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widebody911 07-11-2010 11:03 AM

Quick interior paint question
 
So, my g/f is moving in next month, and in preparation for that, we're cleaning up my house, doing some re-decorating, etc. She spent a good part of Thursday and Friday painting my kitchen, but when she went to remove the masking tape today, she made a horrific discovery: the masking tape was removing the paint! Long story short, she painted a semi-gloss over a full-gloss without any prep, and the new paint isn't sticking to the old stuff, and if you so much as look at it sideways, it peels right off.

What's the best way to recover from this?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1278871378.jpg

speeder 07-11-2010 11:07 AM

I'd give her a spanking and just move on with life. :)

Seriously, and this is from a professional POV, you're fked.

porsche4life 07-11-2010 11:28 AM

I'd say you gotta sand all that shiz off.... Grabbing a sanding pole and have fun buddy....

gr8fl4porsche 07-11-2010 11:47 AM

There really is no good way to remove a room full of fresh paint so I would touch up the peeling areas and then do nothing.

Wait a couple of weeks for the paint to cure and see if adhesion is improved. A couple of days is too soon to tell if you have a huge mess on your hands.

repp 07-11-2010 12:23 PM

send the girlfriend to the store for a six pack of your favorite beverage and a roll of good duct tape sit back as she (in lingerie) uses the duct tape to remove the new paint. sit back and enjoy the beverage.
ps tell a joke every couple of minutes

nota 07-11-2010 01:26 PM

well it should scrap off eazyer RIGHT NOW
but I would NOT SAND IT now or later
a good paint remover can help get sheets rather then bits

surface prep is the key esp in a greasy place like a kitchen
then sand or use a stickie prep coat or both

Porsche-O-Phile 07-11-2010 02:26 PM

Geezus H. Christ.

Sand it and start over.

And for God's sake, try a color other than white. Good lord, looking at the picture makes me feel like I'm in a mental institution.

DanielDudley 07-11-2010 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 5449218)
Geezus H. Christ.

Sand it and start over.

And for God's sake, try a color other than white. Good lord, looking at the picture makes me feel like I'm in a mental institution.

Well, this is OT, so you are right next door...

ramonesfreak 07-11-2010 04:09 PM

get an edging blade and touch up the bad spots and forget about it or else go insane

porsche4life 07-11-2010 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by repp (Post 5449046)
send the girlfriend to the store for a six pack of your favorite beverage and a roll of good duct tape sit back as she (in lingerie) uses the duct tape to remove the new paint. sit back and enjoy the beverage.
ps tell a joke every couple of minutes

I like this idea....


Or.... Is she one of those weird people that likes peeling sunburns? This is like a REALLY HUGE sunburn...

Zeke 07-11-2010 04:36 PM

Sanding is useless. If it peels, peel it. Then scuff the surface and get a good primer on there. Repair around edges of paint that did stick with drywall compound and reprime the repairs.

All of us professional painters do a full prime these days on just about every surface before the finish coat. Acrylic over oil won't work unless you prime.

speeder 07-11-2010 05:21 PM

If she wasn't so cute, I'd say trade 'er in.

bell 07-11-2010 05:57 PM

Sounds like it's time for some 70's wood paneling and a disco ball LOL

widebody911 07-11-2010 06:48 PM

It's not white - it's "sage" - a faint green.

Thanks for all of the suggestions; I've already peeled a great deal of it with a wide putty knife.

Zeke 07-11-2010 06:49 PM

You're off to a great start. :D

vash 07-11-2010 09:48 PM

next time take the paint off when everything is still wet.

speeder 07-11-2010 10:23 PM

Where's the fun in that.

island911 07-11-2010 10:26 PM

Moving in AND painting the place? . .. Wow! ..and aren't you afraid she'll find the hidden cameras?

m21sniper 07-11-2010 11:23 PM

I just had a couple buddies over for a paint party tonight. :)

rnln 07-11-2010 11:26 PM

oh wow, look like you just saved me from doing the same thing. I plan to paint my whole house with one stage, paint with primer ready, from either homedpot or dun-edward. I do notice some area in my house has very shinny surface. I assume it's either gloss or semi-gloss.
Now question is, do I really need to sand the wall first and a coat of primer, or either one of the two is fine?
Thanks.

m21sniper 07-11-2010 11:34 PM

I'm going 2 coats white primer and then 2 coats semi-gloss in my upper floors. Or rather i should say, i'm directing my friends in applying it for me. :-P

Zeke 07-12-2010 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rnln (Post 5449967)
oh wow, look like you just saved me from doing the same thing. I plan to paint my whole house with one stage, paint with primer ready, from either homedpot or dun-edward. I do notice some area in my house has very shinny surface. I assume it's either gloss or semi-gloss.
Now question is, do I really need to sand the wall first and a coat of primer, or either one of the two is fine?
Thanks.

Wash it with TSP and prime. The DE better primer will stick to anything. I've never seen anything like it. It won't come off your hands. Wear gloves if you're not super neat. I sand to knock off little nibs and such. I use a pole sander on everything flat. Then the wash.


Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5449973)
I'm going 2 coats white primer and then 2 coats semi-gloss in my upper floors. Or rather i should say, i'm directing my friends in applying it for me. :-P

Too much paint.

The Gaijin 07-12-2010 09:23 AM

Yes, Milt is the Man. Preparation is everything. Sand, wash, prime, paint.. Nothing worse than painted over schmutz..

As for tape - it is over-rated.

Get a good quality 2" brush and only dip it into the paint. The knock off (not wipe) the excess...

Then hold almost perpendicular to the wall and as you apply pressure the bristles will splay out and you can cut into any ceiling or around any trim..

Cut in the corners, ceiling and trim and then roll away. And when you do roll - DO NOT re-roll over it as it begins to dry.. Patience is key.

m21sniper 07-12-2010 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milt (Post 5450351)
Too much paint.

I'm hoping it's enough.

rnln 07-12-2010 10:09 AM

Thanks Milt. So I must wash it with TSP, primer, then semi gloss paint. There is no way I can cheat with 1 layer of paint which already has primer from Homedepot?

Quote:

Originally Posted by milt (Post 5450351)
Wash it with TSP and prime. The DE better primer will stick to anything. I've never seen anything like it. It won't come off your hands. Wear gloves if you're not super neat. I sand to knock off little nibs and such. I use a pole sander on everything flat. Then the wash.



Too much paint.


widebody911 07-12-2010 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gaijin (Post 5450403)
Yes, Milt is the Man. Preparation is everything. Sand, wash, prime, paint..

No; The Man wishes he was Milt.

gr8fl4porsche 07-12-2010 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rnln (Post 5450486)
Thanks Milt. So I must wash it with TSP, primer, then semi gloss paint. There is no way I can cheat with 1 layer of paint which already has primer from Homedepot?

Primer is only required to seal up stains, adhere to glossy surfaces or prepare porous material like new drywall and patching compounds.

If you have existing gloss walls, primer is a good idea.
If you have flat or satin walls, no primer is required.
Just make sure you have a clean and properly prepared surface.

It's strange that some folks are mentioning semi-gloss paint. I wouldn't use semi-gloss for anything in a house except doors and trim.

Typically walls and ceilings in a house are flat finish (matte is also common).
A satin finish can be used in kitchens and baths to aid in cleaning and moisture resistance.

swang 07-12-2010 12:41 PM

that is Paint?

She has a ssiter who is not red headed?

I think I have been to dinner with the sisters and did she have a purse like pirate pictures? Of leather and medal. With zippers.

yes
-s

rnln 07-14-2010 12:12 AM

thanks guys. This is a bad news :(. I was hoping I only have to do one coat. Now look like I have to do at least 3 coats in some area: TSP, prime, and paint.

rnln 08-02-2010 10:14 AM

Milt, Randy,

Here is my plan,
- repair damage with plaster repair
- sand
- TSP
- spray prime
- spray color next day.
- Another day, another color coat.

Now I have another question on taping around windows and objects. Do I have to take tapes off after every coat or I can leave it until I finish all the coats. Will I have the problem the original poster had if I wait to the next day?

RWebb 08-02-2010 11:28 AM

milt would know for sure, but I leave the blue tape on for days sometimes on my PNW house/climate

3M is the best & invented it - they also make a green tape that is even more "bluey" than the blue

run your finger along the edge & press down to make a better line


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