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jriera 05-23-2007 06:12 AM

German engineering
 
Look what Germans can do!!!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1179925901.jpg

500 M Euros, 918 meters long, 6 years construction!!

No, is not a photoshop

Joeaksa 05-23-2007 06:23 AM

And bet that its made to last 2-300 years at that.

svandamme 05-23-2007 06:42 AM

mhh, doesn't look really like german overengineering, it's to simple

no mechanical parts, nothing moving ,
in Belgium we just make a giant bathtub on rails , and lift the boats

http://home.scarlet.be/~rkial452/Strepy/Ronincl17f0.jpg

although we have made aquaducts as well in 2002
http://home.scarlet.be/~rkial452/Str...t-mvdb13h2.jpg

svandamme 05-23-2007 06:57 AM

the modern boat lift in Belgium

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ies_JPG003.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Str%C3%A9py-Thieu_boat_lift

75 meters
up to 1350 tonnes

Jim727 05-23-2007 08:21 AM

Ah - the Schiffsheberwerk. There's one north of Berlin in Niederfinow as well. Fascinating devices.

So - the "LubeMaster question of the day" is: Why lift the water??

svandamme 05-23-2007 08:35 AM

cause you want to raise the boats to a canal that links up with a higher river

Jim727 05-23-2007 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by svandamme
cause you want to raise the boats to a canal that links up with a higher river
Nope - that's why you raise the boats, not why you raise the water.

svandamme 05-23-2007 08:51 AM

aah, you're talking about the aqua duct
though you talked about the lift

same reason though

to link up 2 rivers or water basins , via canal with a valley in between

Jim727 05-23-2007 09:05 AM

The lift uses mechanical lifting. Why lift the water instead of just the boats?

Superman 05-23-2007 09:14 AM

I'm a big fan of German engineering, but I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Falkirk Wheel. One of the most impressive and elegant/simple examples of modern engineering today.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1179936822.jpg

island911 05-23-2007 09:21 AM

Falkirk Wheel. Brillant! Thanks Supe.

svandamme 05-23-2007 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim727
The lift uses mechanical lifting. Why lift the water instead of just the boats?
boats can just get into position on their own power on water

to lift them without the water, would require shoring, draining, botom protection , the works

they are built to float, not sit, especially not when fully loaded

it would take ages to make sure they are fully supported
when all they have to do , is lift the water along with the boat

Aerkuld 05-23-2007 10:26 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Romans build aquaducts several (thousand) years before this?

Also check out some of the British Canal systems. There was some incredible engineering going on there. Look up the Anderton Boat lift...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderton_Boat_Lift
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1179940509.jpg

...built in 1875. Or try the Pontcysyllte Aqueduct...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontcysyllte_Aqueduct
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1179940726.jpg

... a Thomas Telford creation opened in 1805. Not impressed yet, try the Standedge Tunnel opened in 1811...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standedge_Tunnels
..."the longest, deepest and highest canal tunnel in Britain. It is 5,500 yards (5029 m) long, 638 feet (194 m) underground at the deepest point and 645 feet (197 m) above sea level"

Just think of the technology that was available at that time and what these guys built. These are truely engineering masterpieces, in my opinion. If you're not familair with the British canals here is a little history lesson...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_British_canal_system

svandamme 05-23-2007 10:32 AM

true, but the Romans only funneld water through em , not even sure they had any big enough for even a row boat

Aerkuld 05-23-2007 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by svandamme
true, but the Romans only funneld water through em , not even sure they had any big enough for even a row boat
But still, this is just an adaptation of an idea that was pioneered over two thousand years ago. Just puts it into perspective.

Super_Dave_D 05-23-2007 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aerkuld
But still, this is just an adaptation of an idea that was pioneered over two thousand years ago. Just puts it into perspective.
And parts of the Roman ones still stand today

red-beard 05-23-2007 06:18 PM

Completed in 1825 - "Clinton's Ditch" - The Erie Canal

http://www.eriecanal.org/images/Sche...xford-1911.jpg

red-beard 05-23-2007 06:24 PM

1835 Lithograph of the Lower Mohawk River Aqueduct

http://www.eriecanal.org/images/Sche...hofer-1835.jpg

Aerkuld 05-23-2007 06:35 PM

Clinton's Ditch??
Didn't Al Gore invent the aquaduct?

Rot 911 05-23-2007 06:42 PM

Look what Americans can do!

http://www.gipsymoth.org/images/Coun...l_Gatun_Lo.jpg


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