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Walter Reed protests?

Anti-war demonstrators have been protesting outside Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C. since March. Walter Reed houses hundreds of seriously wounded Iraq war veterans, including those with multiple amputations, etc. The protester's signs read: "Maimed for Lies" and "Enlist here and die for Halliburton," etc. Do you agree that these bedwetters are way out of line protesting soldiers who are trying to recover both physically and mentally or do you think that they are totally justified in their protests..regardless of the effect on the injured soldiers...Is this another example of the famed liberal alibi "I support the troops, but not the war?"

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Time and place for everything; this is the wrong place IMO.
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I did some searching. Doesn't look like they're protesting against the wounded, but against the war (duh) and to draw attention to the human dumping dumping ground that is Walter Reed. Of course that's irrelevant, since anyone who raises so much as a whiper against GWB is a traitor.

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Thom, I don't think the point is to beat up on protesters in general, I think that these specific protesters are being rude. I mean, they're waving signs out in front of a hospital, for crying out loud. Those guys were following orders, and now they're paying the price for the war. They had nothing to do with the decision to go in, and they have nothign to do with the decision to get out. I can't complain about protests in front of the White House, but in front of a hospital? Come on, have some decency.
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I would say that it is inappropriate for them to be protesting outside the hospital like that. What do they hope to accomplish? Any reasonably conscience person would be offended right or left.
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I don't think Walter Reed is an appropriate place for these protests.

However, do note that the Administration and its supporters are willing to use war casualties to make their point as well. For example, President Bush's recent speech:

We have lost 1,864 members of our armed forces in Operation Iraqi Freedom and 223 in Operation Enduring Freedom . . . Each of these men and women left grieving families and loved ones back home . . . We owe them something. We will finish the task that they gave their lives for."

Here Bush is saying "if you don't support me and my conduct of the war, you are unpatriotic and dishonor the war dead". I don't find that a very appealing act either.
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I agree that they should not be protesting there out of sensitivity to the wounded soldiers and their families who might not share (the protesters') views. I personally would put those people's feelings above other considerations, but some protesters don't see this.

Still, to say that they are "protesting soldiers" is inaccurate, in fact it shows extreme bias and willful lying on your part to get your point across. But that's nothing new.
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002452806_bases26.html?syndication=rss&source=seattletimes.xml&items=166
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WASHINGTON — Siding with the Pentagon, the base-closing commission voted yesterday to shut down the Army's historic Walter Reed Medical Center, saying soldiers today need a more modern facility.
A group called "Code Pink" has organized the protest:
http://www.codepink4peace.org/

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The vigilers have often received encouragement from the wounded soldiers and their families, who often join the vigil themselves. “The first time I attended one of the vigils, a soldier’s wife invited me to come inside and visit her severely wounded husband,” said Medea Benjamin of CODEPINK. “He shared his worries about the care he would get when he returned to his hometown and the financial burden on his family, and he thanked us for being there. His parting words were ‘Please don’t forget us like veterans of other wars have been forgotten.’”

In recent weeks, the vigil has attracted some people who have tried to change the tone and message of the vigil, including yelling and holding up inappropriate signs. The organizers have asked the newcomers to be respectful and wonder if they might indeed be infiltrators whose aim is to disrupt the vigil.
Looks like they want public awareness and more funding for the wounded....................
I can see how some people are against this, I guess.



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I would say that it is inappropriate for them to be protesting outside the hospital like that. What do they hope to accomplish? Any reasonably conscience person would be offended right or left.
What I find much more offensive is 1000s of people killed and maimed to the point where they wish they were dead, (Iraqis and troops), while the cocknockers in Washington who thought that this invasion was a good idea are on vacation eating prime rib and saying, "oh well, win some/lose some".....

And infiltrators? Nah, Karl Rove would never do something like that just to make the other side look bad......

I'd like to see his fat ass getting fitted for some artificial limbs, that would be poetic justice.
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Darn those people demonstrating for better care for wounded veterans!

The nerve!
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Still, to say that they are "protesting soldiers" is inaccurate, in fact it shows extreme bias and willful lying on your part to get your point across. But that's nothing new.
Please explain how I am lying. I posted the very words off of their signs. How you could possibly claim that people protesting in front of the Veteran's Hospital with signs saying "Maimed for Lies" and "Enlist here and die for Halliburton" could be construed by any reasonable person to be anything other than "protesting soldiers" is beyond me (of course, that would exclude you and your ilk). Once again you take the low road and once again you demonstrate that you would not know the truth if it slapped you in your face.
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Here is the same group protesting at Ft Bragg...putting coffins where they are sure to be viewed by the dead and maimed soldier's children and spouses:
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Please explain how I am lying.
You are still posting.

Just about everything you post has some untrue twist to it, why we still bother to correct you is a mystery.

I'm sure if I took the time to address your latest mud toss I'd prove you wrong - don't have the time today.

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... I'd like to see his fat ass getting fitted for some artificial limbs, that would be poetic justice.
Wishing dismemberment on another person??? Nice.

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Not sure why Code Pink's motives are being questioned. Yes, they protest the war at other locations, but at VA hospitals, they are protesting the administrations cuts in medical funding to veterans.

http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?id=476

I think anyone who actually 'supports the troops' should be concerned that funding per veteran is dropping fast under this administration.
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You are still posting.

Just about everything you post has some untrue twist to it, why we still bother to correct you is a mystery.

I'm sure if I took the time to address your latest mud toss I'd prove you wrong - don't have the time today.

Been there, done that.
You imply that you have ever...even once proven me wrong about anything...which is untrue in itself. I love the way libs always call others liars...but can never seem to prove it...Too bad your info uis n ot as good as your name-calling...but then you wouldn't be a liberal...now would you? Whiney liberals here always post something lame like "You are liar but I just don't have time to post why..." LOL. What do you think that makes you?
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Not sure why Code Pink's motives are being questioned. Yes, they protest the war at other locations, but at VA hospitals, they are protesting the administrations cuts in medical funding to veterans.

http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?id=476

I think anyone who actually 'supports the troops should be concerned that funding per veteran is dropping fast under this administration.
Yes, I like the way they have started throwing in a few signs about medical funding at the hospitals to counter all their bad publicity from protesting at VA hospitals. Face it, they are, and have always been anti-war protesters (not prom military benefit supporters..LOL)....and the signs posted above prove it...regardless of how many times they tell us now..that they are actually supporting the soldiers....I imagine you think that guys who have lost multiple limbs appreciate the "maimed for lie" signs thrust in their faces when the leave the hospital.
That is the problem with you liberals...you will to find a way to defend any action that supports your politics...regardless of how sick it is. This ranks right up with defending the terrorists as "freedom fighters." Democrats will never be a viable party until they begin to face, and tell the truth.
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You imply that you have ever...even once proven me wrong about anything...which is untrue in itself. I love the way libs always call others liars...but can never seem to prove it...Too bad your info uis n ot as good as your name-calling...but then you wouldn't be a liberal...now would you? Whiney liberals here always post something lame like "You are liar but I just don't have time to post why..." LOL. What do you think that makes you?
The only whiner here is you, pal. You just never STFU, the prototypical "paid by the word" party hack. Baghdad Bob's got nothing on you.

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