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ckissick 08-07-2007 09:10 PM

Bonds does it!
 
756! Yeah, baby! I know I won't make any friends with this posting, but us lifelong Giants fans can't help but like our homerun king. My wife does business with his mother, and she's what is best decribed as a lovely woman. Bobby was my hero as a kid. OK, I got my flame suit on now.

Rearden 08-07-2007 09:17 PM

756*

ikarcuaso 08-07-2007 09:22 PM

* achieved by shooting copious amounts of 'roids into the a$$

Hugh R 08-07-2007 09:30 PM

Don't care, but as someone here pointed out, the steroids don't help the eye-hand coordination to connect the ball and the bat, or the aim, only the power behind the hit to drive it out of the park. Again, I don't really care about pro-ball teams. Didn't the Giants used to be in New York or something? How can you get excited or loyal to a home town team that leaves, like the: Giants, Dodgers, Lakers, Raiders, Colts, Jazz, Saints, Rams,.... I guess I could go on, but I really don't follow pro sports.

Porsche-O-Phile 08-07-2007 09:30 PM

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trekkor 08-07-2007 09:53 PM

I'm happy for Bonds.
Baseball is entertainment.

I don't condone illegal drug use.
I read that Bonds has actually never tested positive. Is that true?


I would have been happier if the Giants could have closed the deal on that world series a few years back instead.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/08/07/SPGU4RERLB3.DTL


KT

Sonic dB 08-07-2007 09:55 PM

:)LOL at that movie poster!

the 08-07-2007 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh R (Post 3415965)
Don't care, but as someone here pointed out, the steroids don't help the eye-hand coordination to connect the ball and the bat, or the aim, only the power behind the hit to drive it out of the park.

I hear people say that every now and then, but given that to hit a homerun, you need both (connect to the ball, AND power to drive it out of the park), what is the point?

the 08-07-2007 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3415999)
I read that Bonds has actually never tested positive. Is that true?
KT

He didn't test negative, either. They didn't test at all during the years he was roiding.

Jeff Alton 08-07-2007 10:39 PM

I think since the scandal broke his hat size is almost where it was before he got on "the program". Only one more size to go and back to normal.......

The thing that pi$$es me off about this loser is that he had enought talent to do it clean. Same as Sosa same as Mcguire. I think they all need a self esteem help group......

But I degress, I have a hard time with the majority of baseball players being called athletes. I will never dispute their rather un human hand eye coordination, but..... :) Anyways, I guess hand eye coordination could make one an athlete..... but to me it just seems like not a lot of physical effort is being put out during a game of baseball. (yes the pitcher works at it) I played through grade 11 as a kid.................


Cheers

Moses 08-07-2007 10:46 PM

Steroids don't do anything... except turn lazy routine fly outs into home runs.

Bonds, McGwire, Sosa. All cheaters.

The single season record still rightfully belongs to Maris, as the all-time mark belongs to Aaron.

HardDrive 08-07-2007 10:57 PM

Delete this thread.

The event that inspired it is not worthy of note.

the 08-07-2007 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moses (Post 3416062)
Steroids don't do anything... except turn lazy routine fly outs into home runs.

Bonds, McGwire, Sosa. All cheaters.

The single season record still rightfully belongs to Maris, as the all-time mark belongs to Aaron.

Yup on all three.

Go A-Rod!

At least he can bring legitimacy back to the career HR record. The tainted single season records likely will never be broken.

Bond, McGuire, Sosa. Check the single season HR records:

1. Barry Bonds* (36) 73 2001 L
2. Mark McGwire (34) 70 1998 R
3. Sammy Sosa (29) 66 1998 R
4. Mark McGwire (35) 65 1999 R
5. Sammy Sosa (32) 64 2001 R
6. Sammy Sosa (30) 63 1999 R
7. Roger Maris* (26) 61 1961 L
8. Babe Ruth+* (32) 60 1927 L
9. Babe Ruth+* (26) 59 1921 L
10. Jimmie Foxx+ (24) 58 1932 R
Hank Greenberg+ (27) 58 1938 R
Ryan Howard* (26) 58 2006 L
Mark McGwire (33) 58 1997 R
14. Luis Gonzalez* (33) 57 2001 L
Alex Rodriguez (26) 57 2002 R
16. Ken Griffey* (27) 56 1997 L
Ken Griffey* (28) 56 1998 L
Hack Wilson+ (30) 56 1930 R
19. Ralph Kiner+ (26) 54 1949 R
Mickey Mantle+# (29) 54 1961 B


Hmm, wonder what was in the water during the '98 through '01 seasons???

Mid to high 60s for HR's just don't happen, and 70 is historically absurd. Except for during that 4 year period, when 3 suddenly massively huge guys consistently did it. Then it suddenly stopped, just as quickly as it started.

MattAlpha 08-07-2007 11:40 PM

Growing up in Pittsburgh I was a fan of Bonds before he took the free agent ticket to San Fran for more money and to be on the team of his god father. That was the right decision for him so I can't fault him, but there are very few people in Pittsburgh that care for him now. He weighed 180lbs in his rookie year in Pittsburgh and he weighs 230lbs now. I'm pretty sure that extra 50 pounds isn't a beer gut. You do have to give him credit for being able to stay in the major league for that long. Most records can be reached or surpassed if you're in the league for twenty plus years.
-Matt

ZOO 08-08-2007 04:21 AM

Aaron has the record for all time total bases. Even if Bonds had 180 more home runs, he wouldn't break that. Actually, according to Sports Illustrated, if you gave 180 more home runs to any other baseball great, they still wouldn't break Aaron's total bases record.

I love the second post -- 756* -- ftw.

azasadny 08-08-2007 04:30 AM

Who cares?

Rich76_911s 08-08-2007 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh R (Post 3415965)
Don't care, but as someone here pointed out, the steroids don't help the eye-hand coordination to connect the ball and the bat, or the aim, only the power behind the hit to drive it out of the park. Again, I don't really care about pro-ball teams. Didn't the Giants used to be in New York or something? How can you get excited or loyal to a home town team that leaves, like the: Giants, Dodgers, Lakers, Raiders, Colts, Jazz, Saints, Rams,.... I guess I could go on, but I really don't follow pro sports.

I disagree that roids don't help in the hand eye coordination. The roids increase your bat speed so in effect you can wait that split second longer, which in all likelihood increases your ability to make contact.

Shorter parks, allowing juiced players, more games a season. Really baseball is at fault. It was a time when the sport was struggling after strikes, and they needed to get people excited about the sport. They are the ones that made the mess. If I were Bonds and I saw marginal players like Mcguire breaking records, on steriods, I guess I would have to consider it to.

Originally Posted by trekkor
I read that Bonds has actually never tested positive. Is that true?
KT
Bonds never tested posotive, he wasn't tested either. He did admit to getting stuck with something that he didn't know what it was. I doubt anyone here can honestly believe these guys weren't on the juice.

Tobra 08-08-2007 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moses (Post 3416062)
Steroids don't do anything... except turn lazy routine fly outs into home runs.

Bonds, McGwire, Sosa. All cheaters.

The single season record still rightfully belongs to Maris, as the all-time mark belongs to Aaron.

If you look at the totals of anyone, they hit less HR's as they age. He really ought to be givng credit to his chemist, but that would be admitting guilt, and totally out of character.

There is absolutely no way he gets either single season or career marks without the steroids.

onewhippedpuppy 08-08-2007 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moses (Post 3416062)
Steroids don't do anything... except turn lazy routine fly outs into home runs.

Bonds, McGwire, Sosa. All cheaters.

The single season record still rightfully belongs to Maris, as the all-time mark belongs to Aaron.

So true. The real pity is that Bonds has always been a good ballplayer. Good hitter, golden glove fielder. Probably would have been a hall of famer. But it wasn't good enough, so he chose to cheat. Ultimately baseball is to blame for their weak drug policies. But at the end of the day, I'm sure they love this. It has baseball in the news, and any advertising is good advertising.

trekkor 08-08-2007 09:43 AM

I don't doubt that he was on 'em.

I just don't think they can prove it.


KT

pwd72s 08-08-2007 10:03 AM

Baseball is a game for statisticians...that said, I do like it. Always have, since listening to games on my bedroom 5 tube radio back in the 50's. Heros with names like Yogi Berra, Willie Mays, Stan Musial, Hank Sauer, and others...

May the game continue...

fingpilot 08-08-2007 10:06 AM

He is the 'Home Roids King!'

KFC911 08-08-2007 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the (Post 3416081)
...Hmm, wonder what was in the water during the '98 through '01 seasons???

Mid to high 60s for HR's just don't happen, and 70 is historically absurd. Except for during that 4 year period, when 3 suddenly massively huge guys consistently did it. Then it suddenly stopped, just as quickly as it started.

I agree wholeheartedly with you pwd72s...it is/was a game of statistics for me when I was in my youth. I distinctly remember listening to Hank chase the record back in '74, on crappy long distance radio broadcasts. Hence, THE's post simply tells it all from a statistical perspective imo... I could care less about Bonds, or baseball anymore.

ps: Bonds was a HOF'er from the git-go (his father Bobby, was one of my dad's favorites way back when, so I've always noticed Barry), but he is what he is :(

pwd72s 08-08-2007 10:48 AM

No congrats call from President Bush.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070808/sp_nm/baseball_bonds756_bush_dc_3;_ylt=Ap2F.6rvH43N.yqK. wAD2h4E1vAI

gassy 08-08-2007 10:56 AM

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KFC911 08-08-2007 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 3416756)
No congrats call from President Bush.

He's trying to get back the votes of "real baseball fans" who also gave up on him :)

sammyg2 08-08-2007 11:16 AM

in the post game interview he forgot to thank his pharmacist.

JonT 08-08-2007 08:15 PM

anyone catch the post game interview when he said 'this record is not tainted' his eyes looked away involuntarily just for a moment before he spoke. Isnt this a classic lying give away?

trekkor 08-08-2007 08:57 PM

The President did call to congratulate today.


KT

trekkor 08-08-2007 10:48 PM

He hit another one tonight.

Not bad for an "old dude". Three bombs in five games :rolleyes:

I guess I'd only really care if he was on something if I was pitching to him ;)


KT

ikarcuaso 08-08-2007 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3417809)
He hit another one tonight.

I guess I'd only really care if he was on something if I was pitching to him ;)


KT

You'd really care if he was a Dodger.

trekkor 08-08-2007 11:03 PM

True...


KT

the 08-09-2007 04:27 PM

Sports needs more gentlemen like Bobby Jones. Played golf wearing a tie, and did things like this:

Bobby Jones, 1925 U.S. Open

The situation: On a greenside chip from a steep bank, Jones' ball moved ever so slightly just before impact.

The penalty: Rule 18-1 poses this question and answer: "Q. A ball lying in long grass slips vertically downward. Or a ball is accidentally stepped on and pressed down, say a quarter of an inch, in the grass or into the ground. In each case, has the ball moved? A. Yes, unless the ball returns to its original position. The direction of movement is immaterial."

The result: Even though nobody else saw the ball move, Jones called a 1-stroke penalty on himself. Because of this, he failed to win the tournament outright, instead dropping into a playoff with Willie Macfarlane, which he lost in 36 holes.

Racerbvd 08-09-2007 06:42 PM

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