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widebody911 12-29-2017 06:18 AM

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flipper35 12-29-2017 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 9865086)

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flatbutt 12-29-2017 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 9865093)

wow, just wow

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john70t 12-29-2017 08:21 AM

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john70t 12-29-2017 08:22 AM

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Seahawk 12-29-2017 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 9865286)

Friend of mine was the Chief Test Pilot on that aircraft (all but the top picture are in NAS Patuxent River.

They nick-named the aircraft "Monica".

john70t 12-29-2017 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 9865308)
Friend of mine was the Chief Test Pilot on that aircraft

Other than abysmal range, were there any shortcomings?
On paper the JSF was supreme.

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Seahawk 12-29-2017 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 9865333)
Other than abysmal range, were there any shortcomings?
On paper the JSF was supreme.

My wife was on the source selection committee...the air frame and propulsion were workable, the avionics, helmet, etc. became a nightmare.

Still are.

GH85Carrera 12-29-2017 10:08 AM

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kach22i 12-29-2017 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 9865350)
My wife was on the source selection committee...the air frame and propulsion were workable, the avionics, helmet, etc. became a nightmare.

Still are.

The special I saw on it a few years ago had a Boeing engineer saying that had to have "an invention a day" to keep the program on track. The large one piece carbon fiber wing going into the autoclave didn't exactly scream "mass production".

In the end an author paraphrased an old adage; if it looks right it will fly right.

Meaning that the plane has got to look cool enough to recruit new pilots and get funding for.

As yet another example of "looks matter" I suspect some of the YF-22 and YF-23 selection process had to do with the YF-22 looking macho and the YF-23 looking effeminate.

No separate lift-fan on the Boeing X-32 was a pretty cool thing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/37745n/boeing_x32/
http://harcirepulo.hu/F-35/X-32%2BX-35.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-32
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The two X-32 aircraft featured a delta wing design. However, eight months into construction of the concept demonstrator aircraft, the JSF's maneuverability and payload requirements were refined at the request of the Navy and Boeing's delta wing design fell short of the new targets...............

The X-32B achieved STOVL flight in much the same way as the AV-8B Harrier II with thrust vectoring of the jet exhaust.
Somebody moved the goal posts, and that's the way to win the game folks.

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kach22i 12-29-2017 10:42 AM

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kach22i 12-29-2017 10:48 AM

Bell XF-109 (Mock-Up)
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/415386765606988533/
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Bell XF-109 VTOL Fighter Brochure and Mock-up Inspection Program (1959)
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In our final article in a series on the Bell D188A/Model 2000 (a.k.a. XF-109 / XF3L—both spurious designations invented by the Bell marketing department) supersonic VTOL fighter of the late 1950s, we present a brochure and mock-up inspection guide dating from February 1959.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_military _aircraft_(1960%E2%80%9374)
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kach22i 12-29-2017 10:56 AM

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Seahawk 12-29-2017 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 9865456)
In the end an author paraphrased an old adage; if it looks right it will fly right.

Meaning that the plane has got to look cool enough to recruit new pilots and get funding for.

As yet another example of "looks matter" I suspect some of the YF-22 and YF-23 selection process had to do with the YF-22 looking macho and the YF-23 looking effeminate.

The rumor was exactly that. Never confirmed, never will be confirmed!

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porsche930dude 12-29-2017 01:17 PM

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porsche930dude 12-29-2017 01:22 PM

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URY914 12-29-2017 02:00 PM

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astrochex 12-29-2017 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 9865350)
My wife was on the source selection committee...the air frame and propulsion were workable, the avionics, helmet, etc. became a nightmare.

Still are.

Oh, thats fascinating. As a Boeing employee at the time (not involved with JSF), myself and fellow employees were very disappointed in the appearance of our offering. Can you say why Monica was the nickname?

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Baz 12-29-2017 03:10 PM

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flatbutt 12-29-2017 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 9865710)

I simply cannot imagine what it must feel like to be in command of such a machine.


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