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techman1 12-07-2024 01:56 PM

Electrical Help!!
 
While in the garage, heard a loud pop.
Exterior breaker box soot around it.
No breakers thrown anywhere.
All gfci functional.
What is this attached to the bottom of the exterior service box, as the soot and pop appears to have come from it.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1733612520.jpg

oldE 12-07-2024 02:20 PM

Without pics, I will go out on a limb and guess one side of your 220 entrance has shorted causing a fuse to blow in the entrance box. Time to call a guy.

Best
Les

(Edit: just saw the pic. I got nothing. Never saw one of those before. )

Rusty Heap 12-07-2024 02:40 PM

Glad to help 'splain.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1733611170.jpg

techman1 12-07-2024 03:42 PM

Tomorrow morning I will carefully remove the cover panel and check.

carambola 12-07-2024 04:15 PM

that appears to be a photocell

techman1 12-07-2024 04:28 PM

Not photocell. Spoke to neighbor. Also has one, don’t know what it is.

rfuerst911sc 12-07-2024 04:45 PM

Surge protector ?

techman1 12-07-2024 04:51 PM

Thought something with gfci, or surge, but all service operating normally. 🤯

dad911 12-07-2024 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carambola (Post 12370576)
that appears to be a photocell

To me also, eye turned towards the wall to reduce sensitivity. Pretty common back in the day.

https://static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/...ei=536&wid=536

flatbutt 12-07-2024 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 12370589)
To me also, eye turned towards the wall to reduce sensitivity. Pretty common back in the day.

https://static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/...ei=536&wid=536

What is it's purpose?

techman1 12-07-2024 05:04 PM

Geez guys. Thought not a photocell, but looks exactly like that!!

70SATMan 12-07-2024 05:12 PM

Do you have outdoor landscape lights? What’s the conduit exiting the bottom of the box. If you had automatic nighttime lights, I’m also guessing a photo cell for dusk to dawn turn on.

techman1 12-07-2024 07:51 PM

No landscape lights.
Just took a look in the dark. Will check in light tomorrow but…
Sure seemed like I saw a circular window painted over but facing the inside. WTH is the need ?
Will widen the sample but looks like all the neighbors may have it installed by the builder.

dad911 12-07-2024 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 12370592)
What is it's purpose?

Basically it is wired like a switch. On at dusk off at dawn.

A930Rocket 12-08-2024 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 12370589)
To me also, eye turned towards the wall to reduce sensitivity. Pretty common back in the day.

https://static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/...ei=536&wid=536

That was my first thought as well. We’ve used them for years to turn on exterior lighting.

techman1 12-08-2024 07:25 AM

Appears to be connected to supply, and nothing else. Still a mystery why it is there. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1733671543.jpg

billybek 12-08-2024 07:37 AM

Whole home surge arrestor?
If that is what it was, they are supposed to be wired through a breaker, not unfused and unprotected!

stevej37 12-08-2024 07:49 AM

You'd think it would have gone 'POP' a long time earlier if it was a photo cell wired that way!

billybek 12-08-2024 07:58 AM

I don't think it is a photo cell as there are no switched legs coming off of the the device only line voltage (unfused) leads going in.
That is why I thought that it could be a misapplied whole home surge arrestor or protector.

Radioactive 12-08-2024 08:18 AM

I was thinking some kind of signal bridge like used with the old x10 devices.

idk?

techman1 12-08-2024 08:47 AM

Hmm. Since this is on service side, is it possible utility company installed?
Also, I have seen a signal over power line for a lan bridge. Could this be a type of antenna for the utility company to do drive by reading?

1990C4S 12-08-2024 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by techman1 (Post 12370809)
Hmm. Since this is on service side, is it possible utility company installed?
Also, I have seen a signal over power line for a lan bridge. Could this be a type of antenna for the utility company to do drive by reading?

The remote feature would be part of your meter.

Very unlikely that the utility installed that device, I would guess it was the previous owner.

Steve Carlton 12-08-2024 11:05 AM

Never mind what it is or why it’s there. I’m sending over a replacement.

dad911 12-08-2024 11:07 AM

That is a sub-panel?

I've never seen, nor do I see how it is legal, to have something connected like that unprotected by a breaker.

3rd_gear_Ted 12-08-2024 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 12370865)
that is a sub-panel?

I've never seen, nor do i see how it is legal, to have something connected like that unprotected by a breaker.

+ 1000

techman1 12-08-2024 12:11 PM

Main panel.
As for legal, a walk thru my central Florida neighborhood most of the houses have it !

I also question the safety of that was broken off, and shorted or touched!!!

billybek 01-13-2025 05:54 PM

Did you ever figure out what the slightly charred component was or it's function?


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