I'm with you on that.

i agree that drugs tend to just be a temporary fix......but if you don't believe in counseling either, in what method do you have faith?

Baseball bat usually works for me...

yeah, but she's far too cute to beat with a bat....

i flip flop on the idea that fundamental change is even possible. so, my jury on that is out to lunch.

however, the method that i have faith in is self reflection and suffering. without the two of them, together, no one is going to change their behavior, including me.

drugs are temporary, as mentioned above.

counseling is just self reflection with someone else there to pollute the process with their own problems.

dave, you should check out the darwin thread. tons o fun happening there. and i do mean it when i wrote that i was disappointed. it kinda let me down re my fellow men.

pretty valid points.....as long as the meds stay around and the baseball bats stay at walmart though, I'm thinking I'm goin for it....

I sure am glad I don't have these problems.

You guys were busy!!! I had to leave mid afternoon and it's grown by about 5 pages. :D

I don't either. I assume you use an aluminum bat as well. They tend to hold up much better that the wood ones. SmileWavy

Drama is the spice of life and crazy women fuch the best.....I dunno, time for a smoke...

Actually I've got both.

a baseball bat and a red head? I'd say you should consider separating them...

is anyone else having odd stuff going on using the pelican forum?

You know, I was in Catholic school since Kindergarten. Once I got to that point in school they taught evolution straight off the bat. That is how it happened. God made sure everything happened but that was how things went. Gradual change. We came from monkeys, then a soul was put in, etc.

Odd that some should disregard science like that. If all the evidence is not enough for them, nothing will be.

D, AB is like OJU. Both leave you wondering as to WTF they are talking about. They both can break babblefish.

there is enough drama in life without seeking it out.

Which bat? :cool:

No, a wood bat and an Aluminum bat. Though I might like the red head too. I would need pics to decide.

i get the OJU, and i think he is hilarious, even if i don't always agree with him.

AB just comes off as drunk. really really drunk.