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M.D. Holloway 02-22-2008 10:07 AM

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George Bernard Shaw once said, “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world, the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” John Elkington talks about how the most successful social entrepreneurs are unreasonable, but their emotional, highly ambitious nature drives them to solve some of the world’s most pressing problems.
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MRM 02-22-2008 10:26 AM

I'm listening to a rebroadcast of the debate at my desk today. I had never listened to the debates because they hurt my ears but it was on so I started listening. I had heard that Obama doesn't debate well and I had heard that Clinton took a very safe route on the debates, so I was curious to see how it really went.

I was surprised to hear Obama isn't as smooth in debate as he is on the stump. He gets his point across but he pauses and talks in a herky-jerky manner. It's kind of annoying and is completely different than how he is on the stump. In the end, though, I do think he got the better of Clinton.

Clinton did play it safe, but she really does come across as unpeasant. She tried to pin a plagerism tag on Obama for borrowing speaches from some politician who supports Obama and had used the same speaches before. Obama responded by saying it was Washington-crazy to suggest he plagerized something when his buddy thought up the line, tried it out, and when it worked gave him the line and told him to use it. He got a big laugh and Clinton looked bad. But she didn't stop and in her response kept at him and called him Barak. I think calling your oponent by first name is a bit unprofessional in a late presidential debate.

Overall I wasn't that impressed with either. I thought Obama got the better of the exchanges because Clinton really did come off as shrill. She talked down the moderators a couple of times.

varmint 02-22-2008 10:48 AM

remember, George Bernard Shaw was a eugenicist. And "progress" meant extermination of the lesser races.



a motorcycle cop was just killed while escorting clinton. not her fault, should in no way reflect on her. but just an example of the way fate craps on everything around a person when they're down.

jyl 02-22-2008 01:44 PM

She might be at the right ending point, but I think it's easier to get there in stages than all at once.

Get health insurance clearly affordable, then see what happens.

If a large number of adults choose to leave themselves uninsured - tens of millions - then the country can either (1) force them to purchase insurance, or (2) ration/deny free healthcare to those who choose the 22" rims.

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Originally Posted by Rearden (Post 3784412)
Sadly, I fear that Hillary is correct here. If millions of people can't be bothered to take an interest in their child's education, then I'm sure there are millions who will decide to buy 22" rims rather than purchase affordable healthcare. Personal responsibility has left the building.



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