Is The Monkey Crying Wolf?
 

The Monkey has come out lately and said that Iran is supplying sophisiticated weapons to the Sh!it Insurgents. Is this a prelude to war with Iran?

OR... has the Monkey cried Wolf about WMDs one too many times so that he has no credibility anymore.

I suspect that this time the Monkey has it right about Iran, and part of the new get tough in Iraq plan is calling out the names of the Bad guys. I also suspect that they have known for quiet awhile that Iran has been supplying weapons to Iraqis, but because they were trying to play nice nice with the Iraqi government they kept their mouths shut.

Bush in his 9th inning has put his best outa the box Militiary thinkers in charge of the place to see if they can right the situation.

The Monkey in my estimation deserves one last chanch to pull the rabbit outa the hat. He has had his wake up call now lets see if he can run with it.

Just remember NOBODY has a BETTER PLAN..they all SU{K at the end of the day...Its the ME axiom Damed if U do, Damed if U don't. REMEMBER THAT PEOPLE...keep that in mind when U go to spout off about how lousy the Monkey has done in Iraq.

Yeah....OK

I thought "do-overs" ended upon entering adulthood.

Of course Bush II is lying about Iran, that there is any question is most curious.

1. Ex-aide says Rice misled U.S. Congress on Iran
2. The administration’s claims about Iran have been met with intense skepticism, from Democrats in Congress and from experts like David Kay, who led the search for illicit weapons in Iraq.
3. America’s top general appeared to contradict claims made by the White House and other US military commanders yesterday that Iran was arming Shia militants in Iraq.

Wouldn't it be sump'n if he was right? Imagine this, Iran had it figuered for sometime now. Bleed out some rummers and spin to the right ear about hwo Iraq has WMDs and it validates the war start. Into it, no WMDs are found and the US looses credibility and devides the country. Iran pursues the nuke effort and even if there is evidence only a fool or a lionheart would go after them. They know the US is all about perception and this feels like the crap a few years ago.

The bottom line, we whoop up on Iran either it unifies all the Muslims or it breaks their backs for good. Take a bet which will happen...

Not a betting man, Mike, especially on this one. The odds are far to high in my estimation.

I hope it works, but I do not see how.

I have wondered about the concept of going to the sidelines, let the teams beat themselves into bloody pulps and then do the necessary mopping up. Referees should not be in the middle of the scrimmage line.

Attacking Iran will unify not only that country, but will unify militant, fundamentalist muslims worldwide. At over 1.5 billion people, one quarter of the global population, increasing muslim anger towards America is not good for America, it's only good for the US government.

And if they do have nukes soon, then what? Let them blow-up Isreal? Maybe throw one at US? Oh heck, they are a good nation, who are we to say they or anyone else shouldn't have nukes right?

Re: Is The Monkey Crying Wolf?
 

I think that even a Monkey would have, 5 years ago, figured out that this country needed to up it's intel gathering.

hmmm, it seems that some one, recently, was getting a bunch of ***** for being over reaching with intel gathering . . .. hmmmmm, who was that?

Oh right, BUSH!


. . .but he is probably all wrong about Iran, cuz his Intel was wrong about Saddam.:rolleyes:

Mike:

Technology is a two headed coin and as far as nuclear technology, the genie is out of the bottle and will never be forced back in. Read some of H.G. Wells predictive fiction on the fate of humanity (predicted the A-bomb about 1914). I see it as only getting worse and never better.

Number one, Iran is not getting nukes any time soon, if the US government (I'm not having any of this "we" merde) is prevented from attacking them. If the US government attacks Iran, they will have a nuke much faster.

They won't attack Israel under any circumstances (unless attacked first), they know what the results will be.

They won't attack America for the same reason.

Additionally, the proposed targets in Iran do not have, for the most part, anything whatsoever to do with their nuclear power program. The targets are the Iranian infrastructure; i.e. their water treatment plants, their electric power generations system, their phone systems, their roads, their public transportation, and other systems. The attack is planned to reduce Iran to at least the 1950's, or worse.

Last, the attack is planned as an economic aid to one mideast country, Israel.

You had it right the first time. He's a monkey.

Now, stop being so anthropomorphic! (about the monkey)

I mean, would you rather have a question that no one can answer, or the answer to the question that no one asked?

This is one of the more pointless threads on this board. It rates right up there with the girl who $hat in the whirlpool.

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Quiet the contrary...its a conundrum...

Bush has lost credibilty and no one belives him when he is telling the truth because he cried wolf once before...

Does that make it simple enough for you Dotty...

Money the US stopped being Refs the minute we "broke it" and took over. We are in the middle of it, and if we leave it will look like Rwanda, Somilia, Afgan or Bosnia...

Far too simple.

Monkey stuff, really.

Missed the mud pool thread...oh well.

Economic sanctions? Ya, didn't we do that to Japan in the 30's? Worked well with one of our territories.

I say, if we are gonna be an empire lets just go for it. Assimilate Canada for the metal, water and oil, Mexico for the labor and Cuba for the beaches. ***** the rest of the world. Let'm fig'r it out.

Don't U get it, we allready own those places...well not Cuba, Fidel kicked the US out so that he could run the place and that has made the US mad...50 years worth so far.

Our Empire is one of BUSINESS... CAPITALISM...BABY....

Better than the feedback loop in your head

Well, the team just got larger on our side. Am in London now and the Brits just announced that they have started a new operation in Basra and to boot have totally blockaded the border between Iraq and Iran. This should have been done a long time ago and would have saved numerous lives, but hindsight is always 20/20.

They have already found several shipments of the arms and bombs or bomb making materials that were announced earlier in the week coming across the border.

I'm sure they did. Did the British government ever explain why their guys were running around Iraq, dressed as civilians, in a car full of unmarked explosives?

Naw, I thought not.

Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln was the GREATEST PRESIDENT the USA has ever had!

Tabsy's out of gas again.

Better than the Block of Cement in your head

Lincoln was skillfull as a career lawman/politician, and I might put him as one of the greatest I know of in the U.S., but being the greatest president, doubtfull. He definately left a mark - and a very black one, on our freedoms, but it maintained him his position of power until he was killed.

He was not the only one who tried to maintain the Union, little known fact is John Brown's rebellion that was squashed in West Virginia when he tried to set up his own slave free country.

And the reason we are there is.......(drum roll)....
1. Thirty+ years of corporate/government stone-walling of any development of renewable or alternative resources,
2. Planning commisions run by developers, and
3. Public consumerism whipped up to a frantic state by media, and
4. A little micromanage socialism growing inside the republican party.

Reap what we sow.

Austrian weapons........perhaps the monkey is climbing the wrong tree. Again.
How did that saying go........fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice .............

Been spanking the monkey again - and hard. That's my guess.

I NEVER believed the Iraq, Al Qaedea story
As far as WMDs went, it was a logical conclusion that Sadam had some left over, tucked away for a Rainy Day.

I also said very clearly that those arguements were SELLING POINTS to get the USA to go to war. That the real reason was Geopolitical...at this point I don't know if they know what the word means.

My guess is that the Monkey is telling the Truth this time. That the Iranians are supplying munitions to the Shi!ts. The question, is that supply being sanctioned at the highest levels of the Iranian power structure.

To be blunt GW and his crew acted like their ***** didn't stink, that they knew better than anybody else. Well their little escapade went into the *****er and now they have to eat their own *****.

Now that U mention it Dotty.. When I was younger I used to spank the monkey 5 or 6 times a day for decades...used to put alot of stains on the ceiling... But now as I am getting older I just don't have the same interest as I once had..now I am down to just 2 times a day.

I think Bush has it correct. If you listen to outgoing Iranian UN ambassador, Dr. M. Javad Zarif, he claims security in Iraq is within the best interest of Iran. So why not supply weapons to at least the south of Iraq which is where Shias have influence? Iran feels it's time to gain position in the region whilst civil war goes on as there have been major wars in the area for a good part of late last century and now, all of which affected Iran.

The issue, however, is it's not our civil war. Nonetheless, if we have to be involved, Iran is willing to talk to the U.S., again according to Zarif.

The problem with monkies, though, is they can't talk. Gorillas, at best, might understand sign language. :rolleyes:

Well I always thought you were a bit of a wanker.

And I mean that in a nice way. I really do.

DeeDee your right it isn't our CW, but it is in our interest to maintain stability in the Region. Bushs adventure put us all at risk, needlessly as it turns out.

However we can not walk away without putting ourselves at peril. Thats where the Democrats get off track. The plans they lay out would allow the Iraqis free reign in slaughtering each other which would set the stage for a larger war in the Region as other Nation states react to maintain their own stability.

We should drop porn on Iran, then they could all spank the monkey.

Dunno about all this stuff but while that dumb effing monkey was out goofing off a bunch of damn chinchillas overran his cage and ***** all over the place!

Finally someone is making sense out of Iraq. :D

Re: Re: Is The Monkey Crying Wolf?
 

Aside from nearly always presenting your views as sarcasm instead of straightforward comments (sarcasm does not make your comments more powerful or compelling), I figured out that Iv'e also been reacting to the impossibility of you not understanding things any better than you pretend. I know you get it, and you're just pretending.

Yes, intel gathering is "where it's at" in terms of fighting terrorism. All the monkeys I know have found this conclusion within easy reach.

Dubya did't catsh ***** for gathering intelligence. He's caught ***** for breaking the law and pretending there are no limits to his authority to break them.

He might be right about Iran. But he's been so consistently duped over the years that he's placed himself in an incredible position. America no longer trusts him. He will need to plead his case, and he seems to have figured that out now.

I know you know these things. Why pretend you don't?

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"HE" "HE" "HEHEHEHEHHEHE HAHAHAHAHA . . .oh wait, where was I?

Oh yeah, why do YOU dump ALL of this on Bush? Was HE responsible for the severly lacking intel on 9/11/01? Well, we know Sandy Burgler has destroyed evidence there. But back to Who YOU balme FOR FREAKING EVERYTHING! Do you think that Bush (and all the rest of everyone caught with their intel-pants down) hasn't been significantly 'upping' the intel apparatus?

He took a couple of swings (or swigs) at the monkey and missed apparently.

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There wasn't any "lack" of intelligence about the events that occured on that date, nor for the six months prior to that date. The Bush'ists didn't want all of the intelligence because it didn't coincide with their plans to invade Iraq. According to court records, FBI field agents attempted to sound the warning about the impending attacks and were rebuffed to the point of having their jobs threatened.

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Well, we know Sandy Burgler has destroyed evidence there.

Since that allegation has been disproved in a court of law, why do you continue to make it? Do you really think assertions become true if you make them over and over again?

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But back to Who YOU balme FOR FREAKING EVERYTHING! Do you think that Bush (and all the rest of everyone caught with their intel-pants down) hasn't been significantly 'upping' the intel apparatus?

There was no shortage of intelligence about the 9/11 attacks, and no shortage of valid intellegence about Iraq prior to March 2003. The Bush'ist Office of Special Plans altered or omitted intelligence data in order to have what was put together showed something other than the truth, and forwarded that to the Congress. That's been documented by a wide variety of sources, including the Inspector General of the Department of Defense.

Really, you should learn these facts before you continue to make the same allegations you've been making for the last 5+ years.

We should go to war with Iran over little tiny weapons.

Sure the intel was bad before, but it's not like they lied. This time it's bound to be right.

Where do I sign up ? And when do I get my Brazillian ? After all, it's not like these guys just want to go to war for personal reasons. They have the best interests of our great nation at ransom.

To quote our illustrious President, "fool you once, shame on me. Er, the point is to not get fooled.''

Let me know when you find the terror. I'll hold it while you attack it.

You, sir, are a Gentile and a Scallop, I'm right proud to know ye.