Digital Cameras
 

HOW DO I USE A DIGITAL CAMERA??
I WANT TO PUT SOME PICS ON THE PELICAN BBS?
I know there are some pretty good PO's that show
some great Pics, but I really did not know how to use
a camera or put up an IMG.
I found a real helpfully and QUICK OVERVIEW at the following
sight.
HOW TO USE AND BUY A DIGITAL CAMERA
Maybe someone can post up the basics on how to
post an IMG on the PELICAN SIGHT.

Check it out.

Benson

:cool:

First, www.dpreview.com is an excellent source of info on camera options available.

Most folks take high resolution pics with their cameras. Great for printing, but the files are too big to use on most web sites.

After you have uploaded your pictures into your computer, decide which pics you want to post on Pelican and resize them using a program like Photoshop. There are tons of programs that will re-size your pictures, many of them are free. Most new digital cameras come with a program that will do this for you.

Put your re-sized pics (less that 100KB) in a special folder for internet use and give them appropriate names.

When posting on Pelican, click the attach multiple link and it will then let you browse your computer and select pictures to post.

Like: http://www.irfanview.com

It's freeware with no strings attached, and much better to use than most of the "lite" programs that come with cameras.

I have an older 1.2 megapix. Fujifilm. Real basic camera, but shoots great pics! I know they have 2.0+ megapix cameras now: mine is about 5 years old!

Just my $0.42,
-Z.

My Sony will save two images for each picture snapped. One hi-res, and a smaller file-size for emails & posting.

I guess "the best digital camera" is a little open to debate.

You can have a technically superior camera (like my older Olympus Digital SLR C2500-L), yet a cheaper, newer and more user-friendly unit (like my Canon IXUS V2) can take photos that are damned near as good, but without the initial outlay and the aggravation of figuring the unit out. Especially if you're a novice.

Check out the comparative websites, but I'd also go to an electronics superstore and play with a few. One of them will appeal and just feel "right". Beware of any unit that uses AA-batteries, they are not fuel-efficient. I'd look for one that has it's own Lithium Ion power pack (Li-Ion) which is rechargable and will generally last a lot longer. Good Luck!

My Sony has served me very well. If I had a place to upload I could show you pics of some of my work......good photography just takes practice, the more you do it and the more passionate you feel about it, the better the photos come out. Don't be afraid to walk some distance to get a good shot, or climb up the side of a hill to get nice angle/lighting on what you're shooting.

"All" digital cameras seem to have poor zooms. And digital zooms are just like doing a cut of an image. hopefully I'm wrong, i'm holding out for a few years until the zooms are better.

Randy, are your ones scans of photos or done with a digital camers?

Bill, I must say that I am very happy with the zoom feature on my camera. It is a Sony DSC-F505V. They no longer make it, it is the predecessor to the DSC-F707 which a friend has and I have had the opportunity to screw around with, an EXCELLENT camera I might add. You should head down to a local sony retailer and really have a look at the 707, I'm sure you will be impressed by the zoom.

Ummm, 707. We have a few Sony digital cameras here at work and they are nice cameras I have to admit :) One of them saves directly onto a floppy disk so you arn't frigging about with cables and programs.

Maybe my department needs to buy a new one...

the floppy ones are junk, the whole Mavica line as a whole are really crappy cameras. If you're gonna go sony, you have to buy a cybershot.

Get the Casio Exsclim, it is tiny and awesome!

I'd steer clear of anything with SmartMedia cards... ask me how I know. :rolleyes: Luckily, the Olympus takes both SmartMedia and CompactFlash, wheras the IXUS only takes CF cards.

Media cards are for sale at stupidly cheap prices on eBay, too.

I am curious why? I have had nothing but good things to say about the Sart Media cards?

~Eric

The question is so open-ended - depends on what you want to do with the camera.

But I'll tell you what I have and why. We got a Canon G2 (now they have the G3, it is similar). 6 MP, regular knobs and buttons for omst functions (I hate scrolling through menus), has some degree of spotmetering, hot shoe for a flash. Basically, it feels and handles more like a "regular" camera. The bad part is the zoom range is limited (I think they improved that in the G3) and the Canon wide and tele lenses aren't very wide or tele (but you can buy aftermarket). Also, like every consumer digital camera I've seen, the lag between pressing the shutter release and making the exposure is irritatingly long (but you can press the release partway to "pre-focus", thus reducing the lag). Oh, get a 1GB Microdrive (don't have to be IBM brand) as it will hold something like 700 exposures at high resolution - we've never, ever, run out of storage.

I still prefer a normal SLR but I'm waiting for the digital SLRs from Canon and Nikon to offer full-size sensors (CCD or CMOS is the size of a 35mm negative, so the interchangeable lenses give the same perspective as when used on the film 35mm SLRs), appx 13MP images (I've read that is the resolution needed to approximate the information content of most 35mm film), with minimal shutter lag (<1/10 sec) for <$3K. They make such cameras now, for $>$8K.

The Casio Exilim had the most ridiculously quick "shutter response" speed I've seen on a digicam. At least they got that right.

My Canon S10 is well-nigh useless for any type of photography that has any degree of action in it--the shutter lag is somewhere on the order of USPS delivery time.

Takes great pix of sleeping kittens, though.

My olympus C 700 has amazing zoom. Great for taking those way out shots on a race track. 10 X normal zoom and 27 X digital zoom. Full digital zoom is great rez too. Bought the cam really cheep. Check out ebay, there are some sellers over there. Its only a 2.1 mp cam. But it still fills up more than my screen..

Good luck!SmileWavy

Well, they're a notoriously unstable type of storage media. More prone to failure by exposure to changes in temperature and humidity than just about any other type. If you get fingerprints on the gold contact areas, you can ruin the card, or at the very least need to format it again to get it to work.

Plus, they're made in two voltages! 3.0v and 3.3v. wtf? I've wasted a lot of money on SmartMedia and I've got a lot of dud cards now. Luckily my Olympus takes the same CF (CompactFlash) cards (as well as SmartMedia) as my Canon IXUS, so I just use those now. Much more hardy.

Just my $0.02 :cool:

I am certainly no expert, (but always like to learn), but I have been really happy w/ my Canon PowerShot S30. It is easy to use and takes compact flash media, I shoot lots of car pics at fairly high resolution, then shrink them on Irfanview before posting them on the web or emailing them. Here is a typical shot:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1059209367.jpg

Does anyone have any new comments (pro or con) about the digital camera they have?

We are going to get a new one pretty soon and I've been checking several web sites for comparisons.

We currently have a Nikon coolpix800...it does not take the greatest outdoor pics (people are never very clear), it does not have the movie option, and it is kind of bulky...plus we want more MPs.

I also might not have my the camera on the correct settings for outdoor pictures...there are many options & the manual was a bit confusing...so it could be operator error. ;)

Thanks for any suggestions. S~

I've got a Sony Mavica (somthing)CDR(Something)2(something)

It stores images directly to a mini-CDR.

It's 2.1mp with 6x zoom

It was $150 at ChumpUSA

I purchased what I think is a high quality "all around" digital camera for my wife last Christmas.

What was important to me were the following:

Standard batteries (as opposed to a proprietary format....Expensive!):
The camera I purchased uses AA. Can't get more standard than that. That coupled with and inexpensive 1-hour Ni-MH charger worked out great.

Standard, well accepted Memory format: SD ($64 for 256M @Costco) This format is slated to get much cheaper as they are soon releasing 1 and 2 gig versions.

Highest optical zoom for the money

Highest pixel count: IMO, more is better. You can reduce to whatever size without loss. But it doesn't work the other way around.

Fast refresh/recovery: How quickly can you snap multiple shots? My wifes camera could be better. Variables that influence this include Red eye (three flashes), use of flash in the first place, Cameras ability to store images to memory quickly. I believe most cameras will post this in specs. A SDRAM buffer is the typical approach to shortening this time (The newer version uses this technology). This aspect of the cameras performance is extremely important when taking action/moving shots.

Price: under $500

Epinions.com is a great place to read owner reviews. It influenced my purchase immensly.

BTW, the camera is a Minolta Dimage ($450 last Dec). I can't recall the model but it is the predecessor of the now highly rated S414 (approx $250).

Thank you...all of this helps.

I shoot the Nikon Cool-pix 4500. It's a 4 mega-pixel camera that has features that the most advanced amateur photographer will seldom use. It has a 4X Optical zoom and It has the ability to utilize an accessory 24mm wide angle lense, for those tight spots in small rooms or if you want to photograph an entire car and not have to stand so far away. I like the camera's articulating lense allowing for shooting pictures out of the sunroof or out the driver's window while driving. The macro capabilities of this camera are among the best in of the digital cameras allowing the 4500 to focus up to 3/4" away. I have two of the Lithium-ion battery packs as like all digital cameras the power consumption is pretty intense.
This camera takes compact flash memory cards which I keep a couple 256k and a half dozen 128k cards. It's best to see as many of these camera's as possible to see how they operate and evaluate what works best with what you want to achieve with your digital camera.

One of the best digital camera websites is www.dpreview.com. The reviews are a bit too long, but have lots of information.

To me, the key things are:
- Controls that make sense to you. Some people like on-screen menus, some people like knobs.
- Viewfinder that feels right to you. I hate holding the camera up to my face and staring at blank plastic because the viewfinder is a tiny little rectangle that isn't easily found. Of course there's the LCD, but in bright sunlight the optical viewfinder is often better.
- Size and weight appropriate for your use. You can get a tiny little thing the size of a stack of business cards, or a digital SLR that is as big as any film camera. The latter will take better pictures, but not if you leave it at home.
- Short delay between pressing the shutter button and the exposure. The dpreview reviews always measure and report this. (The delay is the auto-focus system working.)
- Short delay between one exposure and the next exposure ("shot-to-shot"). (The delay is writing the data to the storage card, or in better cameras to internal buffer memory.)
- Lots of exposures per each battery charge. (I think this is more important than the battery type. If you can take >200 pictures on one charge, and can remember to charge the camera, then you won't need to change batteries.)
- Decent pixel count. I think 4-5 megapixels is plenty for most consumer digital cameras, because as the pixel count gets higher the CCD or CMOS chip that captures the image is not getting bigger, so each receptor is getting smaller, and image quality actually starts to suffer at some point. I believe, at present, you have to get a quasi-professional-level digital camera before having more than 5 or so MP is really worthwhile. My info could be outdated, though.
- Compact Flash storage. This size card gives you a choice between solid-state flash memory and tiny hard drives (microdrives). The flash memory is more expensive ($300 for 1GB versus $200) and you'll soon be able to get microdrives in >4GB sizes. 1GB storage means you can store several hundred photos at 4 megapixel resolution, using JPG format - that would be a whole bagful of exposed film rolls.
- An adequate optical zoom range. I tend to value the ability to get a nice wide angle more than the ability to get a nice long telephoto. When you need a wide angle, there's usually no alternative. On the telephoto side, you can usually walk closer. For subjects that you can't approach (wild animals, race cars on track, etc) the telephotos in digital cameras usually aren't long enough anyway.
- If you are leaning toward a larger, more full-featured camera, then might as well consider a hotshoe for an external flash, the ability to attach accessory wide-angle and telephoto lenses.

I really like the new Canon G5, but I haven't loked at the other cameras suggested here. I also really like the latest crop of digital SLRs with interchangeable lenses (Canon and Nikon) but I'm still holding out for the technology to get better.

Digital camera technology is moving at quite a pace. Each new product has features found on more expensive cameras at lower prices. Here are a few things that come to mind when you're shopping around for a camera. Be aware that everyone's needs and priorities are a bit different:

Don't get sold on Mp specs. Like hi-fi, one can get caught up in audio power (watts), when in fact power is but only one aspect of audio "quality". Here's a link that visually shows the difference between a 2-3-4 and 5 Mp image. It's not much.

http://www.digitalsecrets.net/secrets/SizeMatters.html

I might pay more attention to:

Camera response: lag time at "shutter release", write speed after image capture and perhaps (for some) lag time from switch ON.

Range of zoom: You pay more for more range - period. Whether having a 10x zoom is important is up to you. If you're shooting car races, a longer zoom is advantageous. If you're shooting friends, family and landscapes, a shorter zoom range is all you should need.

Minimum angle of view: Most zooms have a max. wide angle view of around 35mm (35mm equivalent). In the 35mm world, that's a normal lense - not nearly wide enough for a lot of shots. I look for point-and-shoots with a wide zoom angle. Not too many, so that helps narrow the search.

Image quality: Overall, most cameras create very acceptable images. However, compared with more modestly priced cameras, some high-end cameras don't have the optics to back up their cost.

I misplaced the website that allows you to compare standardized images from two digital cameras in a split screen - big list of consumer to pro level cameras.If anyone has that URL, please let me know. Quite enlightening.

Battery type and life: I'm still partial to commonly available AA size batteries. The NiMH batteries are being made with more capacity, and the AA size compartment means alkalines are there for emergency, backup purposes. Some digital cameras, however, are very power-hungry while others can last for many hours even with the LCD screen lit.

Moveable LCD screen: Nice feature for those creative camera angles.

Budget: That's up to you. You figure out what's the biggest bang for the buck.

Here's a camera that's worth following as it's not yet released. Olympus C5060. Only 4x zoom, but the wide angle is 27mm - I believe the widest of any fixed zoom lens camera; very quick response time, moveable LCD screen. List $700. Check the independent reviews before buying.
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0309/03092902olympusc5060.asp

No affiliation, just interest.

Sherwood Lee
http://members.rennlist.org/911pcars

I have one of those little metal Cannons that cost about $399 new.

The thing just rocks...very reliable, takes great shots and is made of METAL...so its very sturdy. Takes little movies too.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/s110.html