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bell 03-05-2006 11:10 PM

supersonic flyby
 
http://media.putfile.com/Supersonic--F14--flyby

f-14 style :)

kach22i 03-06-2006 03:02 AM

The audio was better than other similar videos I've seen.

Cool.

svandamme 03-06-2006 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts
Neat video, but it doesn't look like it's going 761 miles per hour...

-Wayne


if anything it must ave been very,very close...
i did not hear sound untill the plane was right next to the boat.
that alone would indicate supersonic... no?

onewhippedpuppy 03-06-2006 08:11 AM

Nice video. Hard to tell if the boom as the jet passes is a sonic boom, or just audio distortion from the sound of the jet. Either way he's really hauling ass. There's another F14 carrier fly-by video out there where you can actually see the mach cone, probably due to moisture condensing.

TheMentat 03-06-2006 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by svandamme
if anything it must ave been very,very close...
i did not hear sound untill the plane was right next to the boat.
that alone would indicate supersonic... no?

He'd have to be at least 45 degrees ahead of the viewer (from perpendicular) when the sound hit to indicate supersonic...

svandamme 03-06-2006 08:24 AM

it's not the boom that is tell tale
it's the lack of sound coming from the plane as it approaches...

if it's sub sonic, you'de hear something
if it's supersonic, you would not

there is sound allright, but that's carrier deck operations , not the sound of the jet that is inbound...that would be a lot louder , would be closer to the sound as it is moving away from the camera...just a tad less

svandamme 03-06-2006 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheMentat
He'd have to be at least 45 degrees ahead of the viewer (from perpendicular) when the sound hit to indicate supersonic...
if you look closely ... then the plane is past the camera position when the sound hits...

but the distance is short, the camera has to swing by fast , so it's very hard to tell, it's just a split second difference

to me the lack of sound when it's inbound says more then the time the sound hits... because it's to close to tell

if you freeze frame it, the sound hits, when the af of that second ship is about to enter the picture...

the plane is just past the camera's position when that happens...

island911 03-06-2006 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts
Neat video, but it doesn't look like it's going 761 miles per hour...

-Wayne

maybe it was a cold day. ;)


Looks like they were right at transonic, to me. (btw, shockwaves dont start at 45° . . . that would be a MUCH higher mach #)

bell 03-06-2006 09:30 AM

i think the disruption in the surface of the water is the coolest :)
looks like he's dropping flares as he passes too.

the website that hosts that video has a TON of cool vids......from old men fighting to f-14's to porsches :)

svandamme 03-06-2006 09:49 AM

flares? don't see em , and it seems unlikely he would ... cause them flares are big and probably not something they would like to see come down on those 2 ships and crew on those ships...

dhoward 03-06-2006 11:37 AM

Looked like two flares to me....

svandamme 03-06-2006 11:52 AM

man those things are tiny

dhoward 03-06-2006 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by svandamme
man those things are tiny
But really hot....
Reminds me of a stripper I met once...

450knotOffice 03-06-2006 12:36 PM

Awesome video!

Wayne, there is no doubt about that plane flying at a speed that, at the very least, is transonic, but more likely is slightly supersonic. All of the signatures are there: greatly disturbed water at the surface with a very well defined, slightly angled back line of demarcation at the front caused by the shock wave, total lack of sound from the approaching plane until it was basically abeam the two ships, very, very sharp sound of the shock wave passing (I've heard these before and this is exactly what they sound like). And yes, it does look look like he's moving at about 760 mph to me. Did you see how fast he covered the length of carrier from which the video was filmed, which is at least 1000 feet long? At a speed of 760 mph, his airplane would be covering about 1116 feet per second. He traveled the length of that ship in no more than a second from what I saw.

And, no, I did not sleep at the Holiday Inn last night.:rolleyes: Flying jets (albeit, not supersonic fighters) is what I do for a living, and have for the last 15 years.

Jared at Pelican Parts 03-06-2006 12:50 PM

What he said, he's right.

Fidalgo911S 03-06-2006 10:40 PM

Scott is right - he's supersonic. I've seen it dozens of times spending about three years plus on aircraft carriers. The video is from an airpower demonstration usually taken at the end of cruise. The pilot will only hit "the number" right as he gets to the ship to dramaticize the event. Most pilots will only push it up to mach 1.1-1.3 for a short period of time. It takes a lot of fuel in the thick air at sea level, and recovery may be an hour away. F-18's actually have to take a slight dive when doing a supersonic flyby.

The video doesn't do it justice. It's an amazine thing to see. By the way the Navy only has one or two F-14 squadrons left.

Fidalgo911S 03-06-2006 10:41 PM

Scott is right - he's supersonic. I've seen it dozens of times spending about three years plus on aircraft carriers. The video is from an airpower demonstration usually taken at the end of cruise. The pilot will only hit "the number" right as he gets to the ship to dramatize the event. Most pilots will only push it up to mach 1.1-1.3 for a short period of time. It takes a lot of fuel in the thick air at sea level, and recovery may be an hour away. F-18's actually have to take a slight dive when doing a supersonic flyby.

The video doesn't do it justice. It's an amazing thing to see. By the way the Navy only has one or two F-14 squadrons left.

svandamme 03-06-2006 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fidalgo911S


The video doesn't do it justice. It's an amazing thing to see. By the way the Navy only has one or two F-14 squadrons left.

didn't they do the last f14 recovery just recently?

Fidalgo911S 03-07-2006 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by svandamme
didn't they do the last f14 recovery just recently?
I'm not sure. It's very likely they have.

svandamme 03-07-2006 10:28 AM

keg of beer for the cag?


or... requesting permission for a flyby
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negative ghostrider, the pattern is full

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