Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Southern Class & Sass
 
Dixie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bradenton, FL
Posts: 4,147
Garage
I think we lost something along the way.

I looked at those twin SU carbs, and tried to remember how they work. I couldn't remember much. Sure, my daddy and I rebuilt a pair, but that was fifty years ago. Standing there I realized I was had likely let my mouth write checks my memory couldn't cash.

Wyatt isn't a car guy, but he has an old Spitfire. Judging by the dust covering it I'd guess it was last started well over a year ago. Yesterday, inspired by my tales of automobiles past, Wyatt decided we should remedy that. So we checked the oil, the coolant, and hooked up a new battery. Wyatt turned the key. The motor turned vigorously, but refused to start. That's when I looked at those carbs and realized things were close to exceeding my ability. Worse, I might have to get dirty, and surely break a nail or two. Oh the horror! Remembering that the piston in the carbs is somehow connected to the jet needles, I picked one up a bit. Wyatt turned the key. It started, eventually settling into a rough idle.

Our success made me miss a time when cars where simple. A time when you knew how things worked by simply looking at how they fit together. A time when you could verify there was gas in the tank using a stick. A time when even an old cowboy, and an old rose, could get a dormant car running again.

__________________
Dixie
Bradenton, FL
2013 Camaro ZL1

Last edited by Dixie; Yesterday at 07:25 AM..
Old Yesterday, 07:18 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered ConfUser
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Waterlogged
Posts: 24,048
The good ol' days!

Back when the owners manual included instructions on how to do a valve adjustment. As compared to a modern owners manual that reminds you not to drink the battery water.
__________________
Mike
“I wouldn’t want to live under the conditions a person could get used to”. -My paternal grandmother having immigrated to America shortly before WWll.
Old Yesterday, 07:32 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
HobieMarty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Opelika, Alabama
Posts: 5,521
Yep, gotta check the oil in those dashpots, they'll get ya every time.
You and Wyatt wanna work on a TR6???

Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk
__________________
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men."
Wonka
Old Yesterday, 07:52 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
LWJ LWJ is online now
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lake Oswego, OR
Posts: 6,379
I worked on a set of SU's Saturday! And? The car didn't start. Yet.
Old Yesterday, 08:11 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Southern Class & Sass
 
Dixie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bradenton, FL
Posts: 4,147
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by HobieMarty View Post
Yep, gotta check the oil in those dashpots, they'll get ya every time.
You and Wyatt wanna work on a TR6???
Lordy, no, haha. Yesterday I realized my best skill is still in standing there looking pretty.

As the saying goes, men's ability is in lifting heavy things. Women's ability is in getting men to lift heavy things.
__________________
Dixie
Bradenton, FL
2013 Camaro ZL1
Old Yesterday, 08:17 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
HobieMarty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Opelika, Alabama
Posts: 5,521


Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk
__________________
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men."
Wonka
Old Yesterday, 08:21 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
jyl jyl is online now
Registered
 
jyl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Nor California & Pac NW
Posts: 25,003
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
Lordy, no, haha. Yesterday I realized my best skill is still in standing there looking pretty.

As the saying goes, men's ability is in lifting heavy things. Women's ability is in getting men to lift heavy things.
Next level is standing here looking pretty as the men hand you drinks between lifting heavy things!
__________________
1989 3.2 Carrera coupe; 1988 Westy Vanagon, Zetec; 1986 E28 M30; 1994 W124; 2004 S211
What? Uh . . . “he” and “him”?
Old Yesterday, 08:46 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Get off my lawn!
 
GH85Carrera's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 86,537
Garage
I had carb cars from age 16 to age 19 when I bought my 74 914 2.0. Fuel injection is superior in all respects except maybe visual with the 6 one barrels of a early 911.

Then in 1991 I bough my El Camino. It had a Rotten-chester carb that never ran very well. Lots of hesitation, and cold weather starts really sucked. I even visited the local "carb guru" and had him rebuilt it, tune it, and install it. It still would bog down when trying to cross a busy road, nail the throttle and sit in fear as it coughed though about going and finally it decided to go.

In 2011 I had enough and built my own cobbled together throttle body system. Most of it came from a S-10. I had to find "a guy" to burn me a custom chip to work with my engine - transmission and engage lockup only in 4th gear at 50 MPH and above.

For the last 15 years it has been virtually flawless. I had to replace the throttle position switch which cost about $25. It did not have the Porsche tax.

Carbs are neat at WOT to hear the intake scream.
__________________
Glen
50 Year member of the Porsche Club of America
1985 911 Carrera; 2017 Macan
1986 El Camino with Fuel Injected 350 Crate Engine
My Motto: I will never be too old to have a happy childhood!
Old Yesterday, 09:41 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
wdfifteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 29,976
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by HobieMarty View Post
Yep, gotta check the oil in those dashpots, they'll get ya every time.
I miss the arguments about what is the best oil to put in the dashpots (10 wt . )
__________________
.
Old Yesterday, 09:54 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
Zeke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Long Beach CA, the sewer by the sea.
Posts: 38,415
What's an "old rose?"

Never understood the vacuum controlled dash pots of an SU carb. Wired to the throttle as on a motorcycle makes more sense to me.

Therefore, sounds like Wyatt's car has some compression issues as in not enough intake manifold vacuum. I suffer this on a SBC with a big cam. The overlap kills the vacuum at starting revolutions.
__________________
Comment below and don't forget to like and subscribe.
Old Yesterday, 10:42 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Model Citizen
 
herr_oberst's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: The Voodoo Lounge
Posts: 19,670
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
Women's ability is in getting men to lift heavy things.
We can open jars, too!
__________________
"I would be a tone-deaf heathen if I didn't call the engine astounding. If it had been invented solely to make noise, there would be shrines to it in Rome"
Old Yesterday, 10:50 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered
 
wdfifteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 29,976
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixie View Post

As the saying goes, men's ability is in lifting heavy things. Women's ability is in getting men to lift heavy things.
Ha ha! I've spent my life being asked by one woman or another to lift this or move that. Not necessarily happy to oblige, I get the proper tool - handcart, pry bar, come-along - and magically perform the task without any manly-man-level effort required.
They never consider the possibility that they could do it themselves if they just used the right tool. I think their mothers trained them that way.
__________________
.
Old Yesterday, 12:34 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
 
LWJ LWJ is online now
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lake Oswego, OR
Posts: 6,379
Having spent many hours with the carbs on my 65 MGB, I have a fondness for twin SU's. If the throttle shafts and bushes are not worn and leaking air, they work well. And, are easy to tune. Me? I was broke and my carbs were shot. So I spent lots of pointless hours with them!
Old Yesterday, 02:09 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Southern Class & Sass
 
Dixie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bradenton, FL
Posts: 4,147
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by jyl View Post
Next level is standing here looking pretty as the men hand you drinks between lifting heavy things!
Damn it! There's always somebody willing to remind me I'm not that pretty, but usually it's a female. Ugh, and lol.
__________________
Dixie
Bradenton, FL
2013 Camaro ZL1
Old Yesterday, 02:30 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: NY
Posts: 7,447
Spitfires came with ZS. Someone swapped them puppies…
Old Yesterday, 03:03 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Southern Class & Sass
 
Dixie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bradenton, FL
Posts: 4,147
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan A View Post
Spitfires came with ZS. Someone swapped them puppies…
Since you're a Spitfire expert, okay. My extremely limited understanding is only the later years came with SZ carbs. Then again, I'm not even sure what year Spitfire Wyatt owns. Maybe they're swapped, maybe they're not. I'm just hoping you'll explain how this nuance is relevant to the story?
__________________
Dixie
Bradenton, FL
2013 Camaro ZL1
Old Yesterday, 03:42 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: NY
Posts: 7,447
It wasn't. It was an observation is all.

Why not take the chip off your shoulder - you'll feel lighter for it.
Old Yesterday, 05:10 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Registered
 
Bill Douglas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: bottom left corner of the world
Posts: 22,985
The good ole days. More like the bad ole days. I hated working on SUs. The stupid needle dropping out etc. Bless fuel injection I say.
Old Today, 12:24 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
Registered
 
A930Rocket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Mount Pleasant, South Carolina
Posts: 15,033
I remember synchronizing the carburetors on my Triumph and Z cars. I still have my synchronizer, but it’s gone the way of the dwell meter, etc. It hasn’t been used in ages.


Old Today, 03:46 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:42 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.