Hey check out Gogar in today's NYT

[Gogar]

Here's a fun article penned by my friend Matt. Enjoy maybe! Sorry bout the paywall

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/03/arts/music/human-songwriting-ai-songwriting.html

[Baz]

Very cool, Jeremy! Will check out later this weekend when time allows. Good to see someone like you get some copy!

[LWJ]

Fun premise. I could only read the first page or so???

Answer: when AI can't deliver the correct hamburger order, I suspect it can't write sweet hooks or catchy lyrics. Yet.

[Gogar]

Originally Posted by LWJ

Answer: when AI can't deliver the correct hamburger order, I suspect it can't write sweet hooks or catchy lyrics. Yet.

Well that's the thing. The AI has scraped the entire internet and listened to every song ever recorded, so it's very good at compiling and spitting out stuff, but the argument is whether or not the it can recreate the inaccuracy or humanity that we just naturally create in our analog existence. There's some amazing AI music out there but it usually lacks staying power or the depth created by (IMO) our analog "failures."

Just like your fast food hamburger will keep you alive and it's really tasty in the moment but lacks real nutrition.

[wdfifteen]

AI can probably write a modern popular country song. With a few break-out exceptions, they all sound like the same song with different lyrics.

[Cajundaddy]

Nice! Good to get you in print on this. As a fellow musician I struggle with the AI product. The purpose of music IMO is the human connection and I have not yet seen how AI facilitates this in a meaningful way. But I could be wrong...

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Gogar

Well that's the thing. The AI has scraped the entire internet and listened to every song ever recorded, so it's very good at compiling and spitting out stuff, but the argument is whether or not the it can recreate the inaccuracy or humanity that we just naturally create in our analog existence. There's some amazing AI music out there but it usually lacks staying power or the depth created by (IMO) our analog "failures."

Just like your fast food hamburger will keep you alive and it's really tasty in the moment but lacks real nutrition.

Very well put, AI is like bad fast food.

I've heard that spotify uses a AI created music (not sure if any is created by spotify or if it's all from other folks or what). I use Pandora, and have had Pandora add a couple (2, maybe 3) songs to some of my "stations" that initially seemed OK if I wasn't paying attention, but if I was paying attention to the music seemed "off" somehow (nothing that I could put my finger on). Then looking at band names and/or album covers, they seemed ever more off. A little research revealed them to be AI, so I promptly gave them the old "thumbs down" so Pandora wouldn't play them any more.

AI stuff is impressive, but I'm not interested in it.

[LWJ]

I am reading a pretty great noir style book currently. Released the same year as I, 1966. It is gritty. It features characters and settings that are completely authentic. The prose is flawed. The summation is perfect.

AI would polish out the rough spots and rough up the polished spots so that it wasn't as good. My daughter is an aspiring writer. She really hates AI. Because she thinks it will render her useless. I think WD15 hits the nail on the head. Countrypop? AI has that covered. Crappy fiction. Yep. Soul fulfilling, and unsettling art? It has a while to go to figure that out.

[Paul_Heery]

He’s a pro: He’s put out snacks.

A very important requirement for a songwriting/recording session.

Great article!

[rattlsnak]

They already have full channels on Spotify, etc that feature strictly 100% AI created songs. Hate to say it, but most of them are really good!

[john70t]

Originally Posted by LWJ

Fun premise. I could only read the first page or so???

I also wanted to read more. But couldn't.
Does ad revenue not exist anymore?

I want to spend my 'money' on humans: Cashiers. Musicians. Actors. Ditchdiggers. whatever. People doing real work for the good.

[Gogar]

Try this one

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/03/arts/music/human-songwriting-ai-songwriting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.F1E.TjES. 9NZO8MJv2ajO&smid=nytcore-ios-share