Now that's a shame .......
 

How would you like to have someone like her for a neighbor?

Went off her meds.

"The inquest heard that Paula Small was driving her Fiat Punto when Ms Sutton-Smith emerged from a side road without stopping, causing her to swerve to avoid a collision. Mrs Small was forced on the grass verge and she flashed her lights as Ms Sutton-Smith passed her.

Ms Sutton-Smith then pulled over and Mrs Small stopped a short way in front of her. She was getting out when the Vauxhall Nova rammed her car."

Yeah, probably off her meds, but also, how often does it happen that the in-too-big-of-a-hurry, narcissitic nutjob who commits the error/offense is the one who gets angry when called on it?

I'm sure most people here have many good stories on encounters with that type of driver.

There's a chance Smith wouldn't have "gone postal" if Small hadn't flashed her lights. I'm sure Smith heard that as "YOU IDIOT!"

Which would've been accurate, of course.

Yep, Yep, Yep and Yep.

Something about those women who feel the need to hyphenate their surnames...

that's funny considering your screen name :p

Sounds like my ex-wife, except for the "large" thing.

Touche.

But I'm not a woman. And that's not my surname.

I am however, prone to occasionally finding myself in flaming vehicles, much to my chagrin...

zing!

good one!

This mentally imbalanced person committed suicide. More should have been done to remove her from the car. She obviously needed help and didn't get any.

sounds to me like she got plenty of help. imagine forcefully removing her from the car and the legal fiasco that would have ensued. good riddance.

She was someone's wife, mother, sister, aunt. Let's hope your family never needs lifesaving assistance while onlookers argue if they deserve it.

hah! did you read the article? at least three people tried to help her. i'd be ashamed if my wife behaved like that. again, good riddance.

there always has to be some pseudo-sensitive person that wants to take the 'high road'. i would have tried to help her if i was there, but i wouldn't have stuck around to be burnt up with her.

if you can't move someone by lighting a fire under their ass, then they undoubtedly don't want to move.

"suffered from bipolar disorder.

Alan Crickmore, the Gloucestershire coroner, said that her mental condition meant that she failed to appreciate the danger she was in."

No sympathy for the mentally ill?

Not by some. Nynor would be ashamed if knew anyone mentally ill. No doubt would reflect poorly on him. "Good Riddance" shows how little compassion can come from the self absorbed.

This really has little to do with road rage. That was just a trigger. She could have been sitting on tracks with train bearing down.

ah, terryh, ad hominem attacks. is that the best you can do?

bipolar does not mean incapable of understanding danger. i work with the mentally ill. that is what i do, until i finish respiratory therapy school.

the position you are taking is that because she was mentally ill, she is the victim. that is exactly what one of the main flaws of our system for dealing with the mentally ill happens to be. instead of holding them responsible for their actions and allowing them to face the consequences, we pander to them, allow them to hold us hostage to their actions and illness, and enable their behavior. the fact is that this woman is responsible. period. she created a situation that was not only dangerous to herself, but to everyone in the immediate vicinity. again, good riddance.

now, if you wish to twist my words, a la wife vs. mentally ill, go ahead. have at it. knock yourself out. your argument is flawed and everyone knows it.

to answer this question in a word, no. no sympathy. empathy, yes. sympathy, no. sympathy twists the relationship in an unhealthy way. empathy allows for compassion of their suffering, but also allows the other person to be responsible for their actions.

Unless a person somehow chooses to be mentally ill, I see them as a victim.

And Nynor, you are the last person I'd want treating anyone I know for anything. Good luck and please practice only in Utah.

and there you have it. they are all victims, even when they victimize others.

its interesting that you have so much compassion, except for someone that you disagree with. good luck with that.

I have zero compassion for someone that has so little regard for life. That this person deserved to die and somehow we are all supposed to feel better and the world is a better place because she died.

Yes, I could have ignored this thread, but I'm enjoying reading your insight.

apparently, you aren't listening. and you are a hypocrite. preach on.

So you have an identification with and understanding of another's situation, feelings, and motives (definition of empathy), but no feeling or an expression of pity or sorrow for the distress of that person; no compassion or commiseration (definition of sympathy)?

If that's the case, I think you have no business "working with the mentally ill", and suspect that your employer, if a certified mental health professional, would agree if they were aware of your perspective.

nope, i don't pity them. that is a bad position. and yes i do make an effort to understand their situation, etc. pity will not help them. pity only makes them more dependent upon the system. do i think it is unfortunate that people suffer? of course! people do not need pity, they need objective HELP. pity is not helping them. do you enjoy being pitied? does it help you to know that people pity you?

empathy allows for an understanding of their predicament. sympathy enables it.

Exactly. And Smith's predicament could have been caused partly by her own volition re: she could have been off her meds against her doctor's instruction.

Those of you who are attacking nynor should remember that in an earlier post, he said, "i would have tried to help her if i was there, but i wouldn't have stuck around to be burnt up with her."

There should be no complaints about his position, or his ability to treat and care for mentally ill patients.

So the emphasised and reaffirmed use of "good riddance" is what you'd expect from a caregiver when a mentally ill patient expires unnecessarily? Even if he is elated by her agonizing death, does he have to share that here? Does she represent one less patient he may have to change the bedpan for?

nynor stated he has his own agenda regarding the mentally ill.

well what if she had not died..what if she
killed the other woman and driven of to lunch..
now who are we feeling sorry or compassion for..? Now it's.supervise the med intake..
she should not be driving,she should in a ward,

oh the woman she tried to kill also had a sister, Mom..
they tried, she choose toast.

Rika

My father was and my sister is bi-polar.

Having a mental illness does not relieve a person of culpability for their actions. My father used to intentionally binge and purge with his medications (not taking any for a while, then taking large doses) to cause medical emergencies and get sympathy from people. He would "punish" those close to him by putting himself in the hospital and blaming others for the actions he took to put him there. The ways he compromised his body were a contributing factor in his death. No matter what those around him did, he always found fault and felt the need to punish them--it just took progressively more severe "emergencies" to get the same reactions from people.

My sister was very resistant to taking medication when she was first diagnosed as bi-polar (15 or so years ago). She has been taking her medication religously for the past ten years and she functions normally. In fact, very few of her close friends know that she is bi-polar, and that is not an issue because she is in control of the disease.

To sum it up:
This nutcase who didn't take her medication (speculated) and tried to run over another woman and who threatened those who tried to help is really the victim here.
The blame falls squarely on the lady who flashed her lights and the on-lookers who didn't risk their lives to save her against her will.
Hopefully the family will sue the other lady, the onlookers, the doctor, the department of motor vehicles for giving her a license, the tire manufactuer, the car manufacturer, the fire department for not getting there quicker, and anyone else within 2 miles at the time of the incident. They all deserve to ber punished.

Compassion is a good thing until it clouds reason and logic.

This is a bizarre and sad story. It just goes to show how crazy some people are out there. The past couple weeks we heard about the guy getting beaten with a hammer and nobody helping, one of our own witnessed a car getting stolen without saying a word and here a woman burnt to death because of her mental state even when people tried removing her from the car.

That's it, I'm buying a gun.

hmm... where did i state that i was elated? and where did i state that i have my own agenda?

despite your personal attacks, i would still care for you and give you the best care possible. would i feel sorry for you? no. would i have compassion for your condition and do the best i could to make you comfortable? yes.

but this is the kind of verbal abuse you dish out, on the internet, when someone has a different position than you. i have yet to cut you off, or ram your car, yet you would have us believe that you are somehow superior and/or enlightened. take care, terryh.

Agreed.

They (women) are ALL a little bit crazy inside but this is a horribly sad story.

sort of like the dumb b!tch who weaved in and out of traffic this morning with no use of turn signals. I eventually drove by her and yells "Turn signal you dumb ******** b!tch! She flipped me off. No sympathy, no empathy.