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kach22i 02-07-2008 08:46 AM
Microwave Weapons
 
If some of you are squeamish about railguns, then brace yourself for this H.G. Wells "War of the Worlds" weapon. If you have read the orignial book, you know what I'm talking about - the invisible ray.

ARDEC looks into microwave artillery weapon
http://www.janes.com/defence/news/jdw/jdw060728_1_n.shtml
By Nathan Hodge JDW Staff Reporter
Washington, DC

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A solicitation recently issued by the Army Research, Development and Engineering Command (ARDEC) at Picatinny Arsenal, New Jersey, announced a market survey to identify possible sources for developing an HPM payload for a 155 mm artillery round or 120 mm mortar shell. The device, according to the solicitation, "must be properly designed to defeat significant targets on the battlefield, be gun-hardened [and] munitionised".

In addition, the HPM round would have to be compatible with indirect-fire systems being developed under the army's Future Combat Systems modernisation programme. According to the solicitation, the army wants a round that could be fired from a non-line-of-sight (NLOS) cannon, NLOS mortar and the Mounted Combat Systems Vehicle and would also be compatible with legacy weapon systems.

The weapon would have to survive launch from a 155 mm artillery tube or 120 mm mortar or tank cannon and require no maintenance during storage.

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The reason you may not be reading a lot about microwave cannons is the last general who talked about it mentioned using/in-field testing it on war protestors and during civil outbreaks.........................makes you wonder about the fruit loops with their hand on the trigger.:(

What freaks me out about the microwave stuff is that it goes through just about any barrier. You can't hide behind a wall or a bush with these systems.

Mule 02-07-2008 08:49 AM
We can melt their chocolate at 1000 m.

island911 02-07-2008 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 3753777)
........makes you wonder about the fruit loops with their hand on the trigger.:(

What freaks me out about the microwave stuff is that it goes through just about any barrier. You can't hide behind a wall or a bush with these systems.
Maybe you need a tin-foil hat?

frogger 02-07-2008 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mule (Post 3753790)
We can melt their chocolate at 1000 m.
That'll teach them to fuch with us! Sticky messs. Muhahahahahaha! :D

kach22i 02-07-2008 08:53 AM
Details of US microwave-weapon tests revealed
22 July 2005
NewScientist.com news service
David Hambling

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18725095.600
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VOLUNTEERS taking part in tests of the Pentagon's "less-lethal" microwave weapon were banned from wearing glasses or contact lenses due to safety fears. The precautions raise concerns about how safe the Active Denial System (ADS) weapon would be if used in real crowd-control situations............................During the experiments, people playing rioters put up their hands when hit and were given a 15-second cooling-down period before being targeted again. One person suffered a burn in a previous test when the beam was accidentally used on the wrong power setting.
Sounds like fun, I wasn't planning on having children anyway.


Microwave weapon intensified by sweaty skin
12:27 15 September 2006
NewScientist.com news service
David Hambling

http://technology.newscientist.com/article/dn10084
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Nevertheless, the weapon may be safer than some alternatives. More than 9000 experimental exposures to the ADS have produced just six cases of blistering and one second-degree burn caused by an accidental overexposure. The US army wants permission to deploy the system in Iraq, but the decision has been delayed while tests continue.

frogger 02-07-2008 08:56 AM
Set your phasers to "Incinerate." :D

M.D. Holloway 02-07-2008 08:58 AM
maybe we should go back to fighting with knives and swords. At least them you have to get up front and personal with your enemy.

SXSMAN 02-07-2008 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 3753796)
Maybe you need a tin-foil hat?
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kach22i 02-07-2008 09:03 AM
Air Force Plots $75 Million Microwave Weapon Push
By Noah Shachtman January 17, 2008
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/01/air-force-plots.html
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The Air Force Research Lab is starting a new, long-term, $60-75 million project to develop high-powered microwave weapons, for both "airborne and mobile ground based systems." That's on top of a "near-term" Air Armament Command effort to use microwaves "as a Counter Electronics payload that would not cause physical damage to buildings or harm to humans."
I bet it takes too much energy to vaporize humans, cheaper to cut communications and other weapon systems (like cell phones for road side bombs).

frogger 02-07-2008 09:04 AM
What's the good of it if it doesn't vaporize anyone?

Mule 02-07-2008 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by frogger (Post 3753799)
That'll teach them to fuch with us! Sticky messs. Muhahahahahaha! :D
If the muslims get it it will be ALLAH MELT BAR!

kach22i 02-07-2008 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by frogger (Post 3753840)
What's the good of it if it doesn't vaporize anyone?
That would be useful as a weapon of terror, but we already have nukes. There is someting very attactive to governments about "controlling" their citizens.

What good is the "right to bear arms" if the gun gets too hot to hold OR the ammo goes off in your face as you raise it to take aim?

I still don't have the wacko's name, but here is that article I referred to.

US to Use Microwave Weapons On America Citizens
By Lolita C. Baldor
The Associated Press
Tuesday 12 September 2006
http://www.mondovista.com/microwave.html
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Washington - Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before they are used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday....................... The contract is expected to be worth at least $20 billion.

Chicago-based Boeing lost the tanker deal in 2004 amid revelations that it had hired a top Air Force acquisitions official who had given the company preferential treatment.

Wynne also said the Air Force, which is already chopping 40,000 active duty, civilian and reserves jobs, is now struggling to find new ways to slash about $1.8 billion from its budget to cover costs from the latest round of base closings.

70SATMan 02-07-2008 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 3753777)
What freaks me out about the microwave stuff is that it goes through just about any barrier. You can't hide behind a wall or a bush with these systems.
I've worked on some BIG power ground station systems for un-named customers at frequencies such that the only purpose I can think of using it would be to totally obliterate all onboard electronics on a bird.

If I remember correctly, scientists were working this concept of microwave as a weapon long ago (WWII).

70SATMan 02-07-2008 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 3753834)
Air Force Plots $75 Million Microwave Weapon Push
By Noah Shachtman January 17, 2008
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/01/air-force-plots.html


I bet it takes too much energy to vaporize humans, cheaper to cut communications and other weapon systems (like cell phones for road side bombs).
Doesn't take much at the right frequency to boil you from the inside out.

kach22i 02-07-2008 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 70SATMan (Post 3753894)
I've worked on some BIG power ground station systems for un-named customers at frequencies such that the only purpose I can think of using it would be to totally obliterate all onboard electronics on a bird.

If I remember correctly, scientists were working this concept of microwave as a weapon long ago (WWII).
The History Channel said the Germans and the Japanese lost a lot of time trying to develop a "death ray". The Brits were fortunate enough to see an adjacent utility known now as Radar.

kach22i 02-07-2008 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 70SATMan (Post 3753900)
Doesn't take much at the right frequency to boil you from the inside out.
You would go blind long before that point, and I think somehow that the UN and civil rights groups would have less of a problem with "a clean kill" or total vaporization.

onewhippedpuppy 02-07-2008 09:36 AM
Am I the only person that pictured microwave ovens being dropped from a plane? That would hurt......

kach22i 02-07-2008 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 3753942)
Am I the only person that pictured microwave ovens being dropped from a plane? That would hurt......
We could dump all of our old TV's, CTR computer monitors and other useless stuff too.:D


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