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pmajka 01-11-2007 03:52 PM

Looking for milk
 
Hey....I am looking for brands of Milk that feed their cows naturally...not doping them up with Hormones and Anti-Biotics.

did you know that in 1923, Dairy cows only produced 1 Gal of milk...in 1998, they were up to 6 Gal a day.

and now more than ever are prone to Mastitis.

red-beard 01-11-2007 04:10 PM

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stomachmonkey 01-11-2007 04:17 PM

Hmmm, what's worse, cows with inflammed boobs or 6 times the number of belching/farting bovine contributing to global warming?

Tough one.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather have my food as natural as possible but there is no such thing as a free lunch. It's gonna cost you one way or the other.

BTW, There are 1.4 billion cows worldwide, each producing 500 litres of methane a day and accounting for 14% of all emissions of the gas.

id10t 01-11-2007 04:55 PM

Saw some free range organic whole milk at The Fresh Market (new upscale grocery here in town), but it was very expensive. See if you have a whole foods store near you.

holtjv 01-11-2007 05:41 PM

give up cow milk and buy soy milk--a damn sight better for you. buy the no sugar kind, which is richest and tastes the best, or the chocolat, which is excellent.

But I have not drank a glass of milk for probably 30 years--it truly disgusts me. For cereal, tea, i use soy milk. I really don't care if it's better for you or not, it doesn't gross me out.

john walker's workshop 01-11-2007 05:54 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by stomachmonkey
[B]Hmmm, what's worse, cows with inflammed boobs or 6 times the number of belching/farting bovine contributing to global warming?

ever notice all the large boobs on the high school girls? it wasn't like that when i was in school. something in the milk maybe?

BlueSkyJaunte 01-11-2007 06:11 PM

^^ JW's theory sure has my vote. If the girls in my HS had looked like the girls do today, I'd have been a lot more "active".

stomachmonkey 01-11-2007 06:11 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by john walker's workshop
[B]
Quote:

Originally posted by stomachmonkey
Hmmm, what's worse, cows with inflammed boobs or 6 times the number of belching/farting bovine contributing to global warming?

ever notice all the large boobs on the high school girls? it wasn't like that when i was in school. something in the milk maybe?

Are you saying that's a bad thing? I'm actually a bit conflicted on that point.

red-beard 01-11-2007 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by holtjv
give up cow milk and buy soy milk--a damn sight better for you. buy the no sugar kind, which is richest and tastes the best, or the chocolat, which is excellent.

But I have not drank a glass of milk for probably 30 years--it truly disgusts me. For cereal, tea, i use soy milk. I really don't care if it's better for you or not, it doesn't gross me out.

Women should be careful of Soy products since they can mimic estrogen.

holtjv 01-11-2007 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by red-beard
Women should be careful of Soy products since they can mimic estrogen.
I think I may have heard that. Do they have to consume 1000 gallons per day to affect their hormones or some reasonble amount?

I have seen studies funded by the american dairy board which state the evils of soy; and, I've also seen studies from the soy lobby which state the evils of cow's milk.

hard to figure out the truth, there, so I just end up doing what I like. J

red-beard 01-11-2007 06:35 PM

My wife was drinking 8-12 ounces per day and it expanded her uterine fibroid greatly. It shunk from grapefruit size to golf ball size less than 6 months after discontinuing soy milk.

holtjv 01-11-2007 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by red-beard
My wife was drinking 8-12 ounces per day and it expanded her uterine fibroid greatly. It shunk from grapefruit size to golf ball size less than 6 months after discontinuing soy milk.
Thanks for this, sincerely. My wife doesn't drink more than .5-2 oz per day in her coffee but my 7 year old drinks about 8oz of the chocolate milk daily. While I suspect you didn't stay the night at a Holiday Inn Express last night, do you think she is in any danger? I'll do some research on it, as well but I do appreciate the anecdotal heads-up.

Jack

Whtnkls911 01-11-2007 07:22 PM

Smith Brothers, Kent, WA No hormones

www.smithbrothersfarms.com

1-800-new-milk

red-beard 01-11-2007 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by holtjv
Thanks for this, sincerely. My wife doesn't drink more than .5-2 oz per day in her coffee but my 7 year old drinks about 8oz of the chocolate milk daily. While I suspect you didn't stay the night at a Holiday Inn Express last night, do you think she is in any danger? I'll do some research on it, as well but I do appreciate the anecdotal heads-up.

Jack

Truely, I have no idea. It was detrimental to my wife, but people are different. Many of the things that are supposed to be really bad or really good for you turn out to be neither, or are exaggerated.

Sonic dB 01-11-2007 09:10 PM

Most groceries are carrying Organic Milk now... and it truly tastes better, imo.

Flatbutt1 01-11-2007 09:24 PM

adults don't really need the nutrition found in cow's milk. you can get your calcium in other ways just as well.

WolfeMacleod 01-12-2007 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flatbutt1
adults don't really need the nutrition found in cow's milk. you can get your calcium in other ways just as well.
Yes, especially if you are female. :D

Or male...in some cases..

on2wheels52 01-12-2007 04:33 AM

I remember some city cousins visiting us on the farm (and this was almost 50 years ago) saying "we want store milk, we don't like cow milk".
Jim

jyl 01-12-2007 04:53 AM

To echo Sonic, you can get organic milk in most stores now. I am pretty sure hormones are not used in those cows. Not sure about antibiotics.

john70t 01-12-2007 06:03 AM

Read "The omnivores dilemma", it will make you think about food in general a lot diffferently.


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