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masraum 08-10-2024 10:01 PM

Anyone got a 9/32 drive ratchet, sockets, etc...?
 
It seems that in the US they were mostly made by Snap On, and mostly made from the early 30s until 1942. Most were made for the military. I read somewhere that they were to keep folks from stealing them, but that doesn't make sense to me. It seems that they may have also been made by Plumb/Plomb and maybe King Dick.

I thought it was interesting that something else existed besides 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2 (and some of the bigger stuff)

https://i.ibb.co/gwngvxg/62631330323...8357484521.jpg

RNajarian 08-10-2024 10:15 PM

I have a couple 9/32 Plomb ratchets. One of them was ground down by the PO to accommodate 1/4 sockets.

Those WW2 era tools were great. I’ve also got several 1/2 inch drives stamped WP (Wright Patterson) also from that era. If those tools could talk . . .

pwd72s 08-10-2024 11:51 PM

Cool...I've read about them. Thanks for the pic. Have some old 40's ratchets, plomb & Craftsman, that were my dad's, but only 3/8 drive.

wdfifteen 08-11-2024 07:41 AM

I once had a torque wrench from Wright Patt. It was 8 feel long when assembled, with the square drive in the center. It was 1 1/2" or 2." I don't know what it was used for or why I ended up with it. It sat in my damp basement for years and ended up in the scrap heap.

masraum 08-11-2024 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RNajarian (Post 12300700)
I have a couple 9/32 Plomb ratchets. One of them was ground down by the PO to accommodate 1/4 sockets.

Those WW2 era tools were great. I’ve also got several 1/2 inch drives stamped WP (Wright Patterson) also from that era. If those tools could talk . . .

That's funny.
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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 12300781)
I once had a torque wrench from Wright Patt. It was 8 feel long when assembled, with the square drive in the center. It was 1 1/2" or 2." I don't know what it was used for or why I ended up with it. It sat in my damp basement for years and ended up in the scrap heap.

Wow, crazy!

A930Rocket 08-11-2024 11:54 AM

I had heard decades ago, the military used a weird size, to prevent theft, as they were not compatible with standard sockets, etc. That said, I have a 1/2” drive Snap On ratchet from about 1942, that my grandfather used at the Charleston naval shipping yard.

pwd72s 08-11-2024 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 12300877)
I had heard decades ago, the military used a weird size, to prevent theft, as they were not compatible with standard sockets, etc. That said, I have a 1/2” drive Snap On ratchet from about 1942, that my grandfather used at the Charleston naval shipping yard.

There ya go...your Grandpa was one of those workers with a large lunch box. ;)

GH85Carrera 08-11-2024 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 12300890)
There ya go...your Grandpa was one of those workers with a large lunch box. ;)

One story I heard is that the Navy yards gave up on stopping tool theft, and bought enough hammers and other tools to fill every home workshop so there was no need to steal any more.

masraum 08-11-2024 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 12300877)
I had heard decades ago, the military used a weird size, to prevent theft, as they were not compatible with standard sockets, etc. That said, I have a 1/2” drive Snap On ratchet from about 1942, that my grandfather used at the Charleston naval shipping yard.

That's what I read about them. As far as I've been able to tell, the military issue stuff that was non-standard size was only the small 1/4" vs 9/32". I've found plenty of military issue stuff online that is 3/8" and 1/2". I guess they were only worried about stuff small enough to fit a pocket.

John Rogers 08-11-2024 02:28 PM

Sorry I don't have those but I do have my Whitworth Spanners from when I owned a BSA A-10 in 1969/70 time frame. They lasted longer than my wife of the time!
John Rogers

rockfan4 08-11-2024 04:48 PM

Yes, I have a set plus extra odds and ends. Inherited from my father, who was a mechanic. I'm sure he picked them up at an auction, it seemed like we went to one just about every weekend. Unfortunately, I keep them in the same drawer as the 1/4 stuff, so it's always a chore to match things up. But this is the toolbox in the basement, and I rarely use stuff out of that box. There's also some 8 point sockets in the drawer. No idea where they're used.

And yes, the 9/32 size was on purpose to keep people from stealing them, but I guess if you get the whole set it doesn't matter much.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1723420116.jpg

pwd72s 08-11-2024 05:24 PM

8 points mainly used for square head nut & bolts. Also works for "star" shaped, but dunno if they were used back then.

masraum 08-12-2024 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 12301001)
8 points mainly used for square head nut & bolts. Also works for "star" shaped, but dunno if they were used back then.

8 points work for star shaped? What are you calling star shaped, torx? Those are 6 point. And then there's the triple square, but those are 12 point. I can't imagine an 8 point working well on either of those. WHat other star shaped are there?

masraum 08-12-2024 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rockfan4 (Post 12300993)
Yes, I have a set plus extra odds and ends. Inherited from my father, who was a mechanic. I'm sure he picked them up at an auction, it seemed like we went to one just about every weekend. Unfortunately, I keep them in the same drawer as the 1/4 stuff, so it's always a chore to match things up. But this is the toolbox in the basement, and I rarely use stuff out of that box. There's also some 8 point sockets in the drawer. No idea where they're used.

And yes, the 9/32 size was on purpose to keep people from stealing them, but I guess if you get the whole set it doesn't matter much.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1723420116.jpg

Very cool.

pwd72s 08-12-2024 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12301408)
8 points work for star shaped? What are you calling star shaped, torx? Those are 6 point. And then there's the triple square, but those are 12 point. I can't imagine an 8 point working well on either of those. WHat other star shaped are there?

I have some old wood working tools owned by a grandpa....late 1800's, early 1900's, that have fasteners kind of star shaped...never tried it, but thought an 8 point might work on 'em. But you're right...mainly made for square head fasteners.

JackDidley 08-12-2024 07:47 PM

Never heard of a 9/32 drive ratchet before this thread. Today I saw one for sale on FB marketplace. Crazy.

masraum 08-13-2024 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 12301717)
I have some old wood working tools owned by a grandpa....late 1800's, early 1900's, that have fasteners kind of star shaped...never tried it, but thought an 8 point might work on 'em. But you're right...mainly made for square head fasteners.

Interesting. I've been perusing old woodworking tool groups for the past year or two and never seen anything like you describe. If you get a chance (don't go out of your way) I'd love to see pics of what you're talking about. THere was so much interesting stuff done back in the day!

masraum 08-13-2024 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JackDidley (Post 12301740)
Never heard of a 9/32 drive ratchet before this thread. Today I saw one for sale on FB marketplace. Crazy.

Yep. I beat you hearing about them by a week or two.

pwd72s 08-13-2024 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12302183)
Interesting. I've been perusing old woodworking tool groups for the past year or two and never seen anything like you describe. If you get a chance (don't go out of your way) I'd love to see pics of what you're talking about. THere was so much interesting stuff done back in the day!

I'm a luddite...no digital camera other than an old point & shoot that the battery died on. Anyway, very ornate fitting, cast iron, painted balck, sort of pyramid shaped with 5 splines down the pyramid. Bolt head showing in the hole at it's top...located at the bottom of the handles of an old draw knife...

Have an old wooden chest with a batch of old woodworking tools in my storage shed. Probably will get tossed when I croak. Wish you were my neighbor, I'd give 'em to you. Hopefully, I'll bump into someone who likes that old stuff.

I've reached that getting rid of stuff stage of life. One of Cindy's rehab guys happened to be into Porsches. Has a Boxster...I gave him my PCA "Upfixin" book set a few weeks ago.

masraum 08-13-2024 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 12302302)
I'm a luddite...no digital camera other than an old point & shoot that the battery died on. Anyway, very ornate fitting, cast iron, painted balck, sort of pyramid shaped with 5 splines down the pyramid. Bolt head showing in the hole at it's top...located at the bottom of the handles of an old draw knife...

Have an old wooden chest with a batch of old woodworking tools in my storage shed. Probably will get tossed when I croak. Wish you were my neighbor, I'd give 'em to you. Hopefully, I'll bump into someone who likes that old stuff.

I've reached that getting rid of stuff stage of life. One of Cindy's rehab guys happened to be into Porsches. Has a Boxster...I gave him my PCA "Upfixin" book set a few weeks ago.

Interesting!

And what you're describing is in the purple rectangle? That sounds really neat and unusual. I've only ever seen washers or caps that have a tang peened over.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1723595321.jpg

Or are you talking about the area in the red circle which is only on folding handle draw knives so less common.

It's too bad you don't know someone local that would take the tools. The only tools are very cool, and slowly disappearing because lots of folks don't appreciate them any more.


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