we went over the weirdness of the poll, the fact that it was random people that could have been anywhere in the US, and not necessarily folks IN any of those cities and based on what those random folks "thought" which could have all of the validity of a $3 bill or a wooden nickel.

But then I did post some actual crime stats (and the results were a little surprising to me).

The actual charts the FBI posts are more telling than the edited Wikipedia version. It covers more cities, is clearer about the areas covered (for each city) and points out that a lot of cities choose not to report or report differently.

Vintage Racer 08-25-2023 05:31 PM

Who cares about this stuff?

masraum 08-25-2023 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 12075821)
The actual charts the FBI posts are more telling than the edited Wikipedia version. It covers more cities, is clearer about the areas covered (for each city) and points out that a lot of cities choose not to report or report differently.

Say it ain't so! LOL!

That reminds me of the fact that the US reports over 1 million covid deaths, India 500k+, Russia 300k, and China only had 5272. LMAO

Vintage Racer 08-25-2023 06:42 PM

Not my problem. The smart guys get rich and the losers get poor.


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