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Sea Sick - CBC Sunday Night News - Video

Sea Sick - CBC Sunday Night News, Video
http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/2009/05/051709_1.html

If you have ever kept a fish tank and had to regulate the PH balance you will understand what is happening to our oceans right now.

Like that old Sci-Fi movie called Soylent Green, the plankton are dying, and along with it the ocean and every other breath of oxygen we take.

This is science, and not a political topic.

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This is science, and not a political topic.
How about religious?



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That's some real "trickle-up" ecology, man.
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People still watch See B.S. "news"???
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People still watch See B.S. "news"???
Not in Canada..
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I caught the last five minutes of an ABC climate crisis program last night. It looked at two paths our planet could go (through the life of Lucy), the current path and an alternate energy path.

The current path is not nice at all, guess I hope to die before the "big change" takes effect.
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I caught the last five minutes of an ABC climate crisis program last night. It looked at two paths our planet could go (through the life of Lucy), the current path and an alternate energy path.

The current path is not nice at all, guess I hope to die before the "big change" takes effect.
I think you've summarized this well. This is "science" designed to intentionally lead us to this conclusion. This is not reading the data and figuring out what it means, but designing experiments that reinforce the hypothesis. Much like man once thought he was at the center of the universe, he know thinks he is at the center of the ecosystem. To contest this "fact" is met with the same resistance now as 400 years ago by a similar established "authority".
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This is not reading the data and figuring out what it means, but designing experiments that reinforce the hypothesis.

THANK YOU. You understand this.

If you keep looking for problems you will find them, no matter what they are, and you can attribute them to what you want. It's inherent bias in the fact that there is a preconceived notion of what to look for before they started looking.
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This is science, and not a political topic.
"Science" my ass. It's as political as it gets.
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Don't worry, as we head into the next "Little Ice Age" somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 of the population of the world will die. The wars to control the resources that are left will be terrible. But starving people do not have time to play the morality games we do today.
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BAck when I was in the nuclear power plant building industry, the "news" channels used to run these hit pieces all the time. They would open with a mushroom cloud, then cut to a flyover of the cooling towers... at night ... very subtle, Tom Brokaw!!

Then for some reason, on one of the shows they showed a volcano erupting?!?!

The conclusion, proven by a solid, settled, consensus in the scientific community, was that nuclear power plants would blow up just like Hiroshima and Nagasaki and then cause volcanos to erupt. Still waiting for that explosion.

Oh, and Chernobly was a graphite pile reactor with no containment, so please spare me that comparison.
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Don't worry, as we head into the next "Little Ice Age" somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 of the population of the world will die. The wars to control the resources that are left will be terrible. But starving people do not have time to play the morality games we do today.
If a person of Anglo-Saxon heritage can adapt to hot and humid Houston - I think their is no limit to the adaptability of the rest of Homo Sapiens Sapiens.
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BAck when I was in the nuclear power plant building industry, the "news" channels used to run these hit pieces all the time...
The one proven technology that could drastically cut the use of fossil fuels (i.e CO2 pollution), and the greenies have yet to buy into it.

I would drive an electric car - if only to stick it to our foreign suppliers of oil.
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BAck when I was in the nuclear power plant building industry, the "news" channels used to run these hit pieces all the time. They would open with a mushroom cloud, then cut to a flyover of the cooling towers... at night ... very subtle, Tom Brokaw!!

Then for some reason, on one of the shows they showed a volcano erupting?!?!

The conclusion, proven by a solid, settled, consensus in the scientific community, was that nuclear power plants would blow up just like Hiroshima and Nagasaki and then cause volcanos to erupt. Still waiting for that explosion.

Oh, and Chernobly was a graphite pile reactor with no containment, so please spare me that comparison.
You mean they decided on a conclusion, then shaped a story to meet that conclusion, including only talking to "experts" who shared their conclusions?
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Yea, there was a whole strategy to it. The experts were always college professors with patches on their tweed jackets. Interviewed on-campus in a lab or surrounded by text books. The utility's side was always represented by some PR flack or VP, who they grilled under studio lights until the guy developed a nice flop sweat.

I'm still waiting for the explosion and China syndrome hole to the center of the earth.
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If a person of Anglo-Saxon heritage can adapt to hot and humid Houston - I think their is no limit to the adaptability of the rest of Homo Sapiens Sapiens.
The Homo Sapien adaptability to Houston (and most of the Gulf Coast) has more to do with the advent of modern air conditioning in buildings and cars than anything else.

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