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tabs 10-23-2007 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BRPORSCHE (Post 3548773)
Got to shoot this bad boy this weekend. Totally forgot wha it was so you guess is as good as mine, but jeez it was crazy. Pic is my friends step dad.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1193189511.jpg


Looks like a 50 cal Ruger of some kind....I think guys who like the big bore stuff are compensating for lack of equipment in other areas. They do absolutely nothing for me...

And the same goes for the Barret 50 BMG.BLAH....eariler this year I coulda bought a Barret model 82A NIB with all the goodies for $6500 out the door.

BRPORSCHE 10-23-2007 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkney911 (Post 3549003)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1193198951.jpg

i got to shoot this over the summer and it was an experience

Thats a Baretta .50 right? Sweet jesums that looks like quite a bit of fun.

Hawkney911 10-23-2007 10:42 PM

i believe it was a Armalite's AR-50 a little cheaper but it was still aload of fun i think it pushed me back solid foot on that picnic tablehttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1193208060.jpg

KFC911 10-24-2007 04:48 AM

That Diamondback .22 is just like the one I've owned for almost 30 years...a nice piece "out of the box" imo. I love to "plink" with that one, and leave my 629 (and others) for when "there is no substitute"...six rounds, and I'm through :)! They may just be "cheap plastic spoons", but I like 'em just fine...

Jeff Higgins 10-24-2007 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3549022)
Looks like a 50 cal Ruger of some kind....I think guys who like the big bore stuff are compensating for lack of equipment in other areas. They do absolutely nothing for me...

And the same goes for the Barret 50 BMG.BLAH....eariler this year I coulda bought a Barret model 82A NIB with all the goodies for $6500 out the door.

I think it's that new .50 S&W. Heavier than most of my hunting rifles. "Wheelgun" isn't supposed to mean wheels are required to transport it. Looks more like some godamn crew-fed weapon. Certainly not a "sidearm" by any stretch.

id10t 10-24-2007 05:35 AM

I do believe that the numbers on the luger are matching, but not to the mags or drum. Think it is priced at $2900 for the whole kit-n-kaboodle, perhaps a tad much for the refinished luger but the mag alone is probably worth 1700-2000...

Yah, thats a SW500... got one of them to list as well...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1193232663.jpg

Or perhaps a "1 of 3000" S&W 629, with presentation box, signed target, etc.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1193232755.jpg

Or a pimped out S&W model 10, with custom case. Not sure why the owner had this done, but hey, here it is...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1193232828.jpg

KFC911 10-24-2007 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by id10t (Post 3549330)
Or perhaps a "1 of 3000" S&W 629, with presentation box, signed target, etc.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1193232755.jpg...

I'll have to go check mine now...I don't recall a "1 of 3000" or anything, but the gun, case, etc. are identical to mine :). I think I've owned that one approx. 15 years...does that sound about right for the time frame (I don't know the ser. # off hand)?

id10t 10-24-2007 06:55 AM

KC911 -I think that time frame may be correct. In the gap in the box in right bottom corner is supposed to be the box of extra front site inserts, etc. (have 'em, just not in the pic). Don't have my notes with me, but I think this one is #153 of the bunch...

BRPORSCHE 10-24-2007 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 3549318)
I think it's that new .50 S&W. Heavier than most of my hunting rifles. "Wheelgun" isn't supposed to mean wheels are required to transport it. Looks more like some godamn crew-fed weapon. Certainly not a "sidearm" by any stretch.

Oh yeah, VERY heavy gun. Felt like you wre holding a 20 gauge with one hand. 6 shots from that and I was done. My friends step dad owns somthing like 40 guns. I was going through all of them and my new favorite shotgun was a Browning Superlite. WOW

Jeff Higgins 10-24-2007 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BRPORSCHE (Post 3549582)
Oh yeah, VERY heavy gun. Felt like you wre holding a 20 gauge with one hand. 6 shots from that and I was done. My friends step dad owns somthing like 40 guns. I was going through all of them and my new favorite shotgun was a Browning Superlite. WOW

Yeah, too large and heavy to be really useful. Kind of a neat curiousity, but really little more than that. If I'm hunting with something that heavy I would prefer to have a stock on it. And a longer barrel, without the muzzle brake, thank you very much. Big wheel guns are loud enough without them.

I much prefer a 4 3/4" single action Ruger in .45 Colt for hunting and general woods bumming. It has enough poop with heavy 300 grain loads to kill anything you will ever see on our contintent. No one really "needs" a .50 caliber wheel gun.

Years ago a buddy bought a custom Ruger in .475 Linbaugh. Built on the Blackhawk frame with a five shot, unfluted cylinder, it launches 350-375 grain bullets faster than a .44 mag will launch 240-250 grainers. It's almost unshootable. Your first shot will hit what you are aiming at (if you haven't watched some one else light it off first) but the rest never will, once you know what's coming. I shoot a lot; I shoot big bore revolvers a lot. I still can't shoot that gun. And there is still nothing it will kill that my .45 Colt won't as well. I bet this .50 S&W is a lot like that.

John Linebaugh (or maybe it's Hamilton Bowen) also sells Ruger single actions converted to .50-70 Government. I guess he is very picky about who he sells them to; you must convince him you have a "real" need or he will refuse to build one for you. He recommends anyone shooting full-house loads in one for the first time wear a bicycle helmet. He did the first time he fired his, and the hammer spur buried itself in the front of that helmet. The backstrap also split the web of his hand, right through a padded shooting glove. This is a gun with notably more power than the .50 S&W, and it is in a realistic carry gun sized package. How much is too much?

tabs 10-24-2007 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 3549278)
That Diamondback .22 is just like the one I've owned for almost 30 years...a nice piece "out of the box" imo. I love to "plink" with that one, and leave my 629 (and others) for when "there is no substitute"...six rounds, and I'm through :)! They may just be "cheap plastic spoons", but I like 'em just fine...


The Diamondback has become an expensive plastic spoon. They are currently going for $1200 to $1400. The 629 depending whether its pinned and recessed is worth $500 up to $900 depending. Did it ever dawn on you that you don't need to shoot hot loads through the 44 Mag. In the Dirty Harry movies Clint was shooting light loads. With lighter loads the 44 Mag is rather tame, and you can shoot more of them enjoyably.

KFC911 10-25-2007 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3550025)
The Diamondback has become an expensive plastic spoon. They are currently going for $1200 to $1400. The 629 depending whether its pinned and recessed is worth $500 up to $900 depending. Did it ever dawn on you that you don't need to shoot hot loads through the 44 Mag. In the Dirty Harry movies Clint was shooting light loads. With lighter loads the 44 Mag is rather tame, and you can shoot more of them enjoyably.

Gulp...plastic spoons didn't cost so much back then! The .44 is probably the least practical piece I own...I don't break it out that much, but when I do, it's for the magnum effect. I'm pretty sure Clint used blanks :)

tabs 10-25-2007 02:53 AM

KC why beat the fk outa yourself when ya don't have to? Of course Clint was firing blanks but they represented lighter loads vs hot loads. The Mdl 29 also fires 44 SPL rounds as well.

The 458 Win Mag is another cartridge that can be downloaded for tamer shooting.

KFC911 10-25-2007 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3551259)
KC why beat the fk outa yourself when ya don't have to?....

That's why my .45 and .22 see most of the action. I save the .44 (and other mags) for friends. I love to watch someone's reaction when they squeeze off their first round in a .44 mag, and the realization hits them that Clint can only do what he does "in the movies".

ps: why beat the fk outa myself you ask? ....'cause I can :)

Jeff Higgins 10-25-2007 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3551259)
KC why beat the fk outa yourself when ya don't have to? Of course Clint was firing blanks but they represented lighter loads vs hot loads. The Mdl 29 also fires 44 SPL rounds as well.

The 458 Win Mag is another cartridge that can be downloaded for tamer shooting.

The vast majority of my big bore revolver shooting is done with standard velocity .45 Colt or .44 Special. There is just no reason to pound yourself with the heavy loads. With a bit of tinkering, it is possible to find a heavy bullet, high velocity load that shoots to the same point of impact as the light bullet, low velocity loads. I have 300 grain loads that crack 1200 fps from both, and 250-260 grain loads that do about 900 fps from each.

As a matter of fact, as I get older and feel less and less need to impress (myself or anyone else), I often wonder if I even need those heavy loads. Maybe for elk, or black bear, but certainly not for deer or self defense. I've killed deer and pronghorn just fine with standard velocity .45 Colt loads. I use the RCBS .45-255K cast from wheel weights, over 17 grains of 2400 or 40 grains of Swiss 1.5 Fg black powder. They go just over 900 fps from a 4 3/4 Peacemaker. Shoots clear through 250 pound mulies from any angle. What more do we need?

Oh, and by the way, a .458 makes a wonderful cast bullet gun with reduced loads. A little tougher to make work than the .45-70, but it can be done. The bigger case and faster twist (14" in most .458's vs. 18"-20" in most .45-70's) makes it more of a challenge, but not insurmountable. The Lymann # 457125 500 grain round nose makes a great .458 bullet. Loaded down to around 1200 fps it makes for a fun plinking load, and will still certainly kill anything you can see from here. Far more pleasant than my 500 grain Hornadys at 2200 fps. Ouch... It hurts just typing that...

id10t 10-25-2007 05:31 AM

I love my 44 mag.... no recoil to speak of,and the wife loves shooting it too.

Of course, its one of the old original Ruger carbines....


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