Chicago Priest Calls for Murder of Gun Shop Owner
 

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Do something like this in front of an abortion clinic, and it's national news. Do it in front of a gun shop, and it gets ignored.

nice....

NOT.

WTF, man?

Chris, Chris Chris....... Would you agree that your starting point for the remark above is a paraphrase and interpretation of someone's remarks......by an organization that has a political agenda? Did you notice that the priest's remarks are not provided in this story? A word. A phrase. And an interpretation.......

And I guess you just take it from there and build on that?

the religion of peace my arse. We should kick out all Catholics...

Supe, an MP3 of the priest's remarks are available in the link in my first post. Nice try casting doubt without all the info, though.

I've been a Catholic now for more than 45 years. More often than not, priests' remarks do not include calls for murder.

From Chicago, no less

So what you are saying is that because of your personal experience with different priests in a different part of the country, it is impossible that another priest you have never met could have acted this way?

Good idea. Catholics are nothing but a crazy cult anyway. Bwwwaaa

It's not national news unless FOX covers it.

It's possible. If this priest's remarks did in fact seem as though they were condoning murder, there are at least two possibilities. His remarks deliberately condoned murder or his remarks were unfortunately unclear enough to leave the impression he were condoning murder when in fact his intended meaning was otherwise. Either way, the Church will find the remarks, and/or their interpretation, regrettable.

Or perhaps the Catholic Church condones murder. Ever think of that? Maybe the Church approves of murder. Is that your conclusion, Chris?

Supe, I've pointed you towards a primary source that you refuse to use. You seem to prefer to guess about what is or is not in the recording and then cast doubt based on your assumptions. Then, you want to deflect the argument by creating the straw man that this some sort of anti-Catholic post. Finally, you completely ignore the point that this was ignored by the media. Three noble attempts at derailing this thread.

yeah, but if it had been a local Muslim mullah that called for the murder of the gun shop owner, the news (especially Fox) would have been all over it.

Hey, you opened the door...

What if the Muslim was a conservative republican? Just thinking about that makes my head explode...:D

Catholics have proven, throughout recorded history, to be better shots than Muslims.

+1 :D (I was an altar boy :D )

Supercatholic,

Three hail maries, repentance, and all will be forgiven...

Here is my conclusion,

Actually reporting something like this on broadcast TV news defeats the purpose of entertainment. Entertainment is meant to make you feel better, to support the fantasy bubble of laziness which makes your life easier---paying the government to pass laws and solve problems---the natural easy way to avoid any responsibility. The more repressed guilt you feel about your lacking to take responsibility, the more money you throw at something with the hope that someone else will simply fix it. Also crucial to this bubble is the fantasy that somehow life can be made fair and equal for everyone, so any use of objective thinking in combination with statistics to single out a group of individuals by credit score, race, gender, religion, nationality, job status, etc (and actually target the source of a problem) has to be strictly avoided and instead you must equally suppress all individuals and thus not actually solve anything (ie gun laws).

Given that the market for broadcast TV news is mostly lefties, it would be anti-capitalistic to do anything that might burst the fantasy bubble, make them angry, cause them to stop watching, and thus through loss of viewers, loose the advertising revenue which keeps the machine running.

So seriously, this has nothing to do with the Church. No need to go on the defensive about the Catholic religion over a few bad apples, which statistically is going to happen given human nature. The objective thing to do is to accept this fact and instead of being defensive and trying to make excuses for someone, say it how it is.

Welcome to OT Tim, don't say I didn't warn you...

yeah, just like reality tv.

oh wait...

If the priest broke the law, then he should be punished accordingly. I personally don't have any problem understanding the concept that you can't judge a group by an individual -- any more then you can judge individuals by the group. To do otherwise would be to stereotype. It seems pretty obvious to me that others here have difficulty with that distinction.

The priest should be held responsible for his words and actions. If he broke any laws, then the judicial process should determine the punishment. If he were merely excercising his right of free speech, then deal with it and lets move on.