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kach22i 04-23-2008 09:42 AM

"REX 84" camps
 
What can you tell me about this (FEMA?) program which does not make me snicker or get too involved with conspiracy theories?

Typical video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6981490430619415038


"REX 84" camps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84
Quote:

Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was a plan by the United States federal government to test their ability to detain large numbers of American citizens in case of massive civil unrest or national emergency. Exercises similar to Rex 84 happen periodically.[1] Plans for roundups of persons in the United States in times of crisis are constructed during periods of increased political repression such as the Palmer Raids and the McCarthy Era. For example, from 1967 to 1971 the FBI kept a list of persons to be rounded up as subversive, dubbed the "ADEX" list.[2]
FEMA Concentration Camps:
Locations and Executive Orders

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm
Quote:

There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached.

Jeff Higgins 04-23-2008 11:38 AM

What do I have to do to get my name on the list? I've always wanted to be one some one's list.

bivenator 04-23-2008 11:40 AM

Jeff, you are already on it.

Seric 04-23-2008 11:56 AM

Look out Politikal Dissidents!!

onewhippedpuppy 04-23-2008 12:09 PM

The next paragraph in kachi's "reference".

"Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation."

You know, it's all starting to fall into place. You very well just may be insane. In case nobody has informed you, the mere fact that something is on the internet does not make it true. You copy/paste from Wikipedia and some black helicopter website, and pass it off as fact. Get some REAL, respected, and impartial sources, then you might find an interested audience. What a load of BS.......

Rick Lee 04-23-2008 12:11 PM

They'd better be real good and willing shooters.

Jim Richards 04-23-2008 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 3903725)
What do I have to do to get my name on the list? I've always wanted to be one some one's list.

Yes Jeff, I did some checking around and you most definately are on some lists. :cool:

id10t 04-23-2008 12:21 PM

+1. I think if a general population roundup started there would be some pockets of "resistance". :)

http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/friends_links.html

"Lights out" and "Pax Americana" are good, as is "Battle of Jakes". Well worth reading, good stories. Content is related to original post as well...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 3903789)
They'd better be real good and willing shooters.


cashflyer 04-23-2008 12:32 PM

Old news? Just war games?

According to Daniel Sheehan, founder of public interest law firm The Christic Institute, "In early May of 1984, I was supplied with a number of documents describing, in some detail, a project supervised by then Special Assistant California State Attorney General Edwin Meese code-named "Project Cable Splicer" ...part of a larger program, code-named "Project Garden Plot" --which was a nation-wide war games scenario...to establish a nation-wide state of martial law if Richard Nixon's "political enemies" required him to declare a State of National Emergency."

Also...
Quote:

The original story of Cable Splicer and Garden Plot broke in the alternative press in 1975 in an article by Ron Ridenhour with Arthur Lublow published in Arizona's New Times. Garden Plot was also the cover story for the Winter 1976 issue of CounterSpy magazine. Dozens of pages of the unedited official documents from Garden Plot and Cable Splicer were reprinted in the magazine. Copies of the official documents were made available to trial teams in several cities litigating against illegal government intelligence abuse.

dtw 04-23-2008 12:39 PM

You really miss the X-Files, don't ya?

cashflyer 04-23-2008 12:40 PM

According to the book, Washington's War on Nicaragua:
Quote:

Louis Giuffrida played a key role with Edwin Meese, then Reagan's executive secretary, in developing a martial law plan embodied in Operation Cable Splicer (related to national Nixon-era plans called Operation Garden Plot and Lantern Spike) [...] Operation Cable Splicer (I, II, and III) involved a series of martial "war games" during 1968-1972 involving state and local police, the National Guard, and elements of the US Sixth Army. The targets of the exercise were activists on college campuses and in the Black community."

kach22i 04-23-2008 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 3903822)
...to establish a nation-wide state of martial law if Richard Nixon's "political enemies" required him to declare a State of National Emergency."

Sounds like something Tricky Dick would be into.:cool:

The latest theory is a holding place for illegal immigrants, before that political voices against Bush/Cheney.

I think I showed this a few years ago to someone working with FEMA and they said the site location list was wacked and mostly made up. Some locations on the list are real, but just small offices and not huge bases with trains and fences.

onewhippedpuppy, thank you for your opinion but you made me snicker even more - at you.

I cannot find impartial sources, just asking for help with that part.

If there were outbreaks of diseases or war, would you want the government to have a plan, a place to deal with it on a massive scale?

Just asking.;)

nostatic 04-23-2008 12:46 PM

run by FEMA.

Umm...how efficient/effective you think that's going to be?

"You're doing a great job there, Brownie!"

Jim Richards 04-23-2008 12:47 PM

Hater

Dueller 04-23-2008 02:27 PM

Don't think its true? Aerial shot of the "camp" in Hope, Arkansas where 10,000+ FEMA trailers are ready:D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1208989657.jpg

Rick Lee 04-23-2008 04:54 PM

They must alread have those camps up and running, since I've never seen any Bush/Cheney haters who had actually been rounded up and silenced. That means they're already in those camps. Absence of evidence and all....

craigster59 04-23-2008 06:00 PM

Alright, that clinches it. To hell with the high gas prices, I'm buying a black Chevy Suburban w/ tinted windows so I can "blend"....

the 04-23-2008 06:10 PM

Don't worry, help is on the way!

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kach22i 04-25-2008 10:07 AM

The Bunker
www.greenbrier.com/site/bunker.aspx
Quote:

Visit the former U.S. Government Relocation Facility, commonly known as the Bunker. Public tours are available.

New Meeting Rooms

As a part of the Bunker's recent renovations, The Greenbrier added five meeting rooms ranging from 670-730 square feet. The rooms, Knowland, Johnson, Rayburn, Stewart and Martin, were named for the leaders of the House and Senate and the Architect of the Capitol when the project began in 1956. Looking for a nontraditional meeting space or event location? The Greenbrier can assist with hosting parties in the Bunker using a James Bond, M*A*S*H or spy themes.

Meetings have played an integral role in the bunker story since its completion in 1962. Part of the cover story for the facility was the addition of the Exhibit Hall and two meeting rooms, which were made available to groups meeting at The Greenbrier.

During the 30 years that the bunker was a secret, groups were meeting there and enjoying theme parties and dinners, without realizing they were in a top-secret government facility. They never realized that the Exhibit Hall was actually designed to be the work place for Congressional staff or that the Mountaineer Room and Governor's Hall would easily accommodate the US Senate and House of Representatives.
They have a Golf Course and Horseback Riding too. :D

onewhippedpuppy 04-25-2008 10:18 AM

Now that you've moved beyond conspiracy, that's pretty cool.

kach22i 05-13-2008 08:15 AM

double post

kach22i 05-13-2008 08:16 AM

In Germany
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.bwb.org/01DB022000000001/CurrentBaseLink/W26WP973283INFODE&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=re sult&prev=/search%3Fq%3DLuftkissenfahrzeug%2Bbei%2Bder%2BErpr obung%2Bauf%2Bder%2BMosel%2B(Quelle:%2BWTD%2B51)%2 6hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG
The mobile control center animal diseases in the WTD 51 in Koblenz-Rübenach (Source: BWB)
http://www.bwb.org/02DB022000000001/...LE/MBZ2640.jpg

What kind of animals?;)

Arf, arf, moooooooooo:D

Pretty small doors for animals, not barn-like at all.

m21sniper 05-13-2008 08:19 AM

These camps do exist, they are surrounded by armed guards, they are for the housing of Americans.

It's no conspiracy theory, though it is surely pretty spooky...if that is their intended use. They could just be for, you know, hurricane victims.

kach22i 05-13-2008 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 3939662)
housing of Americans..

I finally get my free housing.:p

Rick Lee 05-13-2008 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 3939662)
These camps do exist, they are surrounded by armed guards, they are for the housing of Americans.

Yeah, and so is just about every prison in the U.S. They ain't for housing Brits or Lithuanians. And which prisons don't have armed guards? This is like saying marriage is the #1 cause of divorce.

m21sniper 05-13-2008 08:26 AM

There are no prisoners in them. They are FEMA sites. Not prisons. Empty FEMA sites.

Make of them what you will.

kach22i 05-13-2008 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 3939687)
There are no prisoners in them. They are FEMA sites. Not prisons. Empty FEMA sites.

Make of them what you will.

Can you find me information which does not look like it's from the creators of the "X-Files" TV show?

m21sniper 05-13-2008 08:30 AM

Besides all the existing pictures and videos you mean?

Shall i don my cammies and fingertip crawl the entire perimeter of one to get you precise data and improved imagery? How much you paying? :D

I don't work for free you know. LOL...

Of course the nuts are all over them. Nuts are all over everything. Just because there are nuts that think they can talk to aliens via their dental fillings doesn't mean that dental fillings don't exist, right?

m21sniper 05-13-2008 08:39 AM

I will say this. If any of you think there are no military plans for martial law in the US, you're nuts. There is a plan for everything.

There are precedents of the US gov't siezing massive numbers of US citizens and holding them illegally. There are VERY RECENT precedents of the US gov't disarming and detaining US citizens illegally, wholesale, in a systematic fashion. This happened during Katrina, it's not X-files.

kach22i 05-13-2008 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 3939716)
There are precedents of the US gov't siezing massive numbers of US citizens and holding them illegally.

Didn't they do this in Orange County after 9/11/2001 and fill the jails with Mexicans and Arabs?

Where were the camps then?

I can use "Google Earth", Cheney's house is blurred out and maybe Area-51, but all the Rex Bravo 84's?

Toss me a couple locations and I'll do the Google Earth for everyone.:)

m21sniper 05-13-2008 08:49 AM

Well, if you are looking for 'concentration camps' as the nuts profess to exist, im sure you'll be sorely disappointed. However, if you're looking for ****loads of trailers in big fenced in areas with armed guards, you should surely be able to find some pictures, images, heck, maybe even gps coords on google. It is your thread afterall. :)

What is it exactly that you think the US gov't would put in trailers, if it's not people? And why does it surprise you that they group them together, and guard them?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 3939723)
Didn't they do this in Orange County after 9/11/2001 and fill the jails with Mexicans and Arabs?

I don't know, did they? I was thinking of WWII and the internment of the Japanese.

EDIT: Any sort of google brings up all the nutjob sites, to get any kind of real info you'd have to weed through 10 tons of bs i think. Have fun with that. :)

kach22i 05-13-2008 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 3939740)
What is it exactly that you think the US gov't would put in trailers, if it's not people? And why does it surprise you that they group them together, and guard them?

I've seen the FEMA trial aerial images on the off-gassing of the insulation story.

The ones shown at the top of this page is what Germany has developed, they look like International Shipping containers which are used as housing in many parts of the world. For instance the huge earthquake which nearly destroyed Armenia in 1988 has left people still living in those temporary housing structures to this day.

It Happens Here

http://www.motherjones.com/news/qa/2004/08/08_401dowqa.html
Quote:

MJ.com: You mentioned that after 9/11 there was pressure by the Justice Department to look like they were doing something, by rounding as many people as they could find.

MD: Yeah. I quote from a letter from FBI agent Colleen Rowley. This letter has an amazing little paragraph in it where she expresses concern over the pressure from FBI offices to round up Arabs in order to fill the detention centers. Likewise, Ashcroft repeatedly used the term "terrorist" to describe the people who were being detained, when he was certainly in a position to know that they were not terrorists.

m21sniper 05-13-2008 08:58 AM

There are still people living in the Katrina trailers too aren't there?

kach22i 05-13-2008 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 3939753)
There are still people living in the Katrina trailers too aren't there?

Yep, I think they are supposed to crack open a window or something, I did not follow the story.

Tobra 05-13-2008 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 3907546)
Now that you've moved beyond conspiracy, that's pretty cool.

Part of George's growth as an individual

There are still people living in trailers and hotels from Katrina.

Those pics of hundreds of empty trailers, they can't take them into a flood zone, so taking them to New Orleans is verboten, little flaw in that plan eh?

There is a government contingency plan for any situation you can imagine. Execution of the plan is where they get into trouble. If the FEMA people are responsible for putting me in a concentration camp, pardon me if I don't get too worried about it.

kach22i 05-15-2008 12:46 PM

When the zombie virus breaks out, you will all be happy that we have those Rex 84 Bravo sites - fill those death trains, fill them to the brim.
http://monstermovieblog.blogspot.com/2007_10_01_archive.html
http://kensforce.com/news092407a.jpg


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