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126coupe 12-24-2008 08:48 AM

Madoff Commits Suicide
 
Slashed his wrists with a box cutter

cgarr 12-24-2008 08:52 AM

Isn't that against the law?

onlycafe 12-24-2008 08:58 AM

not madoff, it was this guy.

Rene-Thierry Magon de la Villehuchet was found sitting at his desk at about 8am with both wrists slashed, New York police spokesman Paul Browne said.

the 12-24-2008 08:58 AM

I think your post title is missing a word.

126coupe 12-24-2008 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onlycafe (Post 4377854)
not madoff, it was this guy.

Rene-Thierry Magon de la Villehuchet was found sitting at his desk at about 8am with both wrists slashed, New York police spokesman Paul Browne said.

woops, my wife gave me wrong info, thanks for the clarification SmileWavy

Jim Richards 12-24-2008 09:03 AM

Ya gotta love Wall Street.

sammyg2 12-24-2008 09:07 AM

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Rene-Thierry Magon de la Villehuchet
If I had a name like that I'd be a little depressed too ;)

What kind of asshat thinks his life is only worth living if he has lots of money? Kind of makes a personal statement, doesn't it?

I like money as much or more than the next guy, but it doesn't dictate how much my life is worth.

speeder 12-24-2008 09:14 AM

I think it was more that he lost other people's life savings, not lack of money in his account.

stomachmonkey 12-24-2008 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 4377875)
If I had a name like that I'd be a little depressed too ;)

What kind of asshat thinks his life is only worth living if he has lots of money? Kind of makes a personal statement, doesn't it?

I like money as much or more than the next guy, but it doesn't dictate how much my life is worth.

I think it was because he was running a fund that was heavily invested in Madoff and lost a lot of people a lot of money.

Heard he was trying to recoup money for his clients and probably realized it was a lost cause.

pwd72s 12-24-2008 01:10 PM

He probably figured life wasn't worth living in a federal lockup...

Hawktel 12-24-2008 01:53 PM

It wasn't Madoff, but a money manager who invested in him.


And I don't think it was over his money. Believe it or not a lot of investment bankers take the clients money very seriously.

Perhaps too seriously in this case.

Tishabet 12-24-2008 01:55 PM

From what I understand, this guy invested both his clients' money and his own with Madoff, and of course that money is now gone. I don't think anyone has accused him of any personal wrongdoing per se.

the 12-24-2008 01:56 PM

I don't think Madoff would ever commit suicide. He knows where billions are secreted away, and he'll want to get it to the people he wants to get it to.

They should send him to Gitmo, we can test how effective torture can be in getting information.

VaSteve 12-24-2008 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawktel (Post 4378489)
It wasn't Madoff, but a money manager who invested in him.


And I don't think it was over his money. Believe it or not a lot of investment bankers take the clients money very seriously.

Perhaps too seriously in this case.

He took it too seriously and Madoff not enough.

tabs 12-24-2008 02:58 PM

The man felt personal responsibility for the loss. He could not bring himself to face the people that he had failed. Whose savings he had lost.

In Japan or ancient Rome he took the honorable way out..

Dottore 12-24-2008 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 4378612)

The man felt personal responsibility for the loss. He could not bring himself to face the people that he had failed. Whose savings he had lost.

He was, in other words, a sensitive and honorable man. A rare quality in the financial community these days.

Oracle 12-24-2008 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaSteve (Post 4378500)
He took it too seriously and Madoff not enough.

Cause Madoff is a true crook. Hopefully he rots in jail.
Merry xmas.

Gogar 12-24-2008 03:09 PM

If we were in Japan, he would be an honorable man, but we're not in Japan.

competentone 12-24-2008 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabs (Post 4378612)
The man felt personal responsibility for the loss. He could not bring himself to face the people that he had failed. Whose savings he had lost.

In Japan or ancient Rome he took the honorable way out..

The honorable way in the U.S., if he felt responsible for the loss of his clients' money, would be for him to stay alive and keep working to try to earn money and pay his clients back.

the 12-24-2008 03:57 PM

I agree, seems like a cowardly man, took the easy way out.

widgeon13 12-24-2008 04:09 PM

If this guy put all his eggs in one basket and the funds of others who trusted him as well, he is at best stupid, and doing it with other peoples money demonstrates the usual WS greed. Suicide was the easy way out, sorry!

lowyder993s 12-24-2008 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabs (Post 4378612)
The man felt personal responsibility for the loss. He could not bring himself to face the people that he had failed. Whose savings he had lost.

In Japan or ancient Rome he took the honorable way out..


Chivalry isn't dead...but he is.

ruf-porsche 12-24-2008 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawktel (Post 4378489)
It wasn't Madoff, but a money manager who invested in him.


And I don't think it was over his money. Believe it or not a lot of investment bankers take the clients money very seriously.


....and take and take and take until there is nothing left.

aigel 12-24-2008 04:57 PM

Nobody who is right in their head takes their own life. He must have gotten depressed. That's the only reason people kill themselves ...

George

speeder 12-24-2008 07:13 PM

The title of this thread is misleading and creates quite a disappointment once you open it.

the 12-24-2008 07:30 PM

Agree.

The headlines read "Madoff Investor Commits Suicide."

jeffgrant 12-24-2008 11:42 PM

A suicide note wasn't found.

And he lost over $1 Billion of his clients' cash.


Hmmmmm......

targa911S 12-25-2008 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabs (Post 4378612)
In Japan or ancient Rome he took the honorable way out..

The cowards way out. Takes more man to face his failures.

billyboy 12-25-2008 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by competentone (Post 4378682)
the honorable way in the u.s., if he felt responsible for the loss of his clients' money, would be for him to stay alive and keep working to try to earn money and pay his clients back.

+ 1000:d

Chocaholic 12-25-2008 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aigel (Post 4378747)
Nobody who is right in their head takes their own life. He must have gotten depressed. That's the only reason people kill themselves ...

George


Or, we're being too generous here. Very possible there was more to the story that may have come out in the Madoff trial. Perhaps this chap wasn't so honorable. Just didn't want to face the music if he was, in some way, on the take too.

I have very little faith in the morality of anyone who handles lots of OPM on Wallstreet.

ZOA NOM 12-25-2008 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffgrant (Post 4379116)
A suicide note wasn't found.

And he lost over $1 Billion of his clients' cash.


Hmmmmm......



+1

I wouldn't be prancing around the neighborhood if I was Madoff either. A jail cell might be the safest place for him. I think the body count has just begun.

Wickd89 12-25-2008 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts (Post 4378399)
Holy crap, just read the WSJ - I knew this guy. He was my Dad's boss for eight years. That sortof hits close to home...

-Wayne

Oh Well Wayne, there go all the stock tips you published....:D:D

Jim Garfield 12-25-2008 03:04 PM

I can't understand why Madoff isn't in jail without bail. If he's convicted he's going to be in jail for the rest of his life, he has untold millions sitting in Switzerland no doubt, he owns a jet that can make it to Urp nonstop. And it would probably be safer for him, as I'm sure there are a lot of formerly wealthy clients who would like to see him dead. Why not keep him locked up?

Dottore 12-25-2008 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Garfield (Post 4379724)
I can't understand why Madoff isn't in jail without bail. If he's convicted he's going to be in jail for the rest of his life, he has untold millions sitting in Switzerland no doubt, he owns a jet that can make it to Urp nonstop. And it would probably be safer for him, as I'm sure there are a lot of formerly wealthy clients who would like to see him dead. Why not keep him locked up?


The prosecution has to make the case why bail should be denied. They couldn't—or didn't—make that case. So the judge has to grant bail. He set it at $10 million—which reflects the gravity of the crime—but is of course still peanuts for Madoff.


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