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Jeff Higgins 11-02-2024 07:14 PM

Explaining Top Fuel
 
This young man does a remarkable job. The only thing he can't adequately convey is the noise...

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JackDidley 11-02-2024 09:45 PM

Cool video. Nothing like the feeling of a fuel motor shaking the earth under your feet.

Bob Kontak 11-03-2024 04:34 AM

Thanks for that.

This is a good supplement. Check out fuel spray "pattern" at 8:15 in. So much fuel it's a fine line between hydrolock and combustion.

Lots of goodies and a good production.

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Shaun @ Tru6 11-03-2024 04:55 AM

Very cool video, thanks for posting Jeff. Love all the details and extreme specs.

I wonder if you can mix the best of both worlds from top fuel and F1 to create a new engine platform.

VINMAN 11-03-2024 07:57 AM

Top fuel in person is such an incredible experience. Nothing else like it.

Was so pissed when they shut down Raceway Park here. Summer Nationals every year.
:mad:
.

stevej37 11-03-2024 08:15 AM

They have top fuelers at the 131 Motorsports Park every summer. I've been to a few and a couple years ago I was there. Seated about 20 rows up, next to the starting line.

The race day was sponsored by Hooters and the girls (in work attire) were told to stand and cheer right next to the 'Christmas tree'

I felt sorry for them even though they had ear plugs in. The sound waves coming off those engines distorts your view...incredibly loud....it shakes you to the bone.

herr_oberst 11-03-2024 06:20 PM

Watch this rear end come apart today (Nov 3) in Vegas. That's pieces of ring gear that you can see hitting the track and the wall.

(9" Ford ring gear is on the right. TF cars use an 11" gear.

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herr_oberst 11-03-2024 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VINMAN (Post 12350829)
Top fuel in person is such an incredible experience. Nothing else like it.

Was so pissed when they shut down Raceway Park here. Summer Nationals every year.
:mad:
.

Had to do it. Kalitta losing his life in the shut down and no more land to extend the track tied the NHRA's hands. Even reducing the track to 1000 feet wasn't going to be enough to make that place safe. The cars just got too fast.

But, yeah, an absolute bummer to lose that track.

Or any of the old tracks, like Mile High. Is Seattle next?

A930Rocket 11-03-2024 07:18 PM

Cool video.

The guy in the video mentions the excess fuel being burned out of the headers, creating big flames.

There was a video or fact sheet, that mentioned the hot exhaust was burning the hydrogen in the air, to make the flames.

Thoughts?

Jeff Higgins 11-03-2024 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 12351178)
Cool video.

The guy in the video mentions the excess fuel being burned out of the headers, creating big flames.

There was a video or fact sheet, that mentioned the hot exhaust was burning the hydrogen in the air, to make the flames.

Thoughts?

Correct. They spit a lot of unburnt fuel at idle and part throttle, but very much burn every bit of it at wide open throttle. The intense exhaust heat actually "cracks" hydrogen molecules from atmospheric "air" and burns it independently. Pretty amazing phenomena all on its own.

Rikao4 11-04-2024 06:26 AM

[QUOTE=Jeff Higgins;12350626]This young man does a remarkable job. The only thing he can't adequately convey is the noise...

having stood near the line a few times..
'noise' doesn't really do it justice...
your guts will move...:eek:


Rika

Sooner or later 11-04-2024 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 12351158)
Watch this rear end come apart today (Nov 3) in Vegas. That's pieces of ring gear that you can see hitting the track and the wall.

(9" Ford ring gear is on the right. TF cars use an 11" gear.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1730686771.jpg


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Clean up from that took so long that they had to postpone the finals until today.

GH85Carrera 11-04-2024 07:01 AM

[QUOTE=Rikao4;12351372]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 12350626)
This young man does a remarkable job. The only thing he can't adequately convey is the noise...

having stood near the line a few times..
'noise' doesn't really do it justice...
your guts will move...:eek:


Rika

The race I watched in person sounded like someone dropping thousands of utility poles from a mile up as they smashed into the ground. It makes your guts and chest vibrate. Just mad amounts of noise.

VINMAN 11-04-2024 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 12351161)
Had to do it. Kalitta losing his life in the shut down and no more land to extend the track tied the NHRA's hands. Even reducing the track to 1000 feet wasn't going to be enough to make that place safe. The cars just got too fast.

But, yeah, an absolute bummer to lose that track.

Or any of the old tracks, like Mile High. Is Seattle next?

Was at that race when that happened. Sad.

One of the main reasons for shutting down the track was noise complaints by new residents in the area. ( the track had only been there for 50 yrs.....)


.

David 11-04-2024 07:15 AM

I always tell people who want to see some form of motorsports: see top fuel, there's nothing like it.

I took my girlfriend, no wife, several years ago. She was somewhat OK with the sound of the pro stock and alcohol cars but then top fuel launched, she leaned into me and said, "I think I'm going to be sick!"

Deschodt 11-04-2024 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VINMAN (Post 12350829)
Top fuel in person is such an incredible experience. Nothing else like it.
.

It's one of those things... Not really my wheelhouse, my crowd, my anything really..
But I went anyway, because I try to keep an open mind.. It blew my mind, what a spectacular experience feeling that power in your chest (rather than hearing it).

Took my wife and kids a few years back so they could experience it also (still not my crowd). Still amazing.

Bob Kontak 11-04-2024 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David (Post 12351410)
She was somewhat OK with the sound of the pro stock and alcohol cars but then top fuel launched, she leaned into me and said, "I think I'm going to be sick!"

It needs to go on the bucket list.

Also the comment that it distorts your vision puts it on the list as well. Probably more decibels than the Saturn V (given 50 yards vs 2 miles - or whatever the setback is for each)

Where do I go? I remember Milan Dragway commercials near Detroit in the way (way) back from CKLW (AM) radio growing up in Toledo.

Has to be accessible with a little bit of effort? Help a brother out.
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stevej37 11-04-2024 01:55 PM

^^^ Post #6
https://www.us131msp.com/
Near Kalamazoo

Sooner or later 11-04-2024 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 12351716)
It needs to go on the bucket list.

Also the comment that it distorts your vision puts it on the list as well. Probably more decibels than the Saturn V (given 50 yards vs 2 miles - or whatever the setback is for each)

Where do I go? I remember Milan Dragway commercials near Detroit in the way (way) back from CKLW (AM) radio growing up in Toledo.

Has to be accessible with a little bit of effort? Help a brother out.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...leys/freak.gif

An hour and a half from North Canton (if you still live there)

June 2025

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