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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10649295)

When a biker thinks a car has done them wrong, trying to retaliate doesn't seem like the smartest thing. I would think as a biker, you'd need to be smarter and better than folks in cars to stay safe.

I agree, back off or flee if you are the biker.

I don't see a lot of lane splitting here in Michigan, guess our traffic isn't that bad. However, I have seen it once or twice and I think the rider had a death wish - idiotic.

Back in 1983 when a cop car tried to get me to go over the speed limit by tailgating me, he either on purpose or by accident made contact with my rear tire. I almost lost control and the cop car backed off. In fear for my life I down shifted and sped off doing 100 mph in a 45 mph zone - the cop did not give pursuit, I sort of wish he had so I could have my day in court. Two cops in the car, and only one of me, I'm sure they would have lied their tails off. Cops always lie in court, and I am unfit for jury duty as a result of my experiences.

Court: Drop charges against Detroit cops who lied
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2016/06/22/court-drop-charges-detroit-cops-lied/86260824/
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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10649628)

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Does this work better?

Nope, no better. :D

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10649661)

Does this work better?

Nope, no better. :D

Sorry!

Here's another....:p

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 10648767)

The A-hole on the bike deserves to be a wet spot on the pavement.
A big, long red smear. With lots and lots of tire tracks through what was once him.
And racoons and rats eating up what little is left.
If a two-wheel doosh ever kicks my car like that, I'll do the time.

And if a motorcyclist like myself witnessed you trying to kill someone with your car, you would never get the opportunity to "do the time". I would put a bullet in your head without hesitation.

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10649027)

Well, the bike rider was eventually arrested
https://scvnews.com/2018/02/28/chp-arrests-suspected-motorcyclist-in-highway-14-road-rage-crash/

As well he should have been. No excuse for his behavior. It makes all of us look bad. The man is clearly a punk. That does not, however, mean he deserves to get run over.

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10649027)

Dude, that's a bit harsh. I know I've heard of bike riders kicking cars or carrying pockets full of change, nuts and bolts, etc... to toss at cars. I have even seen a video where biker kicked a car which caused him to lay it down.

I'm sure the bikers felt slighted. Of course, to attack someone in a car while you're on a bike is beyond stupid.

More than just a "bit harsh". Unfortunately, however, there are plenty out there who would actually react this way, in the moment. Unable to control their emotions and think clearly, going straight into the "red mist" over any such affront. Out there driving among us...

In light of that (but obviously not just for that reason), motorcyclists like this are not just "stupid", they are infinitely beyond stupid. And extremely cowardly. Too many kick doors, smash mirrors, throw rocks, etc. because they know they can get away, especially in heavy traffic. Worthless punks, and a blight on our community. If a guy doesn't have the nut sack to get off the bike and address whoever they think may have slighted them, then eff 'em. Running them over with your car, however, crosses the line.

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10649027)

And then there's this

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Pretty infamous story in motorcycling circles. The guy is rotting in prison and still showing absolutely no remorse. Again, if I witnessed something like that, I would have put him out of our misery.

Folks using their cars as a weapon against motorcyclists are a special kind of cowardly cretin. There isn't much, short of shooting at you, that a motorcyclist can do from the saddle of his bike as he is riding past you. Granted, too many cowardly cretins on motorcycles damage cars because they know they can get away. I've suffered that kind of damage to my car, as a matter of fact. Flat pisses you off, for damn sure. But it's never worth the guy's life, no matter how temporarily satisfying that may be.

Anyway, enough of that. Time for some butterflies and schitt... ;)

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 10649891)

And if a motorcyclist like myself witnessed you trying to kill someone with your car, you would never get the opportunity to "do the time". I would put a bullet in your head without hesitation.

As well he should have been. No excuse for his behavior. It makes all of us look bad. The man is clearly a punk. That does not, however, mean he deserves to get run over.

More than just a "bit harsh". Unfortunately, however, there are plenty out there who would actually react this way, in the moment. Unable to control their emotions and think clearly, going straight into the "red mist" over any such affront. Out there driving among us...

In light of that (but obviously not just for that reason), motorcyclists like this are not just "stupid", they are infinitely beyond stupid. And extremely cowardly. Too many kick doors, smash mirrors, throw rocks, etc. because they know they can get away, especially in heavy traffic. Worthless punks, and a blight on our community. If a guy doesn't have the nut sack to get off the bike and address whoever they think may have slighted them, then eff 'em. Running them over with your car, however, crosses the line.

Pretty infamous story in motorcycling circles. The guy is rotting in prison and still showing absolutely no remorse. Again, if I witnessed something like that, I would have put him out of our misery.

Folks using their cars as a weapon against motorcyclists are a special kind of cowardly cretin. There isn't much, short of shooting at you, that a motorcyclist can do from the saddle of his bike as he is riding past you. Granted, too many cowardly cretins on motorcycles damage cars because they know they can get away. I've suffered that kind of damage to my car, as a matter of fact. Flat pisses you off, for damn sure. But it's never worth the guy's life, no matter how temporarily satisfying that may be.

Anyway, enough of that. Time for some butterflies and schitt... ;)

oooooohhhhh,

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1573163066.jpg

lemme know if you need directions

Here's how one tough guy like Sammy wound up:

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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2017/04/06/granbury-man-who-said-i-don-t-care-after-swerving-into-motorcyclists-is-headed-to-prison/

A Granbury man who said he was reacting to an insect bite when he veered his car into a motorcycle that was passing him will be going to prison.

A Hood County jury convicted William Sam Crum, 69, of two counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. He was sentenced Thursday to 15 years in prison, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported.

You would be crying like a little girl, Sammy. And that's before the bikers in there stop by to welcome you.

I see it different:
1). Nissan crossed a double yellow hump to illegally enter the HOV lane, without looking or caring.
2). There was a motorcycle already there. It was his lane.
3). Nissan did not even slow down and yield, but intentionally kept merging into him and got kicked.
4). Nissan then attempted murder and ended up smashing several other cars with victims in the process.
5). Nissan driver should go to jail for a long time.

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This area is full of motorcycles - all different kinds and along with that different riders.

Anything you can say about the dumb stuff I see -- can be equally applied to BOTH 2 and 4 wheel operators.

Ultimately the same mental defect exists not matter how many wheels you're driving.

I'm currently owned by 6 motorcycles.....4 of which are ridden routinely.....but my daily driver is my Silverado....so I see it from both sides.

Funny story that happened about 4-5 years ago. I was driving the Silverado west on SR44 which gets a bit clogged until you get past Home Depot so sometimes you are changing lanes a bit to get past the bottlenecks. I guess a Harley rider was doing the same thing behind me a bit but I stayed ahead of him by a good bit but for some reason (I guess) he got offended when I passed a slow car with him already in the passing lane - although no way did I not see him let alone cut him off. He came up next to me and was jawing away which I basically ignored until it was clear he was making it his mission to cling to my side and continue his ranting so after a while letting him go on and on I finally rolled my window down, smiled, and shot him the bird. He had the biker gear on and I guess the mentality I have seen here and thought he could intimidate me. Wrong. But no way would I ever use my vehicle - whether 2 or more wheels - to take advantage of another operator. My philosophy is to simply leave them behind and out of mind.

When I'm on any of my 'scooters' I try to steer as clear from others as possible. No matter how many wheels they're driving.

Random:

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10649949)

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I like where this is going...

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We all know there are too many angry motorists out there. It's foolish to engage them, whether on two or four wheels.

We also all know Sammy really is just full of schitt, but we love him anyways. No way would he actually run over a guy on a bike on purpose, just for kicking his door. He just loves to huff and puff all over the internet, that's all. So I made his day and gave him something to be angry about. Sammy is not happy unless he's angry.

You're welcome, Sammy. SmileWavy